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The uniform in my first department did not include a Sam Brown belt to carry your gear, and sergeants strictly enforced uniform regs. That was 1968 and all we had was a revolver, six spare rounds, cuffs & a baton.
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Many LAPD detectives keep their duty gun, mags, cuffs and badge on a thicker outer belt that they throw on over their suit pants when leaving the station. Some even throw a sport coat over it but they really aren’t trying to fool anyone that they are actually concealed.
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08-28-2022, 07:54 AM
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Say what?? 
Maybe a side saddle cowboy with a man bun. On the Hallmark movie channel. Sipping latte. Soy latte.
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I generally carry a 1911 with one extra mag. I've found that carrying a small flashlight is pretty handy as well, so that's more space. I live out in the boonies, so I like to have at least a couple of knives with me, one pocket clip and, if there's room, a sheath knife. The main issue is that with the various placing of the belt loops between clothing manufacturers it's sometimes a pain in the pin feathers to get stuff situated so it's not only at least moderately comfortable but also allows access to the various and sundry junk I have in my pockets. Wranglers aren't too bad about this, but I don't always wear Wranglers..
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Holy cow, if I carried that much stuff, my stomach would push the whole works at my ankles before I took the first step.
I found that Perry suspenders that clip on my belt are the only answer for me and then it’s my EDC only, on the belt.
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Our agency required us to carry concealed, but also issued duty belts, because we also carried a badge on the belt, flashlight, pepper spray, handcuffs, double mag pouch, etc.
The only way to conceal all that “stuff” and still be able to get to it was to wear what I used to call the “armed plainclothes federal officer vest . . .” I think they were sold with a pair of RayBan Aviators . . .
I never wore one, and still managed to carry what I needed to carry and still avoided looking like a Weeble . . .
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Are you referring to the infamous “Shoot Me First” vest that people used to wear?
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Damn, I don’t even wear ONE belt!
Today it was a 6906 in my waistband. Car keys in my pants pocket, cell phone and reading glasses in my shirt pocket. The only reason I’m even carrying the 6906 is because I’m “upping my game” after a less than polite run in with someone who objected strongly to a recent high-profile search warrant and thought I needed to know about it.
I still see no reason for a reload, knife, flashlight, tourniquet, baton, bear spray, slide rule, or ice cream scoop.
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I thought you retired? Be careful out there!!
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When I carry, I carry a spare mag, a knife, my keys/key fob, cell phone and wallet. Less is better. If you ever get into a situation where you need 100 rounds, a machete, a sword, a maglite, your cell phone, a lockpick set, and your edc, you are already screwed.
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I generally carry a 1911 with one extra mag. I've found that carrying a small flashlight is pretty handy as well, so that's more space. I live out in the boonies, so I like to have at least a couple of knives with me, one pocket clip and, if there's room, a sheath knife. The main issue is that with the various placing of the belt loops between clothing manufacturers it's sometimes a pain in the pin feathers to get stuff situated so it's not only at least moderately comfortable but also allows access to the various and sundry junk I have in my pockets. Wranglers aren't too bad about this, but I don't always wear Wranglers..
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I have lived out in the boonies too, and never felt the need to carry a fixed-blade knife on my belt, even though I have a lot of them. On the rare occasion I thought I might need one, I would carry it in a small shoulder bag with stuff I might need after cutting up an animal, like rubber gloves, and a small bottle of water.
I DO carry a SAK and a medium sized Benchmade lock blade in my pockets.
I carry a small lightweight pistol with lightweight ammo in my pocket to free up belt space and to lessen the load as much as possible.
I would like to carry a very small flashlight also, but that would just be too much. Besides, my cell phone already has a light.
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I retired 6 years ago. This guy was upset about current events, and knew where I retired from. I probably can’t say much more without hitting a trip wire.
Its not really the red-faced ones I’m concerned about. Its the sneaky ones.
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pants leg inside boot top- person owns cattle
pants leg worn outside boot top- person does not own cattle
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I've owned horses and cattle but I've always wore pants leg outside of boots. It keeps trash from falling in boots. Larry
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Why not use a small backpack for extra stuff? I like a string backpack for a bottle of water, hand towel, some snacks, whatever., when out walking. Easy on and easy off. Fold up and put it in your pocket if its empty.
While I often wear cargo pants, I don't like loading my pants down too much. Generally carry nothing on my belt but an EDC snubby.
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So far, nobody seems to have noticed. Will the duty belt change that?
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I don’t use a belt. I wear yoga pants and they hold everything nice and tight against my skin.
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No. We. Don't.
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The second belt, not attached to your pants belt and worn below it, does have one advantage: it can sag with the weight of gear and not drag your pants down.
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I’ve noted a few posts where husbands would have their wives carry their gun in the wife’s purse. I knew a few cops did this when we were mandated to be armed off-duty. In addition to being a terrible idea it could get the wife criminally charged if she does not have a carry permit.
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I’ve noted a few posts where husbands would have their wives carry their gun in the wife’s purse. I knew a few cops did this when we were mandated to be armed off-duty. In addition to being a terrible idea it could get the wife criminally charged if she does not have a carry permit.
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Unless you are in a Constitutional carry state. There are at least 25 of them now. 
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Our agency required us to carry concealed, but also issued duty belts, because we also carried a badge on the belt, flashlight, pepper spray, handcuffs, double mag pouch, etc.
The only way to conceal all that “stuff” and still be able to get to it was to wear what I used to call the “armed plainclothes federal officer vest . . .” I think they were sold with a pair of RayBan Aviators . . .
I never wore one, and still managed to carry what I needed to carry and still avoided looking like a Weeble . . .
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Aren't those "armed plainclothes federal officer vest" also referred to as the "shoot me first" vest??
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I would suggest cargo pants with lots of pockets to distribute items off the belt instead of a second one. And wouldn’t items carried on the waist belt cover or interfere with those on a duty belt?
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Oh no, not cargo pants....
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No we don't.
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Aren't those "armed plainclothes federal officer vest" also referred to as the "shoot me first" vest??
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I thought that originated for wearing a photographers vest but not carrying cameras.
I actually wore one to tote my camera gear in the Yucatan, while visiting ruins. Got lotsa pix. Don't believe I've worn it since, thought I was gonna die.
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I remain skeptical of the “shoot me first” vest critique. If it was gonna happen, it woulda happened by now somewhere. I don’t think it has.
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It doesn’t. It’s a corollary to the open carry “shoot me first” school of thought.
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I remain skeptical of the “shoot me first” vest critique. If it was gonna happen, it woulda happened by now somewhere. I don’t think it has.
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Well, I never got shot at wearing one, and never saw anyone get shot at that was wearing one. So there’s that . . .
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