Older Holsters found

Last fall at a Reno gunshow, found and purchased two holsters, actually wife found one. The first is a Eubanks Leather, basket weave and leather laced. The numbers on the back are 89C HSK 6 3/4, Boise, Idaho.
The second is marked Eubanks Pioneer Leather, numbers on back 89 R 6. It is a plain holster, Boise, Idaho. Neither look like a gun has rode in them. I would like to know what pistols/revolvers they were designed. I forgot I had them until this evening when I was putting away a holster in the shoe rack that acquired thanks to another member and his post. Is there a chart for the Idaho Leather, Eubanks-Pioneer, Eubanks holster designations?

Off the top of my head, I'm gonna say the one marked HSK 6 3/4 is for a High Standard, and the one with the R is for a Ruger, and maybe a Single-Six. Got any pictures?

Mark

Well, I went and got a High Standard Military HD and it fit the holster perfectly. A Ruger Wrangler did fit the holster with an "R", but the strap is way short. I will have to find something else. These could become expensive holsters if a guy has to buy guns to fit them.

Igiveup said:

Well, I went and got a High Standard Military HD and it fit the holster perfectly. A Ruger Wrangler did fit the holster with an "R", but the strap is way short. I will have to find something else. These could become expensive holsters if a guy has to buy guns to fit them.

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I laughed at your “expensive holster” comment.

I picked up a really well made modern Kramer holster cheap. It’s so well made I just have to use it, but it’s going to cost me the price of a revolver in the end.

There is a gun show nearby this weekend. I feel like bringing a suitcase full of guns so I can buy some nice holsters for guns rather than buying guns for nice holsters.

Igiveup said:

Last fall at a Reno gunshow, found and purchased two holsters, actually wife found one. The first is a Eubanks Leather, basket weave and leather laced. The numbers on the back are 89C HSK 6 3/4, Boise, Idaho.
The second is marked Eubanks Pioneer Leather, numbers on back 89 R 6. It is a plain holster, Boise, Idaho. Neither look like a gun has rode in them. I would like to know what pistols/revolvers they were designed. I forgot I had them until this evening when I was putting away a holster in the shoe rack that acquired thanks to another member and his post. Is there a chart for the Idaho Leather, Eubanks-Pioneer, Eubanks holster designations?

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If I remember correctly, the Eubanks Pioneer holster will be newer than the just Eubanks one. I think the changeover from Eubanks to Eubanks Pioneer happened in the '50s. I like some Eubanks holsters, and they can be had rather reasonably compared to the big 3.
Larry

boykinlp, you must buy crazyphil's book "Renowned Gun Leather". Page 30 has the history of the Eubanks, Eubanks-Pioneer, and the Idaho Leather holstes. Of course, I have the probably only autographed copy. Since I have talked with Phil and got his book I am overloaded in holsters. Which, of course has led to an increase pistol and revolver collection to fit the holsters. All crazyphil's fault.
I got a Ruger MkII and it sort of fit the R marked holster, but not quite right.

I'm really sorry I'm such a bad influence on you. I kinda broke the
addiction and had a massive sell off. I'm down to just 5 holster per
gun, but I still find myself surfing the bay & looking at the leather.
I hate to tell you, but I believe when you are hooked, there's no way
out.

With all those guns & holsters, you really need to have your wife help
you learn how to post pictures. It all starts with the camera. I have
always used a Samsung WB35F. It was around a hundred bucks when
I got it. After you get a camera and start taking pictures, I will tell you
step by step how to post them if you want. No host necessary. No cost.

Igiveup said:

boykinlp, you must buy crazyphil's book "Renowned Gun Leather". Page 30 has the history of the Eubanks, Eubanks-Pioneer, and the Idaho Leather holstes. Of course, I have the probably only autographed copy.

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I have had my autographed copy of Phil's book for a while now! It is probably where I read the Eubanks information. It is definitely a great reference guide. Collecting beautiful vintage leather holsters has been an enjoyment of mine. It is getting more and more difficult to find "deals" though!
Larry

I will get her moving on the project. Phil, I think she sent you pictures at one time.

Kevin - I don't remember, but my memory is not what it used to be.

