Factory 357 mag brass incorrect OAL

[ArchAngelCD]

I'm not "outraged". And I'm not sure anybody else is either? I like Hornady products, and I'll continue to use them I'm sure. I just feel they should not mark the brass 357 Mag if it's not really 357 Mag.
That's all

You keep saying it isn't a .357 Magnum but it is!

For the 100th time, the length difference is so little it's not a big deal at all. You are making a mountain out of a small hill. The difference is only 5/100", that's 0.05" and that's not a lot.

I said it above but I'll say it again, when you buy new Hornady .357 Magnum brass it is the same exact length as all the others. Only the brass from fired factory Leverevolition ammo is 0.05" shorter that the standard trim to length.

 

[Sevens]

For the 100th time, the length difference is so little it's not a big deal at all. You are making a mountain out of a small hill. The difference is only 5/100", that's 0.05" and that's not a lot.

The issue here is that this difference means your crimp setting means zero crimp will be applied to your loaded round every time one of these silly, non-SAAMI compliant cartridge cases gets mixed in within any .357 Magnum brass scattered across this planet over the last 3/4 of a century or whenever it was that .357 Magnum settled on a small primer pocket from the original LP size it debuted with in 1935.

It's not about pressure or even COAL, it's about every guy throwing a lever that intends to crimp his loaded round but MISSED because the case mouth is not reaching the inside part of the die where it is adjusted perfectly for 99.98% of all the brass that has ever existed in .357 Magnum.

It's been pointed out multiple times and it seems to be ignored. If this difference is a non-issue for anyone who reads this discussion... I cannot figure out why they want to be a part of this discussion.

 

[STORMINORMAN]

Depends upon the design of the bullet and the expected extent of the crimp, doesn't it...?

Cheers!

 

[Sevens]

No it doesn't. If you are applying a standard roll crimp, your die will be set to apply the roll crimp at the case mouth. If you are working with all SAAMI-compliant brass except one or two pieces of this stuff... on these cases the case mouth will not be there because it was cut off and is laying on the floor of the Hornady plant.

You will apply no crimp to those pieces.

 

[STORMINORMAN]

And if is not a "standard roll crimp" one desires...?

And if there is no can or crimp groove...?

Or, if there is a very deep crimp groove...?

Or, if one is using a LEE FCD, OR their collet style crimp die...?

I think it does depend...

Cheers!

 

[Paul in Nevada]

Hornady isn't going to stop making this brass just because a few of you don't like it. Adapt, or find a different hobby. Trim and sort all your once fired or range pick up 357 brass. You only have to do it once.

 

[DeplorabusUnum]

I must just be unlucky. I NEVER find discarded .357 cases in my range pick-up.

 

[Miracle Man]

Hornady isn't going to stop making this brass just because a few of you don't like it. Adapt, or find a different hobby. Trim and sort all your once fired or range pick up 357 brass. You only have to do it once.

I went through all my 357 mag brass and found 5 Hornady 357 mag "short". They're out of my 357 coffee can. LOL

It's not that big of a deal to me. I'll use them for something, sometime.

 

[Miracle Man]

I must just be unlucky. I NEVER find discarded .357 cases in my range pick-up.

Revolver brass isn't discarded at anywhere near the rate of semi-auto. And I call some of my brass range pickup but that just code for picking it up in somebodies back yard where I shoot.

I've had a lot of brass given to me by my shooting buddies who don't reload. I'm sure that's where this came from.

I'm going back to sorting brass for 357 and 44 mag especially for top end loads.

Starline it is for me. The "range pickups" will be for plinking loads on the mild side.

 

[Paul in Nevada]

Revolver brass isn't discarded at anywhere near the rate of semi-auto...

We have a few popular shooting spots out in the desert. After awhile you will recognize some of the usual "brass buzzards" who drive around looking for cases. Just like old gold prospectors some of them are friendly and happy to chat while of them some slink around, giving you the evil eye if they see you picking up brass.
I was driving out to a shooting spot one day and I saw this old timer off the road down in a dry gulch waving his hand at me like he just found a gold nugget. I stopped and asked, any luck? And he yells back, "Whole pile of 38's and 357's! You don't see that very often!"