Eye Opening Visit To Cabelas Today.

I was at a counter in a LGS many years ago. Guy walked in, said he never owned a gun, and asked the proprietor to show him how a pump shotgun worked.
He bought the gun and a box of shells, went home and ate the barrel.
 
I had something like that happen to me many years ago. I simply pulled the firearm from the offenders hand, and told him if he ever did that again, I was going to shove it up his ***, or die trying.
 
At a gun show s few years ago I asked to take a look at the 30 Carbine in the rack the dealer handed it to me and I racked the action to find a live round eject, than I removed a full 30 round magazine.
At our local gun store some years ago there is a hole in the ceiling from an "unloaded" Mod 61 Winchester that was "Unloaded".


Never trust anyone, always "Instantly" stop anyone not properly handling any firearm.
 
This brings back a memory I tend to repress as it still makes me shudder......

Rural Virginia at an outdoor estate sale
Several handguns on a table
People casually picking them up
No thought to safe handling
I wait my "turn" to pick up a S&W revolver
One guy had been cocking and de-cocking it
I open the cylinder
S&W Model 18 fully loaded
My blood ran cold and my mouth got loud, blue and hot.
 
Years ago my ex wife and I were at the range ,
Her 22a failed to go into battery
She turned toward me saying "this thing isn't working"
She had turned her entire body toward me including her arms and the pistol that was pointed right at my stomach from about 4' feet away
I remember sucking wind and trying to make myself skinny as possible as I stepped forward to palm the gun away from me while loudly saying "Hey'"
She acted like I'd over reacted .
There was a live round in the chamber , it only took a few ounces of thumb pressure to lock the 22a into battery and fire
 
For every story like this there is someone following the rules, but nobody notices. Case in point, my brother decides to take his girlfriend shooting. Never shot before, so he goes over the rules of safe gunhandling beforehand. They shoot his Model 15 and things go well. Then they switch to a single shot 20 gauge. My brother shows her how to work the gun and fires it once, before reloading and handing it to her. She raises the gun, and he is just about to remind her to pull it into her shoulder, when she touches it off. Gun was still a ways from her shoulder. It not only slammed her shoulder, but her right hand hit her pretty hard in the nose. With tears streaming down her face, she turned to him as if to ask "Why?" The gun? Pointed directly downrange. She even had the presence of mind to open the gun up before handing it to him. I tell people this story and say, "If an absolute beginner can remember and follow the rules, so can you!"
 
An example of treat every weapon as it is loaded..

My BIL and I went to a gun show one time in Kingsport, TN and he was looking for a cheap .22 pistol to carry. I told him I'd had a bunch of the little guns over the years and one I had the best luck with was a Sterling, we go looking for one.

Found a table with one for $75, no zip tie or lock on it even though there should have been one on it at a show. He picks it up and was handling it, I said bud you need to make sure it's clear, rack it back. When he did, a live round pops out on the table, everyone standing there was pretty shocked.

Another few seconds of handling that pistol and I guarantee there'd have been a shot. I know him far too well, he'd have pulled that trigger.

That was probably one in a million, but it happened...never assume a firearm is unloaded, even at a show...
 
Very 1st thing I was taught about firearms is never,ever point one at anyone or anything I didn't want to kill,any violation of that rule ment shooting privileges suspended for a year,and my dad ment it too,whole family was taught that.one of my sisters lost her shooting rights and was an ammo bearer for a year,still kid her about that
 
The way to have sudden total silence at a gun show is for an "N D". It takes several minutes for any sound to come back. Luckily, no one has ever been hurt at any shows I have attended, but I have heard of instances where someone has been hurt.
 
Years of doing gun shows and I have been around way too many AD's. Instant silence! Usually a table holder but not always. Never had one in the shop but we were extremely diligent about checking and proper handling of guns. More than once we did have someone bringing in a loaded gun to sell. Sometimes it was someone who had inherited it and simply had no clue. Other times it was more due to lack of common sense. Of course there were also the fools who decided they wanted a new holster for the loaded gun they were carrying or some similar bit of stupidity.

No excuse for bad firearm handling whether it it's an employee or a customer. Basic rule is treat every gun as loaded and anything else is not acceptable.
 
Stopped in to the Cabelas gun counter. While waiting my turn one of their counter guys was selling a long gun to a customer. As he waited for forms to be completed the counter guy started taking other long guns off the rack and cycled them. He then proceeded to sight down on me at the far end of the counter. With three different guns. Tried to get him to point the muzzle up, didn't seem to register. He then picked up the rifle being sold and released the bolt while it was pointed down the counter between three other customers and another counter sales guy AND the department manager. I eventually got one of the counter guys attention and made clear my disappointment with the situation. He seemed indifferent but said he would mention it to the clueless employee.

Was I wrong saying something? I know they don't keep loaded guns in the rack, but i'd bet that if i sighted down on one of their employees with a handgun, even with a trigger lock, they would escort me out of the store.

Should I have found the store manager and discussed it?

YOU were wrong staying the same spot and maybe getting shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Stopped in to the Cabelas gun counter. While waiting my turn one of their counter guys was selling a long gun to a customer. As he waited for forms to be completed the counter guy started taking other long guns off the rack and cycled them. He then proceeded to sight down on me at the far end of the counter.

Was I wrong saying something? I know they don't keep loaded guns in the rack, but i'd bet that if i sighted down on one of their employees with a handgun, even with a trigger lock, they would escort me out of the store.

Should I have found the store manager and discussed it?

I'd have called him out in front of God and everybody else at the counter. In a store or not, willfully pointing a firearm at someone is a form of assault, especially if it's pointed at ME. He may not have been aware of it, but that makes it even worse, given the fact he's handling guns around people all day on the job. It shows an incredible lack of concern for basic firearm safety and inattentiveness to his surroundings. At the very least, it's unprofessional.

Then I would have said something to the store manager, along the lines of "if I ever see anybody here do that again.....".
 
Years ago I was at a gun show and negligent discharge happened, It got very quiet. No one was hurt. It was a dealer.

I think it was around 1995, just as I was arriving at gun show in Jackson, Mississippi, they were throwing a dealer out because of a negligent discharge - I think it was a supposedly "unloaded" .38 Special revolver that a customer was looking at. A few years later there was another negligent discharge at a Jackson gun show - this time a .270 rifle. I did not attend that show, but read about it in the paper the next day. A few years later I was at another Jackson gun show when a .22 rifle discharged - right into the ceiling of the old Trademart. Everything got deathly quiet immediately. Again, a dealer was thrown out. Those are the NDs I know of - three within probably ten years.
I couldn't count the times I have been "swept" at gun shows.
 
I don't really have anything to add to this except to say that I wouldn't have tolerated that behavior. I certainly wouldn't have stuck around if the behavior continued.

On a slightly similar note I took a Glock to a gun store in Colorado Springs to have night sights put on it. I had a chamber flag in the gun. I opened the case I showed the guy that there was no magazine in the gun then I pointed to the chamber flag, which was sticking out the muzzle of the gun as well as the ejection port, and said to the guy "You see that there's a chamber flag in the barrel."

The guy looked at me like I was crazy and picked the gun up and cleared it.

I mean, I get it, better safe than sorry but come on man.
 
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One of the biggest dealers of Glock's and the like is at every show I have been to locally. Of course he had a sidearm on. He went to show it to a potential buyer and ND into the concrete floor. This was in a smaller town using rented town facilities. That was the last show the town has ever had. Can't imagine why anyone in his right mind would have a chamber loaded firearm in a gun show of all places for any reason.
 
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