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A Shield encased in Elephant
Arrived today. Brown elephant OWB made by Roy Weber at
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This product compares with any top notch holster maker I have ever used.
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Elephants are non-predatory mammals just like dolphins. Perhaps you will help save an elephant by choosing crocodile or shark skin next time.
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What's next? A baby seal holster? Maybe a Bald Eagle holster?
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Rocking Holsters should reveal the source of his elephant skin. I'm sure it must be covered by CITES CITES - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I know of no commercially farmed elephants, although many Asian elephants are held in captivity and die of natural causes. I stay away from these exotic leathers although I do have an alligator pocket cigar case that was a gift, but that's my limit.
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WHERE can I get a dolphin skin holster???? That would be awesome!!
Great looking holster by the way. And for those that are unaware of the positive effect of hunting on African game, there is a wealth of great educational information out there. Might want to start with something like this:
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...So are cows.... so predators are OK for making leather but others are not. also consider this...
The source of all African elephant skins come from culls once the elephant heard reaches destructive numbers to African tribes and nature. It’s very similar to our deer season in the United States. Without culling, African tribes would loose their homes and possibly become trampled to death. Designers, manufactures, and leather enthusiasts should not feel emotional or have guilt for using this leather as we are not creating a demand rather using a by product.
Oh nice looking holster by the way.
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Great looking holster by the way. And for those that are unaware of the positive effect of hunting on African game, there is a wealth of great educational information out there. Might want to start with something like this:
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I guess if enough money changes hands, anything is justified.
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If anyone starts making I.S. skin holsters they can put me down for a few.
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You can even select whether you prefer your holster made from the ear, the trunk or the hide......local holster maker in Fort Worth has some really fine pieces of work.
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Beautiful holster.But I suppose if some people had there way.We would all carry kydex holsters and eat tofu.
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I have taken 5 elephants and have all kinds of products made from there hide in fact I have a number of tanned elephant panels in storage for future products. Hunting elephants is one of the most physically challenging and dangerous hunts you can do.
It funny how intolerant gun owning anti hunters can be and oblivious to the fact that in many area elephants are over populated and will starve as a result of destroying their habitat. Kind of like the anti gun crowd not wanting to look at real statistics!
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Just for that comment I am ordering a matching ELEPHANT belt from
Quality USA Handcrafted Belts and Wallets - Bullhide Belts, Dress Leather Belts, Wallets, Gun Belts, Exotics, Double Prong Belts, Money Belts
because Rocking W does not make they yet.
Rocking W make a beautiful ostrich leg holster. Now you can spend the rest of the night worrying about a ostrich limping around on one leg being chased by a predatory lion........
Ummm..... I wonder what lion skin loafers would look like.
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...So are cows.... so predators are OK for making leather but others are not. also consider this...
The source of all African elephant skins come from culls once the elephant heard reaches destructive numbers to African tribes and nature. It’s very similar to our deer season in the United States. Without culling, African tribes would loose their homes and possibly become trampled to death. Designers, manufactures, and leather enthusiasts should not feel emotional or have guilt for using this leather as we are not creating a demand rather using a by product.
Oh nice looking holster by the way.
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It's not the size of the elephant heard it's the size of the 2 legged heard. Even that article said so. Land is in demand. Of course once people move in one elephant is one too many. Also my area has that so called deer problem. Funny thing is 10 years ago there was no problem. Deer were not large numbers but now that there are developments left and right yea any wildlife is too many. Back to the elephants. ...legally hunting elephants is fine but for some reasons hunters only count the numbers they kill. No one counts the amount killed by poachers. And with gestation of 2 years I can see how some think they breed like rats
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Why don't you shoot some buffalo? Oh I forgot there's hardly any left
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Nice leather!
Somehow, seems like the leather deserves a higher end firearm.
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I'd like to see this over in the "Gun Leather" section, just to see what some of the holster makers thoughts are on this. FWIW I think its really pretty nice looking. My holster was made from a "mad" cow, so I'm good.
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Nice leather!
Somehow, seems like the leather deserves a higher end firearm.
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Just for the heck of it, I tried my Kimber Ultra CDP II. Perfect fit right down to the safety lever when cocked and locked.
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Just for the heck of it, I tried my Kimber Ultra CDP II. Perfect fit right down to the safety lever when cocked and locked.
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My Kimber Ultra CDP II has Mammoth ivory grips on them. Is that allowed? I wouldn't want them to go extinct or anything...
