Bucheimer and Bucheimer-Clark holster fit charts - 1953-1975 & later

[rem.44]

Here is mine !
It carried my duty 3" S&W mod 13 for more than ten years, before we changed for the SIG PRO 2022 in 9 mm .
I really appreciated the extreme quality of the leather, and it allowed a very fast draw !
And I even wonder if it was not designed for a crossdraw either ...

I don't know the name of model, but the reference stamped at the rear side is : B6 - H3.
Have an idea about it ?

 

[Ranxerox]

Here we go again...

...I stumbled upon two of there things here:

they are approx. 4 x 2,5", look like mag pouches for 45 ACP but seem to me to be a bit too short...anyone know better? I'd appreciate

 

[ramprat]

...I stumbled upon two of there things here:

they are approx. 4 x 2,5", look like mag pouches for 45 ACP but seem to me to be a bit too short...anyone know better? I'd appreciate

Standard USAF issue dump pouches for .38 Special Ball ammunition. USAF Security Police were once armed with S&W Model 15 revolvers as standard issue.
Gary

 

[Ranxerox]

Standard USAF issue dump pouches for .38 Special Ball ammunition. USAF Security Police were once armed with S&W Model 15 revolvers as standard issue.
Gary

Thanks!

 

[majick47]

Bucheimer Sig Holster?

Thank you, I somehow smelled I had to do with something kinda weird

It actually comes from a stock I bought from a retired German officer, I could have asked him but I lost contact.

And yes, the snap at the top does match either way. Definitely not intended as a shoulder holster though.

Looks very much like the brown leather W German police Sig P-6 shoulder holsters without the shoulder harness and strap. Possible submission for holster trials by Bucheimer? Could swear I saw a Bucheimer Sig P-220 holster on auction site some time ago.

 

[Ranxerox]

Hi guys, here I am again, with another question the ctrl+f could't answer: anyone knows what this is

?

 

[jburton]

Bucheimer Clark Shoulder Holster Questions?

Around 1982 I purchased a Bucheimer Clarke Should Holster model 15E-16. I purchased it for a S & W 357 Magnum. The holster is clearly marked 15E-16, but I cannot find any information, including this and other forums, that have this model number. Specifically, I am wondering what the E indicates? I found some lists that included an F in the model number. I appreciate any information you can provide. Thanks in advance.

 

[Dave Baird]

I too can't find a code for a B/C 18-11. Can anyone tell me what gun it is for?
Thank you!!!!
Dave

 

[crazyphil]

Dave Baird - Take a look at -db- post #13 on page 1. According to his
logic, which I have always found to be right on, your BC 18-11 should
fit a 2" S&W Chief Special or Terrier.

 

[Dave Baird]

Thank you. So, we just look at the second set of numbers? I see now, said blind Bartemaus! Who would have thunk it!!

 

[crazyphil]

Dave Baird - Not necessarily. In that particular series of numbers that
I mentioned, it may be right. And -db- is almost always right. But that
doesn't mean the same logic applies to all of BC's fit numbers.

 

[SG-688]

E for .....effort??

Around 1982 I purchased a Bucheimer Clarke Should Holster model 15E-16. I purchased it for a S & W 357 Magnum. The holster is clearly marked 15E-16, but I cannot find any information, including this and other forums, that have this model number. Specifically, I am wondering what the E indicates? I found some lists that included an F in the model number. I appreciate any information you can provide. Thanks in advance.

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UPDATE: My last guess was the correct one. E for elastic strap.
Circa 1980, the now "Series 15" shoulder holster has a web non-elastic strap while the "Series 15E" shoulder holster has an elastic strap.

A new to us 1980 catalog has the term "series" attached to each holster model. Still learning.

That doesn't solve the mystery for the E on the German police holster unless it was originally accompanied by some sort of elastic strap.

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Another "Don't know" answer. I even asked the Boss. Poster's holster is not the first E marked model 15 shoulder holster observed. Note also post 126 with the possible German police holster has an E suffix.

Letters are used to features such as color [B, R], finish [W, F], lining [L] or left handed [LH]. But what could E indicate? Anybody have later catalogs than the rest of us??

The E might be something special in the Bucheimer-Clark holsters that have turned up post 1980 when B-C was thought to have ended operations.
Ads for a Texas police equipment company using the B-C name with the C inside the B logo - like a scope recticle - have turned up leading to a question of whether that company made/sold B-C holsters. That's on top of the Clark, Anaheim, Thompson-Clark and Clark, Cochella enigma's.

