That Will Leave a Mark

[biku324]

Ukraine destroyed a TU22M3 'Backfire' strategic bomber that had just fired a a missile at Ukraine - the bomber was 200 miles inside Russia. They used a Ukrainian-modified Russian anti-aircraft missile. Gotta love it!

Ukraine Says It Shot Down a Russian Backfire Supersonic Bomber for First Time

 

[CH4]

Hmmm
Backfire bomber
Aptly named

Didn’t they just sink another Russian ship?

 

[biku324]

Yup. A Russian landing ship used to move supplies to Russian installations.

Russian landing ship Caesar Kunikov sunk off Crimea, says Ukraine

Well, them Russkies still have 59 Backfires airworthy...maybe.

 

[LVSteve]

Popped it from 191 miles using a tweaked SA-5 allegedly. Russian Tu-22M3 Backfire Shot Down With S-200 Missile: Ukraine’s Spy Chief

 

[biku324]

Saw the aid package passed today...fresh ammo on the way!

 

[oldbrownhat]

Ukraine Says It Shot Down a Russian Backfire Supersonic Bomber for First Time

...the Russian Ministry of Defense claimed that a Tu-22M3 aircraft had crashed... due to a "technical malfunction.."

LOL. Not entirely untrue. Being struck by a missile could cause a technical malfunction.

How do you say, "being economical with the truth" in Russian?

 

[biku324]

'There is no Izvestia in Pravada, and no Pravada in Izvestia.'

 

[Onomea]

That is impressive.

Slava Ukrani!

 

[Rudi]

Did the crew eject? Looks like they would have had time. IVAN is a hard job.

 

[LVSteve]

That is impressive.

Slava Ukrani!

The SA-5 missile is a big stick. It weighs over 7 tons, is more than 35 feet long, and carries a 450+ lb warhead. The SA-5 fire control radar is rumored to be an enlarged copy of the British Type 86 system used with their Bloodhound SAM. Popular theory is that some Soviet spy walked off with a set of schematics for a system the UK had sold to a European customer. Oops.

 

[Alk8944]

Ukraines shot down a Russian bomber with a Russian missile, way to go.

A slightly different take on the "Happy Ending" to a gun fight.

 

[biku324]

Did the crew eject? Looks like they would have had time. IVAN is a hard job.

Two ejected, two not so much.

 

[LVSteve]

Y'all should recall that Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union along with Russia and a bunch of other countries a while back when the SA-5 was being developed. It's hardly a "Russian" missile at all. Some may remember that its long range prowess was proven in a very unfortunate way when an SA-5 shot down an airliner over the Black Sea during a Ukrainian training exercise due to a foul up in the conduct of the exercise.

 

[oldbrownhat]

...two not so much.

ie "ejected upon impact"?

 

[timjake]

Had to search a bit to find an SA-5 pic that has something to reference for size.

 

[biku324]

ie "ejected upon impact"?

Apparently. They can re-use the survival kits, maybe.

 

[WR Moore]

Wonder if the radar threat detector on the bomber didn't flag the targeting radar as hostile? Assuming it had the equipment-and it worked.

 

[Kevin J.]

Had to search a bit to find an SA-5 pic that has something to reference for size.

A quote from John McCain on the SAM missiles. "Flying telephone poles"

On his 23rd mission over North Vietnam, on Oct. 26, 1967, he was flying through heavy flak over Hanoi, dodging SAM missiles that looked "like flying telephone poles," when he heard a "beep" signaling that a SAM had locked on to his plane.

 

[LVSteve]

Wonder if the radar threat detector on the bomber didn't flag the targeting radar as hostile? Assuming it had the equipment-and it worked.

The Ukrainians have hinted that the missile had some non-standard features. There are a laundry list of what that may mean, but I would hazard that most involve cutting down the amount of time the engagement radar has to be on. Keeping that time short gives the target less time to react. Of course, the radar warning system of the attacked aircraft may still recognize a former Soviet signal as friendly. Not so much, these days.

 

[Narragansett]

I watched the video. Why did they pan the camera to the left before the plane went out of sight and hit the ground? A little suspect??