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FBI holsters
I just received a Crump holster that was possibly an issue holster for the FBI.
In 1951 Evaluators Ltd. was seeking an order for Heiser made holsters for the FBI, they were up against the B.T. Crump Co.
Here are 2 letters from General Van Orden of Evaluators to C.E. Parr of Heiser.
I have a pair of Crump holsters, both marked for 4” M&P revolvers which were standard issue for field agents at the time. The darker holster has what appears to be an inked name scratched out underneath the M.P. stamp.
We’ve discussed the appearance of Heiser’s model 457 holster in the number 32 catalog described as being designed for if not by the FBI, that was the holster being discussed in the letters above although the model 459 with a hammer protector was cataloged around this time as well. Note that the model 457 still has the FBI stamp in the logo, the 459 shows the logo with those letters ground off. Also note that one holster is riveted at the top and one is double sewn.
Finally, I bought these two S.D. Myres holsters from a man in Texas some years ago. After he’d shipped them to me he told me that they had belonged to his brother in law who had been the SAC for the Houston FBI office. This may or may not be true but at least he told me the story after I’d already bought the holsters.
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$1.58 each. I would say that is competitive.
Here is my Crump FBI holster with my Model 10 along for the ride.
S&W M&P and Colt's OP were the issue revolvers back in the early
1950s, and as John said Heiser was providing holster through
Evaluators, with a bit of competition from Crump.
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John,
Thank you for sharing the letters with us. I learn something new every day, and the inner-workings of government suppliers always fascinates me.
Many years ago, when I was training jumping horses, we had BT Crump saddles. Is that the same Crump that made the holsters?
As always, you have some prime examples there.
Merry Christmas!
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Originally Posted by SAFireman
John,
Thank you for sharing the letters with us. I learn something new every day, and the inner-workings of government suppliers always fascinates me.
Many years ago, when I was training jumping horses, we had BT Crump saddles. Is that the same Crump that made the holsters?
As always, you have some prime examples there.
Merry Christmas!
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Same Crump, better known for horse tack and equipment. I think all of the Crump holsters I’ve seen over the years have been utilitarian and law enforcement oriented, and I haven’t seen that many.
Regards,
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Thats pretty cool to read something like that...
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I just noticed the 5 stars, and this thread sure does deserve the stars
if any threads do. Thank you John.
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I found this on the FBI website. The caption claims this FBI holster was designed by Hank Sloan. It is a Heiser 457 clone, and is made for the FBI 4-inch Model 10 with standard barrel. The maker of the holster is Crump (zoom in on the lower portion of the holster).
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Originally Posted by shawn mccarver
I found this on the FBI website. The caption claims this FBI holster was designed by Hank Sloan. It is a Heiser 457 clone, and is made for the FBI 4-inch Model 10 with standard barrel. The maker of the holster is Crump (zoom in on the lower portion of the holster).
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The site is wrong: that's not the Sloan holster.
It is true that the Sloan was a version of the Heiser 459: same designer crafte the Heiser 457, the Heiser 459, the J.M. Bucheimer Sloan holster, and many more. He was Al 'Kip' Kippen who began at Heiser looooong ago and then helped found Colorado Saddlery then returned to Heiser, then went to J.M. Bucheimer, then went to S&W's new leathergoods operation by '69 or so. So all their styling is so similar that it takes an expert such as you and me to know the difference.
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Here is my Heiser 457 clone, by American Classic Gunleather for my 4-inch standard barrel Model 10-5. All you need. Nothing you don’t.
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Very neat holsters and love all the information in this post
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