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How things have changed. I have always done my banking with the local small town bank. It was small town, but not a small bank. Their assets, loans, deposits, etc. rivaled those of banks in bigger cities.

1965. I was a junior in HS. I had acquired paper routes of three news papers, Macon, Columbus, and Atlanta in our town. Two brothers, friends of mine, had been doing it on a bicycle and a car. I was going to do it by myself. My Mother went with me to the bank to sign with me. The bank president, with whom we were on first name basis, said, "He's big enough that he won't have any trouble collecting," and loaned the $1500 or so for the '64 VW with a sunroof.

About 1975 or 76. We were farming several hundred acres of peanuts, soybeans, peaches, and vegetables.I went to the bank in January and talked to Johnny, the same bank president. I told him we needed a $60K line of credit for seed, fertilizer, etc. He said, fine, he would take care of it, and just let them know when I needed to draw. Late March, I went to the bank on Monday morning and told the lady who was a vp that I needed to write a check for about $20K for peanut seed and fertilizer. I told her about my conversation with Johnny. She pulled my file, and said there was nothing about a line there. She said Johnny was leaving that morning for 3 days in Atlanta, and would probably not come by the bank. About that time, Johnny walked in the door. She told him the situation and he nodded and said, "Yeah, cover his check. Hell, Mark wouldn't lie about something like that!"

There were several more incidents like that, where my brother and I needed a fair size chunk of money within 24-48 hours, and we could always count on the bank to cover us. Then, things began to change.

The local owners sold the bank. It was Wachovia for a while, then BB&T. My last land transaction with them was the purchase of about a 19 acre tract in 2006, adjoining my wife's inherited farm. I think I borrowed $35K, and things went smoothly. Since then, there were some minor indicators of change. The local people had less and less authority to complete even seemingly small transactions. Meanwhile, BB&T became Truist.

I paid off the 19 acre tract in five years. Early this year, I decided I might want te expand my small cow herd, and was doing some maintenance work on the property. I called the bank officer I deal with and told her I wanted to set up a $20K line of credit, and use the 19 acres as collateral. It is a beautiful tract, in fenced and cross fenced pasture, with a ten acre stand of "plantation cut" pines. The bank has all the necessary paperwork on file. She informed me that the bank no longer makes loans on "unimproved" real estate, obviously meaning without a residential or commercial structure of some kind. This in what is still a mostly rural community. She helped me with a promotional credit card, with a $15K limit, and 0% interest for 12 months. Better than nothing, but aggravating, and limited in usefulness.

I guess the days of the locally owned, friendly small town bank are gone.

Some pictures of the property they won't loan money on.
 

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I miss the true small town banks.. I took care of my aunt's estate in my mom's home town 3 hours away... we visited monthly while growing up an I usually spent 2 weeks there during the summer on grandma's farm... it took a phone call to take care of anything... can't imagine that is even legal at this point... most transactions were way over 600 dollars.. lol
 
Morning Mark...I always enjoy reading your posts.

Your story makes me feel a little homesick remembering similar stories.

Reposting your pics below.

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Under the Obama Admin. it became too easy to bank. You could get Fed money and buy T-Bills and make 2% without dealing with the filthy little people! My dad had built a large chunk of our city while dealing with one National Bank and one S&L. My brother and I dealt with the same banks. Under the easy rules the lazy bankers "Called" all our lines of credit, every last one. We had CD's and reserves to cover, but it hurt our business! A year later the same idiot is trying to get us to open a new line with his branch! My brother sat in his office, used his desk phone to call the bank's president's personal cell phone and explain the situation! He was gone within a week, there were 5 or 6 FDIC regulations he was guilty of! Plus, just plain bad business practices!!!

There is a small town bank we use now. Yes all the T's get crossed but the way business gets done is really with a handshake! The signatures take care of the rules. But to look a bank president in the eye and shake his hand, that is real business. (Of course, 49 years of track record helps, oh, and assets help too! Lots of assets!)

Ivan
 
I don't know when the tipping point came, but banks have become very, very reluctant, if not down right hostile, to loan money on bare land. The only value they see is in whatever might be built on it.
 