I was cleaning off an old chair of my mother's that had been cluttered from years of just dumping stuff on it. Well, I found a 1977 holster chart for Idaho Leather Holster codes. I think it is probably the same for the Eubanks, and Eubanks-Pioneer Leather.

I had already narrowed down my Eubanks Leather HSK as fitting my High Standard Military HD. The exact listing is not on the chart, but close enough. The second from Eubanks-Pioneer marked 89 R 6 is for a Ruger Blackhawk 30-41-44-45 six inch. I just sold a Ruger Blackhawk last year, but not the right one for this holster. Gun show coming up soon.

I am "assuming" that the later 1977 chart is about the same as the original Eubanks, and Eubanks-Pioneer Leather to be "close enough". The 89 number on the holster has to be for the style, such as basket weave and laced. I have had several Idaho Leather holsters custom made, and I think they all have the "89" number on them for the style. I miss Mr. Wetzel, as for sure I would now have ordered another half dozen of his holsters for the grand kids by now.

On the left is a Model 87 by Eubanks,
2nd from left is by Eubanks Pioneer Leather, also Model 87.
3rd from left by Idaho Leather Co. Fpr some reason the
Idaho Leather holster is Model 77.
On the left is marked K88 and a 4 shown with Model 10 4"
Center is marked HS which would be some kind of High Standard,
but it is shown with my 2" Model 10.
3rd is marked Model 77 and 38 44 and is shown with my 4" N Model 29.
4th is another Idaho Leather marked 77 shown with my 2" Charter Undercover.
5th is a Model 820 Eubanks with 7.5" Colt SAA replica.

Hey Kevin in O,
Apologies for getting into an old thread, but since you apparently found The Golden Fleece, aka Idaho Leather Holster Chart, (congrats BTW!), any chance you would do me the favor of looking-up what a Eubanks 89 L is for? Currently have brain fog and can't think of what the L would be, unless Luger ...? Trying to find a holster for a Colt Woodsman Match Target, 4 1/2 (yes, I know ... forgive me it not being a Model 41!!!), and this one looks like it might fit, even tho the model letters aren't correct for a Match Target, apparently. Appreciate any help.

Mike of Pocatello

My chart is Idaho Leather Holster Codes 1977. The styles are not listed, just the codes. The code for the Colt Woodsman Match Target Model is "MTW". I think the "L" you are referring to means "laced", and 89 is the style.

I just got a Eubanks Pioneer marked 89 R 6, and a Eubanks marked 89 C HSK, it being laced and stamped, the former plain. Neither are on the chart, but the HSK fits my HiStandard Military HD, the other I don't know for sure. Hope this helps some or confuses you more.

1977 Idaho catalog and fit codes

(H)SK = High Standard Sport King with the "H" implied?

1977 catalog attached severely truncated to fit pdf size requirement.


IDAHO LEATHER HOLSTER CODES 1977

Astra Constable = AST C
Astra 357 = AST 357

Beretta 32 = B32

Browning High Power = BHP
Browning 380 = B380
Browning Medalist = MED
Browning Challenger = CHAL

Charter Arms Pathfinder = CAP
Charter Arms Undercover = CAU
Charter Arms Bulldog 44 = BD44

Colt Trooper MKIII = CTM3
Official Police MKIII = OPM3
Colt Diamondback = DB
Colt Detective Special Cobra = NDS
Colt Lawman MKIII = CLM
Colt Python = PYT
Colt New Frontier S.A.A = NF
Colt Single Action Army = F
Colt Peacemaker 22 = CSP
Colt New Frontier 22 = CSNF
Colt Woodsman Match Target = MTW
Colt Woodsman Sport Model = SW
Colt Woodsman Target Model = TW
Colt Targetsman = CT
Colt Huntsman = CH
Colt Government = 45A
Colt Commander = CC
Colt Gold Cup = CGC

Dan Wesson Model 14/15 = DW
Dan Wesson Model 15H/VH = DWH

H&R 929 = 929
H&R 925 = 925
H&R 926 = 926
H&R 922 = 922
H&R 732 = 732
H&R 733 = 733
H&R 999 = 999
H&R 949 = 949
H&R 939 = 939
H&R 622 = 622
H&R 940 = 940

