The biggest threat around here are the ever present DUI drivers.
The True Distance of a Typical Gunfight
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Consider post-shoot distance as well. If you live in a small town, a rural area, or a stable urban neighborhood, know that your recipient has friends and relatives you will encounter in stores, restaurants, sporting events, convenience stores, churches, etc., etc. None forget that you killed their relative or friend or fellow gang member for two generations. Maybe the shooting ended one thing and started another. Threat assessment and managing personal exposure is definitely in order.
High threat = find a safer place to be (increasing distance).
High threat = find a safer place to be (increasing distance).
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I live in ABQ, a very dangerous city. Here are the threats as I experience them; Gang members, homeless zombies, and teens.
Gang members, I don't worry about too much as they, generally, don't mess with "civilians " unless someone does something stupid. They're in areas I generally avoid.
Homeless zombies and teens are everywhere, unpredictable, don't care, and tend to be in places/properties where firearms are prohibited. VERY dangerous as they know there's really no consequences for whatever they do.
I don't carry, but what's kept me out of bad situations is paying attention to who and what's going on around me and trusting my gut feeling. I also know where and where not to go and when. The other thing is that I know how to carry myself and to look like someone who is NOT a victim. The last thing is, I know how to fight, I am willing to fight, I am able to fight, but I will do ANYTHING to avoid a fight - nothing good will come out of it.
Time/space, when you control it, is your best friend in SD situations. Train, train, train, be willing and most importantly, ABLE, to fight if it comes down to that and deal with the aftermath.
Good luck.
BTW, I don't make any claims of being anybody/anything other than being a regular guy doing regular guy things.
Gang members, I don't worry about too much as they, generally, don't mess with "civilians " unless someone does something stupid. They're in areas I generally avoid.
Homeless zombies and teens are everywhere, unpredictable, don't care, and tend to be in places/properties where firearms are prohibited. VERY dangerous as they know there's really no consequences for whatever they do.
I don't carry, but what's kept me out of bad situations is paying attention to who and what's going on around me and trusting my gut feeling. I also know where and where not to go and when. The other thing is that I know how to carry myself and to look like someone who is NOT a victim. The last thing is, I know how to fight, I am willing to fight, I am able to fight, but I will do ANYTHING to avoid a fight - nothing good will come out of it.
Time/space, when you control it, is your best friend in SD situations. Train, train, train, be willing and most importantly, ABLE, to fight if it comes down to that and deal with the aftermath.
Good luck.
BTW, I don't make any claims of being anybody/anything other than being a regular guy doing regular guy things.
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If I remember right 3 were in or around a residence. I think one was in a driveway.
I'm still wondering what's a "typical " gun fight.
When you say no litigation do you also mean no civil litigation? Does the local news cover all litigation, both civil and criminal, brought sometimes months after the incident?
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I'll second that.
That right there!
I mean the shootings were determined to be justified SD shootings by the county prosecutor and no charges were filed. No, the local news does not follow all of these events for months afterward. What makes you think that civil lawsuits automatically follow justified shootings that don't result in criminal charges? There is much paranoia in this world we live in. It is the most common form of mental illness. Ever heard the term "frivolous lawsuit"? Just might have consequences for those that attempt to file them. The only civil cases that get filed are done by a certain segment of society against the city when a shooting was done by an LEO. Quick way to riches, file a lawsuit, settle out of court for big bucks from the soft on crime city officials.
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"Gentlemen"???
One of my pet peeves too. Gentlemen protect others, they don’t prey on them. That’s weakness...
Yes, I've heard of the frivolous lawsuit. They still get filed and you need an attorney to represent you if you or your business is subject to one. I don't think they automatically follow a justifiable shooting in a criminal investigation. Not sure how you came to that conclusion.
That's why I have carry insurance to pay an attorney for something like that.
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Great idea but most in Congress have law degrees.
Even if they had to post a bond equal to the attorney fees before filing the suit.
Maurice Cordova shot a 20-something who broke into his house, then when Maurice told him to get out, the intruder threatened him with a 7- or 8-inch knife. Maurice shot him. The intruder survived; he sued Cordova. Corova won, but it took a year and several thousand dollars in attorney's fees. The perp was ordered to pay the fees, but was (of course) indigent.
Maurice is my only acquaintance who has used a firearm in his home to stop a knife wielding intruder, so the SD post-shoot lawsuit rate is 100% in my limited circle of acquaintances.
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LVSteve
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Your location, Indiana. Things are different here. I'm too close to the West Coast to avoid having a civil lawsuit filed by an idiot lawyer wanting to become the next Johnny Cochran. Yes, you have a good chance of getting it dismissed in the first 20 minutes in court, but you still probably have to pay an attorney several thousand dollars, and even if the judge awards costs, good luck ever seeing the money.
See post#68 for my fix to such nonsense.
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Not here in Indiana, not sure about your location. In a case of a SD that was ruled legit by the county prosecutor and no criminal charges were filed I have personally never seen on the local news that a civil lawsuit was ever filed against the shooter. If someone actually tries to file a civil suit against you all you have to do is go to the Court House and file a counter claim disputing the charges for a fee of about $25. You don't need an attorney to represent you. In the extremely unlikely event that the Magistrate would rule against you and try to award money to the plaintiff you simply walk out after the court session and never pay a dime. Civil court rules are that they cannot put liens on property, order you to write a check or make any form of payment It is a judgement period and it is up to the plaintiff to try and collect. All the plaintiff can do is go back to court and refile for a fee of $125 and bring you back to court for another round of the same thing. Many people do not understand the rules of civil courts and end up complying with the plaintiff who is trying to scam you through intimidation. You just never pay and the scammer gets tired of trying to steal your money at his expense and gives up.
Unless, of course, the court tires of the filings and combines the cases arising from the same incident. See Federal Rules of Civil Procedure Rule 19; nearly all states have nearly identical rules.
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My experience in dealing with a would be scammer in civil court is that the case has a case number to start with and all subsequent filings are listed by date filed under the same case number. When the Magistrate gets tired of the same case being filed by the plaintiff, only takes a very few, he simply refuses to try the case that has already been decided, and the scammer loses his $125 without even having the satisfaction of dragging you back to court again. Fearful people don't understand that it is nearly impossible for scammers to steal your money without your compliance.
