Gould & Goodrich Holsters: Resolution in post #16

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I'm no expert when it comes to holsters.

A couple of years ago, I purchased a couple of used, Davis Leather Co. duty holsters from Numrich.

What a tough couple of holsters those are!

Built like tanks and fit my S&W semis like a highly protective glove.

A forum member had a Gould & Goodrich basket weave style for an S&W 4046 for a very reasonable price, so I bought it.

When it arrived it looked great on the outside, but the first thing I noticed was that a 4046 would not go in and a compact 9mm pistol was a struggle.

As I tried to get even the smaller pistol to fit inside, I saw lots and lots of flaking material abrading from the inside, which seemed to be shredding and fouling the pistol and making a nasty mess.

The inner lining of the holster appeared not to be split leather like on the Davis holsters but more like cardboard.

I tried a little leather dressing and the inside lining turned to mush.

I would be more inclined to push my pistols in to a mud pile than in to this holster, and would end up with the same result.

My question for the leather holster experts:

Is Gould & Goodrich a cheap, chinese cardboard holster (like a cheap, cardboard "leather" belt)?

Were they once a quality holster supplier or were they always this junky?

I didn't spend much and the seller didn't make any money, nor do I think he meant to deceive anyone.

Should I just toss this thing and stay away from Gould & Goodrich products?

John?
 
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I have had a G&G pancake holster for ten years that has been great. While I haven’t worn it everyday, it still looks like it did the day I bought it. I know they make some duty gear, but I have no experience with their them.
 
Maybe something happened to this poor holster during its life.

Is there some chemical that turns leather to mud?

Seriously, the inside of this holster looks terrible!

The retention strap is so badly cracked that it is just holding on by the stitching.

Like it had been treated with some kind of acid.

John?
 
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Smith & Wesson ventured into the holster business many years ago.
They had a synthetic material they used to make holsters called Wessonhide.

When S&W was ready to get out of the holster business they gave an
employee an opportunity to buy it. He took a partner, and it became
Gould & Goodrich.

I believe that G&G does have a synthetic leather holster in their lineup,
but not certain, or which holsters.

Wessonhide was not a bad product but it never went over very well.

Smell you holster. Leather smells like leather. Synthetic smells like
chemicals.
 
I didn't know about the history, Phil.

Very interesting!

Thanks.

I think it's leather.

It doesn't have much of a smell.

It's the model B723W-4046 LH.

Here's a couple of pictures:

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The outside looks like leather but the inside is so mushy, it can be plowed out with the slight scratch of a fingernail.

You can imagine what inserting the gun does (imaging plowing through mud).

I've never seen anything like this. :mad:

John
 
They are very good holsters and most of the time hold up very well .That name has been around a while . L/E stuff mostly
 
I have a G&G pancake holster that I bought somewhere around 1989 or 1990. I bought it for my TZ-75 Series 88, but it actually for the S&W 39, 59, x39, x59 pistols. As it turns out, even my 6946 fits and the thumb snap will actually close! Mine is a smooth, polished black leather on the outside, black suede inside.
 
As outlined above, S&W was once in the leather business and also in the non-lethal law enforcement business. S&W made the decision to get out of those businesses and concentrate on firearms. Mr. Bob Gould and a Mr. Goodrich, whom I never met, bought those businesses. They formed Gould and Goodrich. Several years later they split with Mr. Gould taking G&G leather and Mr. Goodrich taking Def-Tec.

G&G's factory is in Lillington, North Carolina. I've been to the factory and bought holsters several times (they used to have a small storefront there). I have had a factory tour (under the former owner, Mr. Bob Gould). Mr. Gould sold out a couple of years ago and I have not kept up with quality, but when Bob ran the company they made good stuff. I've heard nothing to change my mind since the change of ownership.
 
How long a leather holster remains serviceable has a lot to do with how it's cared for and stored. I have a pretty good idea why it was available for a "very reasonable price," sight unseen . . .

G&G is bottom of the barrel in leather gear.

You guys are right.

I've learned a lot about leather holsters in the last few days.

Still, the member represented this holster as "slightly used in very good condition".

The outside looks excellent.

The inside (the important area) is completely trashed and unusable.

I guess I'll try to contact the seller and see what he says.

John
 
The seller (scout II) is a man of high integrity!

He refunded my money AND told me to keep the holster!

What an honorable guy.

I will happily do business with him again in the future.

John
 

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