Haws Texas Marshal = HTM
Haws Western Marshal = HWM
Haws Silver City Marshal = HSCM

High Standard Victor = HSV
High Standard Military = HSM
High Standard Trophy Military = HSSTM
High Standard Citation = HSSC
High Standard Citation Military = HSSCM
High Standard Sharp Shooter = HSSS
High Standard Sport King = SK
High Standard Sentinel Mark I = HSM1
High Standard Sentinel Mark II = HSM2
High Standard Sentinel Mark III = HSM3
High Standard Sentinel Mark IV = HSM4
High Standard Sentinel High Sierra = D9
High Standard Sentinel Double Nine = D9
High Standard Sentinel Durango = 09
High Standard Sentinel Longhorn = 09

Iver Johnson Cattleman = IJC
Iver Johnson Cattleman Buckhorn = IJCB
Iver Johnson Cattleman Trailblazer = IJCT
Iver Johnson 55A = 1J55A
Iver Johnson 57A = 1J57A
Iver Johnson 67S = 1J67S
Iver Johnson 67V = 1J67V
Iver Johnson Sidewinder = IJS

Llama 22-32-380 = L22, L32, L380
Llama 38-45-9mm = L38, L45, L9mm
Llama Martial = LM

Ruger Standard Auto = RST4, RST6 RA
Ruger Mark I Target T512 = RMI
Ruger Mark I Target T678 = RMI
Ruger Security Six = RSS
Ruger Blackhawk 22 = R6
Ruger Blackhawk 30-41-44-45 = R
Ruger Blackhawk 357 = R357
Ruger Cap & Ball = RC&B

Smith & Wesson Model 10-12-13-64 = MP
Smith & Wesson Model 14-15-67 = K-38
Smith & Wesson Model 17-18 = K-22
Smith & Wesson Model 19-66 = CM
Smith & Wesson Model 25 = 25S
Smith & Wesson Model 27 = 27S
Smith & Wesson Model 28 = HP
Smith & Wesson Model 29 = 29S
Smith & Wesson Model 34 = 34S
Smith & Wesson Model 36-37 = CS
Smith & Wesson Model 39 = 39S
Smith & Wesson Model 40-42 = CS
Smith & Wesson Model 41 = 41S
Smith & Wesson Model 43-51 = KIT
Smith & Wesson Model 48 = K-22
Smith & Wesson Model 38-49 = CS
Smith & Wesson Model 52 = 52S
Smith & Wesson Model 53 = 53S
Smith & Wesson Model 57 = 57S
Smith & Wesson Model 59 = 59S
Smith & Wesson Model 60 = CS
Smith & Wesson Model 61 = 61S

Virginian Single Action = VSA

Walther PP = PP
Walther PPK = PPK
Walther PPK-S = PPK-S
Walther P-38 = P-38

Stoger Luger = SL
Erma Luger = EL
Mauser Luger = ML
Mauser HSC = HSC

Thompson Contender = TC

Igiveup: see here now I just happen to have a Ruger 6" Blackhawk in /45 Colt and could put that holster to good use. Think of the money and time I could save you if you would just ship it my way. 'ell, I'll even pay the shipping charge. Be a good lad there and send It on it's way, my way.

Holster bonanza at Michigan Antique Arms Collecyor show

I landed 5 holsters at the MAAC show this past weekend. I’ll need a couple of posts to show all the photos. Bill The first photo is a Bernd Martin belt that matched my Betnd Martin Speed holster for a 3 1/2” Pre 27. The second photo is a Heiser 738 for a 5” M frame. The last photo is a Heiser 752 also a 6” K frame .

Here are the other holster’s I landed at the MAAC show last weekend.The first photo is Heiser #1722 for Colt auto. Second photo is Heiser #2710E , carved ,laced and spotted for s Colt SAA 2 1/2”. Third photo is Heiser # 2710E carved and spotted for a Colt SAA5 1/2”. Bill

bracebeemer, me thinks you might have been bitten by the holster bug. Those sure look nice.

SG-688, thanks for posting the catalog. That is the same chart I have, but as soon as we go buy more paper for the printer I will copy the whole catalog. As a side note, I don't see the #89 style listed, although it is stamped on both the Eubanks Pioneer and the Eubanks holsters.