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Trophies vary
I know some folks take those animals as trophies but I prefer to look at my gun collection as a trophy. Sure wouldn't fly 6000 miles to hunt a 60-70 year old animal.
Does seem like an easy hunt though. Kind of like shooting a barn. Least that's what I was told.
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For the record, bald eagles are opportunity eaters. If there are plenty of fish to eat, they will, but they will also east rotting carcasses of whatever animal is handy. It's all about the looks with them. Ben Franklin should have gotten his wish and have the wild turkey as out national bird.
That is a nice looking and somewhat unique holster, but the one's I've seen are quite spendy.
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Thanks for sharing. So I do have an elephant skin flip-flop all this time.
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When I first showed that pistol to my GF, she said "I think it's terrible that they shoot Woolly Mammoths just so you can decorate your gun..."
She sure is pretty to look at, though...
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I have taken 5 elephants and have all kinds of products made from there hide in fact I have a number of tanned elephant panels in storage for future products. Hunting elephants is one of the most physically challenging and dangerous hunts you can do.
It funny how intolerant gun owning anti hunters can be and oblivious to the fact that in many area elephants are over populated and will starve as a result of destroying their habitat. Kind of like the anti gun crowd not wanting to look at real statistics!
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Nice holster!
And I have a elephant hide belt with a Weatherby buckle.
And never hunted them, also have had two sets of cowboy boots made from elephant hide.
Some people should get a life.......
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Nice looking holster. And the price for the elephant hide model is lower than I thought it would be too. I also like their alligator hide holsters too, but they are pretty pricey. Damn things are a menace around where I live.
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Fantastic grips Pavia. Where did you get them?
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I worry about the kydex. The recent surge in popularity must be taking a toll. Are they hunted only for their skins? I don't know anybody who has eaten one. Are they on the endangered list?
We saw this happen with naugas in the 60s. Everything was made of naugahyde. You don't see it anymore, so I assume we drove them to extinction.
Lack of habitat will get the elephant.
When people and elephants compete for the same land, the people win. Looking at it cynically, the only prolonging factors for the African elephant are disease, famine, and war.
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A woman who grew up near Nairobi, Kenya came to work at my office. I was visiting with her one day and was wearing my old Nacona elephant skin boots. Apologetically, I mentioned to her that the boots were from a legal harvest that was properly imported into the U.S. and that although I would love to go on a safari, I wouldn't want to hunt elephant.
She looked me in the eye and said, "Elephants are destructive and mean. You wouldn't want one living in your back yard." End of discussion.
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Does seem like an easy hunt though. Kind of like shooting a barn. Least that's what I was told.[/QUOTE]
Easy hunt! We track about 10 to 15 miles a day trying to get a look at the ivory if its not of trophy quality we walk back empty handed well not quite empty handed as I am carrying a rifle weighing 10 to 12 lbs. In the process of tracking jumbo its not all that uncommon to get charged and have to run like hell if the elephant or in rare cases elephants has something more in mind than chasing you away you have to stand your ground and shoot or get run over or impaled.
Shooting a barn?? Clients get in close stalking up within 25 to 30 feet of the target sometimes depending on wind walking into the herd trying to judge ivory all that's going thru a lot of the clients mind is getting the hell out of there in one piece. The target area the brain is the size of a football is about 11 1/2 feet up the the air requiring the hunter to take the angle into consideration a frontal brain shot at close distances requires shooting way low below their eye level so as not to shoot over the brain. The bush can be so thick that you cannot even see all the elephants standing around you.
Its not for everyone but its pure adrenalin and the most exciting animal to hunt unless Jurassic park became a reality.
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Fantastic grips Pavia. Where did you get them?
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I worry about the kydex. The recent surge in popularity must be taking a toll. Are they hunted only for their skins? I don't know anybody who has eaten one. Are they on the endangered list?
We saw this happen with naugas in the 60s. Everything was made of naugahyde. You don't see it anymore, so I assume we drove them to extinction.
Lack of habitat will get the elephant.
When people and elephants compete for the same land, the people win. Looking at it cynically, the only prolonging factors for the African elephant are disease, famine, and war.
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LOL!!! Save The Kydex!
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Arrived today. Brown elephant OWB made by Roy Weber at
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It's your money and your decision on what to buy. Good choice.
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Just for that comment I am ordering a matching ELEPHANT belt...Rocking W make a beautiful ostrich leg holster. Now you can spend the rest of the night worrying about a ostrich limping around on one leg being chased by a predatory lion...I wonder what lion skin loafers would look like.