Ag Banking

Check with your local Farm Credit Services office. They loan money for Ag related operations and land purchases through the Production Credit Association for operating lines of credit, production/equipment loans and the Federal Land Bank Association for land purchases for Agriculture related entities. They are Federally Chartered and get their funding through the sale of Farm Credit Bonds on Wall Street. Their loans are available for Ag producers (farmers), Cooperatives, and Ag Land owners along with Telco's, Mining Operators, Fisheries and Rural Electric Cooperatives. There may be more that are eligible to do business with them that I'm not aware of, so check with your local office.

Google Farm Credit Services for information on your local offices in your state.

Hope this helps.

Pete99004

I forgot to mention Timber growers/processors are also eligible to do business with FCS
 
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OP - you could take Kenna's cash, but I'm afeared he wants the Deed.
Have you asked your Banker do you still have lines of credit?
If they say Yeah!
Ask them , then what are you willing to take for collateral?
Apparently vacant land is a no-no.
Or for some reason is it just this land?
So what is a Yes-Yes?
What assets will you accept?
 
Try the local land banks. That is what they do.
Now it seems every bank has to go through Birmingham to get authority to change the toilet paper. We have a strong local bank that probably won't be sold until after I die so I'm not too worried but gone are the days of a handshake and fill out the paperwork when we get time.
Hell I can't begin to remember the number of blank forms I signed on loans that would be filled in later!
Tis but a time of the signs!
 
Back before the turn of the century,
My banker and I were friends.
A lot business was done with a handshake
and a hand written promise note.

That bank I started with over fifty years ago
has changed hands three times. I don't know a soul there now

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Started at the Ga. Bank, Macon, GA. Moved to the Hibernia Nat. Bank in N.O., LA when I started my masters degree. Graduated and moved to rural south GA. For the next 40 years I banked at whatever "peanut bank" was in town. Always had very good results. Currently at Synovus. Excellent bank. Tellers know me by name! Wonder of wonders! Certainly not a peanut bank. Offers far more that better fits our needs. Don't have to take time to go make a deposit, etc. Very simple to move money as needed. If this is modern banking, I'm all for it. Sincerely. bruce.
 
I've always used locally owned banks.

The last one in this area was sold to a large bank group.

It's unfortunate I no longer have access to a locally owned bank. I fondly recall the days I could accomplish my banking needs and those of my clients with a phone call. Not now.
 
Opened checking and savings with local town bank in 03 when I bought property to build a house. Acting as general contractor I was in and out of bank often and everyone new me by my first name. My rough framer couldn't pay his crew nearing the end. He asked if I could pay him a week early. Reluctantly I did because I didn't want them to walk off job. I went to bank and withdraw $6k no questions asked. That bank has since been taken over by a larger but still local bank. I don't know anyone there and faces change often. They have no interest in getting to know you. I went to make a $7k deposit this past summer. Money was all hundreds with bands on them (7 stacks of 10). Teller asked me where the money came from. I said why. She said she didn't recognize the bands. I said oh well I guess they're all different. Again she says yes but where did it come from. I said I don't know where it originated but most recently it came from my underwear drawer , if that's a problem I'll deposit it somewhere else. She just glared at me and finished transaction.
 
I'm with one of the few remaining locally owned banks in our area. Most have long since sold out. This one is smallish with, I think, 7 branches. I've been with them for over 20 years. Knew the founder, but he's no longer with us. Don't really know anyone there now as I rarely visit in person. I make 99.9% of my payments electronically.

Deposits are direct except for the occasional check which I deposit by taking pictures of it with my phone. All utilities except water bill are on auto pay. City doesn't offer that, unfortunately. Credit cards are set to auto pay the full balance every month.
 
I am one lucky guy as far as banks. I am with my local bank and they will never be consumed by the big guys. Money is there when I need it. Lucky that Great Grandfather was one of the founders in 1910, even if the heirs sold his interest when he died in 1922. The president for 35 years was also a great grandson of the same guy and he gave me a job in '71 which I only stayed for 2 months. His son is now president, I own a few shares of stock and we keep expanding, buying out the little guys. It is nice to say I need money, here is the farm for the mortgage and they say, do you want a deposit or a check. Nothing beats a local bank where they know your name and you are more that just an account number.
 
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