Another reason to be anti-EV

I don't get the advantage of the plug-in hybrid over the regular hybrid. Bet it isn't range. Maybe MPG?

I think I read an article somewhere on ICE vs EV vs plug-in hybrid vs hybrid, and the advantages and disadvantages of each, but darned if I recall what it said...

Plug in eligible the tax rebates. Plug in, under $80k MSRP, several other stipulations.

'18 Volt here (plug in hybrid) and '23 Lightning Lariat ER.
 
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Having owned six cars with manual transmissions earlier in my life, I never had a manipulation problem with any of them. A different story with my wife. Anyone remember that fluid drive system Chrysler had back in the 1940s-50s? You could shift or not shift gears as you pleased. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but I never owned one. Chrysler’s Fluid Drive | '56 Packard Man
 
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I've told people the same thing for decades about coal; one day I believe they'll say, "ya know, they used to burn this stuff !?!?"
Lot's of spin-off products (plastics, solvents, medicines, etc.) can be derived from coal. Probably still have it buried in a drawer some place but I used to have an interesting 'tree' drawing showing myriads of products/uses for coal other than fuel or steel production . . . :cool:

My thought: If the doomers are correct and the oil is running out, why are we trying to increase our own production? We should be buying from everyone else while it is cheap and save ours for when it becomes expensive.
 
My Jaguar XJ6 required special tires because of the weight. I guess it isn't that unusual

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Jaguar XJ6 weighs between 3,891 to 4,156 lbs. A Tesla X weighs 5,185 to 5,390 lbs. and that is over a half-ton more!!! That is the same weight as a Ford F150 and just look at the size of pickup tires.
 
Manual transmissions are fun on a sporty vehicle...until you hit rush hour traffic or until your knee starts hurting from working the clutch. I would like to have one but I'd want to be able to press a button to put it in "full automatic transmission mode" when I got lazy.

I took my 2013 VW Golf R in for its 210,000 mile oil change yesterday. I drive it almost every day in stop-and-go traffic, and never once have I wished for an automatic transmission...different strokes for different folks, I guess. (And...it still has the original clutch. :) )
 

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My favorite stick shift car was a '67 VW Beetle. A pure fun car to drive. If replacing the muffler about every 25K miles and having no AC didn't bother you.

In my misspent youth I owned -- or was owned by -- seven British sports cars at various times, all four-speeds of course. Three of them were MG Midgets, and they were truly challenging to drive.

First gear in the Midgets (up to the 1974 models) was non-synchronized, with straight-cut gears. You had to be at an absolute, complete, total dead stop to engage first, and when you accelerated in first, the whining noise was unmistakable...I can remember it to this day.

But man, were they fun to drive! It was like wheeling around in a roller skate... :)
 
I used to teach driving on a Diesel Landrover back in the UK around 1957-8 (for the Civil Defence Corp). Lorries (read trucks in US-English) were also part of the fun, In all you learned to "double declutch" as not synchronized gears. I still enjoy my 2013 Miata with 6 on the floor and AC when necessary. Only 24K miles on it and used on good weather days. Worst US car I ever has was an Olds Starfire with manual shift. Went through 5 clutches in 45K miles because Olds in their second year of selling it put a 6" clutch plate for a 6 cyl engine. The first year used a 10" clutch and the engineers then went to work for Boeing designing and building 737s! Had to point out to the Olds sales reps that I had put over 200K miles on a VW bug with manual and same clutch for all the miles. Dave_n
 
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In my misspent youth I owned -- or was owned by -- seven British sports cars at various times, all four-speeds of course. Three of them were MG Midgets, and they were truly challenging to drive.



First gear in the Midgets (up to the 1974 models) was non-synchronized, with straight-cut gears. You had to be at an absolute, complete, total dead stop to engage first, and when you accelerated in first, the whining noise was unmistakable...I can remember it to this day.



But man, were they fun to drive! It was like wheeling around in a roller skate... :)
Got my TD on a pretty steep hill once...would not pull the hill in second. Stopped dead, shifted to first, and had on hell of a time getting those 50 horses to pull that hill

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After seeing all the dead battery powered vehicles due to cold weather...
After learning that it doesn't take much, like a minor collision to total a battery powered vehicle....
After seeing how some turn into mobile crematoriums...
After seeing how much I'd have to spend to put a charging system in my house...
No one seems to know how many charging cycles the battery can take before it turns unless...
Yeah, no.
 
A recurring nightmare for me is that we wake up decades from now and realize that oil was way too valuable to “BURN”. Thinking about pharmaceuticals, engineering polymers, etc. Just another side of the thin pancake. Remember, I’m a Ford engine engineer that is very knowledgeable about spark ignition combustion engines and a hot rod nut.

Oil is created in the magma surface of the earth's crust...IT will never run out or be extingushed(sp?)......No fossils in oil.....NO, Nada....Not any......So crude oil will still be here long after we are gone.
 
Oil is created in the magma surface of the earth's crust...IT will never run out or be extingushed(sp?)......No fossils in oil.....NO, Nada....Not any......So crude oil will still be here long after we are gone.

So much fail, I don't know where to begin.
 
Interesting that so many EV necessities-tires, e.g-must be EV specific. A rule for me is to avoid anything that is too proprietary.
 
Before retirement I was checking out various vehicles as possible retirement rides. Ran across an Edmonds long term test of a Tesla. The only thing that stuck in my mind was that they had premature excessive wear on the rear tires. So, they took it back to a Tesla service/sales center who figured out the problem was incorrect rear wheel alignment from the factory. They corrected the alignment and advised the tires needed replaced. AT $800 EACH! A phone call to Tesla HQ and they generously ate the cost. Apparently crafted for low rolling resistance.

While I expect for short trip type things any tires that'll take the weight would do, if ecars would be your daily driver you might want to stick with the premium rubber.
 
In my misspent youth I owned -- or was owned by -- seven British sports cars at various times, all four-speeds of course. Three of them were MG Midgets, and they were truly challenging to drive.

First gear in the Midgets (up to the 1974 models) was non-synchronized, with straight-cut gears. You had to be at an absolute, complete, total dead stop to engage first, and when you accelerated in first, the whining noise was unmistakable...I can remember it to this day.

But man, were they fun to drive! It was like wheeling around in a roller skate... :)

I earned a lot of things in my misspent youth. One big one was to drive the standard transmission of the era. That was a none synchronized first gear, 3 on the tree, I was about 13 YO and found out how to double clutch. That made cruising in to stops or traffic lights much better than lugging away in 2ed gear. I also drove some of the sticks on as was known then the foreign cars that were showing up here!

Knowing how to drive a none syncro has come in handy for me a few times. One was the last 3 weeks before I had to go in for my first left knee surgery. It was hard to do and hurt to shift gears and knowing how to balance revs against road speed and shift without using the clutch. (large commercial trucks) Of course the clutch was needed for engaging first or reverse!

Now knowledge like that is considered black magic by the people of today.
 
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Manual transmissions are fun on a sporty vehicle...until you hit rush hour traffic or until your knee starts hurting from working the clutch. I would like to have one but I'd want to be able to press a button to put it in "full automatic transmission mode" when I got lazy.

I hear this a lot from people without any experience with manuals. The thing is, your subconscious takes over and you don't always think of gear changes. Just like turn signals. For those of us that use them (!) it doesn't take thought, it just happens. Manual transmissions are much the same. Just hang back a little so you're not shifting so much. I've owned far more manuals than autos and vastly prefer them to an auto-magic box that tries to think for me.
 
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