I never knew how comfortable a proper belt could be until....

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One of the problems of being of "ample" body shape in Kiwi Land is that most clothing stores only stock decent belts up to around 40" (I'm 42-43" waist depending on whether I'm gaining or loosing weight this month :D:D).

When I do find a belt that is long enough it is usually so thin and soft that the leather stretches and the belt tension is distributed over a small part of the width. This has lead me to punching "in between" holes in my belts. Even so they were so uncomfortable and required 'resetting" so often that a few years ago I had suspender buttons sewn into the waistband of both my duty and "casual dress" trousers and wore both belts and suspenders.

Earlier this year I placed two De Santis 1 1/2" E25 gun belts onto my wish list at Midway USA, intending to pick them up while passing through Columbia. Before we got there, however, we were shopping in Walmart in San Antonio when I came across a nice leather belt in the right size. Not as heavy as a proper gun belt it was heavier than the belt I was wearing so I bought it as a "jeans" belt. It was a fraction too large on the shortest hole but even so it was quite good at holding my jeans up.

When I picked up the De Santis belts the stiffness surprised me. Although I had correctly measured my "waist" according to Midway's instructions these too were quite loose, so when I got home I punched an extra four holes in each belt before setting one of the E25's on my uniform trousers and the other on my "casual dress" pants.

All three belts have shown me just what I have been missing in comfort most of my life. I no longer have to wear the suspenders as well s the belt. The tension, especially on the De Santis belts, covers the whole belt width and while I do need the occasional "reset" it is usually only once or twice a day, not every time I get out of the car when working.

A decent belt is now something I will always insist on, even without carrying a holster and pistol.
 
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I don't know if the Carhartt line of product is available to you, but here in US, their work belts do a fabulous job for not a lot of money.

Glad you discovered what a really good belt offers to you!

Randy
 
For carrying a gun on a belt, I like suspenders. It gets the weight off my hip bones and onto my shoulders.
 
I like sturdy belts, even when I'm not carrying a gun. I've got three Beltman belts: 1.5" bullhide, 1.25" bullhide, and 1.25" horsehide. I've mostly been using my 1.25" horsehide belt for carrying my Beretta PX4 Compact and it works great. I've used the 1.5" bullhide belt to carry a 3" 65 for 12+ hours/day with good comfort.

I do have a set of Perry Suspenders, the kind that clip onto the belt, but I only really use them when I use my IWB mag pouch with my IWB holster; it seems with both items carried IWB my belt doesn't ride on my hips the same way and I need the extra support.
 
I don't know if the Carhartt line of product is available to you, but here in US, their work belts do a fabulous job for not a lot of money.

Glad you discovered what a really good belt offers to you!

Randy

Randy
Which Carhartt model do you use? Looking online it doesn't state the belt thickness.
Thanks
 
I have often marveled at photos of folks carrying quality firearms in good holsters, dangling from cheap inadequate belts. Possibly New Zealand's southern location exacerbates such dangling, but the original poster's comments have global application.

While not aesthetically competitive with leather belts, Wilderness Outfitters of Phoenix AZ makes belts equal in every practical respect to quality leather belts in 1.5" and 1.75" widths, to whatever length the customer specifies, and which cost significantly less than a quality custom leather belt. Wilderness belts are internally reinforced with stiff nylon inserts, making them as stiff as a double thickness leather belt and capable of supporting heavy pistols.
 
Edit^^^^^^^^^^ beat me to it! :D

Check out Wilderness Tactical Frequent Flyer belt........ a Instructor'e style belt with double rings and Velcro ......... infinitely adjustable over about 3-4 inches.

5 Stitch model is a good gun belt for either IWB or OWB
 
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Like holsters, belts are a personal preference, and sometimes you have to experiment to find a combo that works for you.

I prefer leather. My Beltman bullhide belts are coming up on 7-8 years of regular use, and they still work very well despite receiving minimal care. My recently purchased 1.25" horsehide belt has been getting most of the use the last couple of months and it also performs very well.

I also have a 1.5", 5-stitch Wilderness Frequent Flyer belt. It's adequate for IWB use for me, but I get better support from my leather belt, so when carrying it's more comfortable to use leather. It's similar in age to my bullhide belts, but the velcro is losing quite a bit of it's adhesion. For the past few years I've only used it when carrying my gun at home. Chances are I'll order another one for travel purposes, though maybe I'll get the 1.25" version instead.

Having said that, I'd say it could be a good, lower-cost alternative to a good double-layer leather gun belt for some people.
 
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