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As a matter fact, I have on a pair of seal skin boots that I bought in either South Africa or Namibia several years ago. They were soft and comfortable the day I bought them, but last forever. I just don't think you can wear them out.
I see no difference in making shoes from a cow's skin or from a seal's skin.
As I have said before "My, my, my, we have upset the animal huggers again"
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Just for that comment I am ordering a matching ELEPHANT belt...Rocking W make a beautiful ostrich leg holster. Now you can spend the rest of the night worrying about a ostrich limping around on one leg being chased by a predatory lion...I wonder what lion skin loafers would look like.
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Some people aren't very good at speaking fluent sarcasm...
It's a beautiful holster..I have no issue with using different animals to make products. I do have an issue with people that use only one piece of the animal. Generally elephants are shot down by poachers for ivory..then they quickly cut the tusks off with cutoff saws and they're gone. Skinning an animal that big isn't a quick thing , and I would imagine most poachers aren't willing to put in the time at a crime scene.
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Congrats on your new holster OP!
Wow, Handejector your so right! Where are the people in the streets protesting?!?
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Beautiful pistol pocket, I'd be proud to own. It'd kill some PETA leaning friends but their facial expressions would be priceless. Joe
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It's a beautiful holster..I have no issue with using different animals to make products. I do have an issue with people that use only one piece of the animal. Generally elephants are shot down by poachers for ivory..then they quickly cut the tusks off with cutoff saws and they're gone. Skinning an animal that big isn't a quick thing , and I would imagine most poachers aren't willing to put in the time at a crime scene.
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What does poaching have to do with his holster. He obtained it legally and ethically utilized the game animal... most likely to the great benefit of the local economy, as they are certainly not rich and probably could use the meat and guide fees.
Of course, poachers are scum and should be shot on sight. But this has zero to do with poaching.
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Elephant hide brief case a spare my original one is 30 years old and going strong. Rifle case, binocular case cartridge holder all elephant. I had a holster but its now owned by a forum member who for his protection will remain anonymous.
The pencil holder is not elephant anyone want to guess what it is?
This discussion motivated me to change my avatar
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pencil holder appears to be a scrotum. A safari going friend of mine had his wife a handbag made from cape bufufflo scrotum.
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If humans are killing elephants because humans move into elephant territory I hope none of the remains go to waste.
It's just a matter of time we will do ourselves in.
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Elephant is a hide source that goes on and off the list with regularity. I own several pairs of exotic hide boots, two of which are from legally culled elephant. There were times in the past when such boots could not be ordered for any price ... other times they could be ordered by the dozen. Look at what Sam Andrews offers in his catalogue of exotic holster materials.
Exotic hides used for belts, boots, holsters, etc. by reputable artisans are not the byproduct of poaching.
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What does poaching have to do with his holster. He obtained it legally and ethically utilized the game animal... most likely to the great benefit of the local economy, as they are certainly not rich and probably could use the meat and guide fees.
Of course, poachers are scum and should be shot on sight. But this has zero to do with poaching.
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I never said it did. The holster is a beautiful piece, and I would love to have one like it in my collection. This was my comment to some of the people that were speaking badly of the fact that an elephant was killed to make the holster. I think that if the entire animal was used ( or at least what could be used ), then i am all for it. Some comments led me to think that some members think it's a shame to use the animal regardless of the reason that it was killed.
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I wonder how many holsters you can get out of one elephant?
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I call this my PETA rig, it's both genuine elephant on the holster and real ivory for the grips. I sleep just fine with it next to the bed!
Vintage Elephant-1.jpg by White Tiger Photographic, on Flickr
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02-11-2015, 07:29 AM
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pencil holder appears to be a scrotum. A safari going friend of mine had his wife a handbag made from cape bufufflo scrotum.
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This has nothing to do with PETA it is a CITES issue CITES
Why do a lot of people think you have to be a gay, vegetarian tree hugger to oppose the killing and exploitation of endangered species?
This is the 21st Century not the 19th. The time of the Great White Hunter.
I eat steaks, love venison and use lots of leather products but they are mostly made from cattle, lamb, goat or deerskin, even kangaroo.
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This has been said in other threads. If you don't agree with any OP, move along. There is no need to defend, reflect, rebutt, criticize or take moral ground.
Now if the OP asks for an opinion way in. But I didn't see mention of that in the post.
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What's next? A baby seal holster? Maybe a Bald Eagle holster?
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Holy ****!!!
We can get a holster made from baby seals??? I want one. Where??
WHERE???
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