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S.D. Myers Chief’s Special Holster
Got this nice holster a long while back. Thought it would fit a Chief’s Special - J frame. However, my revolvers just don’t seem to go all the way in and settle nicely.
This got me to wondering if this shuck was really for a Baby Chief, or some other model with the I frame. Till I find something that fits this nice leather is just going to have to sit idle …
Any opinions?
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That looks like a nice fit to me. What makes you think it is not correct?
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Doesn’t bottom out, the trigger guard won’t go in deep enough. The Chief just “hangs” there.
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Send it to me
I have a baby chief that needs a super cool Myres
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Have you tried a short barrel K Frame, like a Model 10?
It just looks too wide to be a J Frame Holster.
Maybe it’s for a Colt?
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Doesn’t bottom out, the trigger guard won’t go in deep enough. The Chief just “hangs” there.
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Good reasons! As The Pilgrim mentioned, it looks like it needs a larger frame, perhaps even the “Other” brand !
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This might work.
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Maybe a (GASP) Charter Arms? I believe they are a tad smaller.
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I suspect the OP is correct. It’s probably for a pre-1953 I or J frame. They both had the same smaller triggerguard, but the I frames had a shorter cylinder. It looks too small for a Colt Detective Special and Charter arms didn’t exist until 1964.
A photo of the Myres stamp might help.
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Reason: 1064 is 900 years too early!
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I suspect the OP is correct. It’s probably for a pre-1953 I or J frame. They both had the same smaller triggerguard, but the I frames had a shorter cylinder. It looks too small for a Colt Detective Special and Charter arms didn’t exist until 1064.
A photo of the Myres stamp might help.
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Just a suggestion as to what may fit.
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Here's another holster that the forum had trouble finding the right gun for.
An educated guess was a Colt DS, but not quite.
(It might be a Myers, too, though unmarked):
Vintage Holster Karma: Winner is forindooruseonly
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Phil's right here Pilgrim. I agree that it looks as if it was made for either
Detective Special, Agent, Cobra, or possible model 10 with 2" barrel.
The trigger guard is too far forward in the picture to be a correct fit.
By forward I mean toward the front of the holster.
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Could also be for a Colt Bankers Special. Those had the short 2” barrel but a much shorter cylinder than the Detective Special which might account for the trigger guard more forward.
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I think something larger than a J frame. Look at the space between the trigger guard and the leather. A shorter barrel or cylinder will not make that fit better.
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Since the Chief never seemed to nestle into place, I have never tried a larger revolver. Tomorrow I will see how a Detective Special works …
Sadly I don’t have a Baby Chief to try in this holster, but if anyone has a spare …
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So, how did the DS fit? I'm wondering because there is not much difference in the dimensions of the DS and the J Frame. I'm
thinking a K frame with 2" barrel, like Model 10.
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Any stamping on back of holster?
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While the Detective Special was a no-go, I turned the holster over to look at the marking. Sure enough …
There is a cursive legend above the Myers mark that says “Chief” also 1160 is inked below the maker’s stamp.
It is my opinion that this is for a Baby Chief, do the markings give a clue as to when this holster was made.
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If Red or Turner see the thread either one or both will have a Myres catalog and know what fits and when it was made.
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Thought the “1160” might be the model number of the holster, could it be a date?
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Did a forum search and found a thread re SD Myres stampings over the years. By the looks of the stamping your holster was made sometime from 1965 to 1975. Not clear as to what the 1160 number written in pen is but it conforms to that time period. Looks like another number was written next to 1160, might be 85, same as chief with no ink showing. If I had to guess the 1160 is for floral carving, 85 is the model holster and chief is for baby chief. Like I said Red and Turner will be the best source of info.
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The Chiefs Special was introduced in 1950. The trigger guard was elongated in 1953, but I’m sure Myres would still make holsters for the earlier version well after the change.
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s&wchad agree not like S.D.Myres was a novice outfit they would of known exactly what model configuration they were making the holster for.
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The holster may shrink over time if not being filled with what it was designed for. When I make a holster that is too tight, I will brush leather treatment inside and put the gun in a thin sandwich bag and press the gun in the holster, working the leather with my hands and massage it to shape.
Maybe you can stretch it to fit better.
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I have thought for soaking this holster in water, then inserting my 60 with a sandwich babe around it to get a proper fit. But it’s such a nice holster …
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153 before you do anything get a picture of the holster interior posted to see how much wear it has and any outline of the revolver left in the leather.
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(cue: Twilight Zone music: Boo BEE Boo bee)
you've entered a very unique place in the world, a place where people discuss buying a Colt revolver in order to fit a holster!
now I've just wandered in here and you can feel fit to pretend to ignore me. everybody does. my question is: who would want to carry it strapless even if the gun settled down?
I guess this subtopic is bar-b-que rigs. mmm. gun oil flavored steaks...
next, as the fellow said of Twain's jumping frog, 'waaall, ah don't see no pints about that frog that's differnt than any other frog...'
otherwise, I think only one person mentioned soaking (or steaming) it. I was just watching a clerk pound the stuffing out of a brand new baseball glove by a steamer at Dick's, using a wooden slammer. a $250 glove!
why make a project out of it? go get it steamed and crammed to stretch and make that sucker fit. hope I'm appropos.
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(cue: Twilight Zone music: Boo BEE Boo bee)
you've entered a very unique place in the world, a place where people discuss buying a Colt revolver in order to fit a holster!
now I've just wandered in here and you can feel fit to pretend to ignore me. everybody does. my question is: who would want to carry it strapless even if the gun settled down?
I guess this subtopic is bar-b-que rigs. mmm. gun oil flavored steaks...
next, as the fellow said of Twain's jumping frog, 'waaall, ah don't see no pints about that frog that's differnt than any other frog...'
otherwise, I think only one person mentioned soaking (or steaming) it. I was just watching a clerk pound the stuffing out of a brand new baseball glove by a steamer at Dick's, using a wooden slammer. a $250 glove!
why make a project out of it? go get it steamed and crammed to stretch and make that sucker fit. hope I'm appropos.
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About the worst advice ever for a holster. A ball glove you want soft and pliable to help you catch the ball. A properly fitted holster needs to be stiff enough to retain the handgun, not soft. A properly fitted holster will hold the handgun in place when turned upside down, without a restraining strap.
And it is done by welt construction. A well fitted holster does not need to be “broken in”, it fits right from the start.
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Onomea - Do you happen to have a photo of the back of that holster you
showed in #11. Looks like it could be a Barton Special. The back would
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Whatever it fits, it's a good looking holster. Might fit a detective special that belongs to a very pretty Lady that I live with.
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Onomea - Do you happen to have a photo of the back of that holster you showed in #11. Looks like it could be a Barton Special. The back would tell.
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Most definitely a Barton Special:
Per the link in post 11, beginning with SAFireman, several of us kept karma-ing it off, trying to find a gun that fit for it.
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Thanks Onomea searched found the old thread re the travelling Barton Special holster where on the 5th try it was discovered to perfectly fit the 2" I frame pre model 30 and pre model 32. No 100% guarantee but there's a good chance this holster is for a S&W 2" I frame.
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Onamea - That sure is a Barton Special and a very nice one too.
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Here is an S.D. Myres holster, I think for a Chief. It is shown with a
Charter Undercover because my J Frames have concealed hammers.
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