One wild guess building on the German police holster is that the E might stand for Europe = production intended for the overseas market. But why bother with a marking for that unless perhaps signifying compliance with some Byzantine regulation?

Other guesses: E might stand for an economy model or E for an optional elastic off-side strap rather than the standard nylon web or leather multi-piece contraption.

I hope that clears everything up.....

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On the first page, I added more to explain JMB and B-C holster marking systems.

 

[SG-688]

Buc-Hide

From the 1976 catalog, as with S&W Wessonhide, Bucheimer's version of synthetic leather ---

Buc-Hide.

A man-made material — will not crack, peel,
scuff, mildew or become stiff or brittle at low
temperatures. All BUC-HIDE products are made
for 1 3/4" belt.

Brown BUC-HIDE is backed with sueded strap leather.
Also available in black.
For Black, place "B" in front of Model Number.

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The two digit code (after the dash for each item) follows the standard Bucheimer system. 11 = Chief Special, etc.

Added a PDF of the same page for legibility.
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[Ranxerox]

Hi everybody!

A couple of days ago I stumbled upon a Holster with codes I could not find by means of the usual search, it's this

under the number "42" in the first page of this thread I found a Clark allegedly made between 1962 and 1975, designed for Colt Agent, Detective Special and Cobra which seems plausible to me because the snubby on the pictures hangs a little loose in it.
What puzzles me and I could not find out is the meaning of the first three digits "138".

Also the designation "Defender" is not to be found...anyone knows more?

 

[SG-688]

138 is the model number of the Defender straight draw, thumb snap holster. In the 1975 catalog it's 138A for some reason.

The crossdraw version is 137.

Catalog page attached.

Mike Priwer has generously posted the catalog in an album.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/members...k-leather.html


My BC Sheriff marked 11 for Chief Special is way too large for a Chief and is about Colt size. Mismarked probably in this case. Often holsters have stretched over the years from use or have been intentionally fit to another handgun.

 

[turnerriver]

Herculean efforts to make esoteric information available to all of us.
This forum provides that and much more.
Thanks and regards,

 

[Ranxerox]

Herculean efforts to make esoteric information available to all of us.
This forum provides that and much more.
Thanks and regards,

I noticed, Thanks from my side, too

 

[SG-688]

Bucheimer 1976 - more pages

More pages from the 1976 Bucheimer catalog.

The BT and Deluxe lines appear to indicate an effort to produce a higher quality tier, perhaps to replace the nicer holsters from Bucheimer-Clark that would soon end.

Since late Clark & Thompson holsters have been found with BT markings, it seems a fair guess that the BT line stands for Bucheimer Thompson. The Sam Brown holsters have the curved line at the ejector rod previously thought unique to Thompson. (I know, we're only 45 years late to the party, but it's new to us.)

The BT holster in the catalog is the same as the BTW holster in the 1976 ad previously posted on page 3.

And then, Deluxe means ...deluxe. Prices, if we had them, would be a further indicator.

The model 3 is another thumb snap holster with a paddle variation with the 400 and 500 being spring-post holsters for auto pistols.

The only shoulder holsters in 1976 are an upside-down and a 1930's style vertical notable for repeating the 500 model number.

The model 15 forward rake Estes holster is surely named for Captain E.W. Estes who wrote a well known report advocating the adoption of the Colt .45 Auto for police. Recommended by Jeff Cooper, it is similar to holsters from Safariland, Bianchi, and by TripleK, the Elden Carl model.

I have made revisions & additions to several posts and to the master fit code list on the first page.

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[SG-688]

Bucheimer - Clark, LA 15-74

Here's a holster some questioned was actually made - the classic B-C model 15 shoulder holster for an auto pistol - in this case fit code 74 for the Colt Commander pistol.

The LA mark preceded Valencia, indicating early production.

At the time I took the pictures, the only issue was the fit of the holster, so I didn't take a picture of the marking. -- added picture --

The fit is not good, and would be better if the sewn section fit under the slide instead of on top of the slide. The strongest point of contact is on the grips.

The screw does its job of adjusting the clamping force of the spring - but interferes with the pistol. It was darn difficult the get the pistol into the holster. Better probably on a revolver or perhaps when worn. The rest of the harness is missing, so couldn't test that.

The holster body is sewn to the harness rather than laced as on later versions.

 

[GEARHEAD4EVER]

BUCHEIMER CLARK SHOULDER HOLSTER

I have inherited a BUCHEIMER CLARK shoulder holster and despite my best efforts can't match the numbers stamped on it with any in the listed catalogues. It says 15-85. It also is LH. Any help with interpretation and as to what model fun this fits would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance.