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What is
Sustainable beef?
Mcdonalds says they will use sustainable beef as much as they can, according to availability. Most likely it will come from over seas.
Not trying to turn this into another McD bashing, just wondering what they mean?
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In my eyes, that means it's grass fed on a plot size large enough to grow the grass back faster than the cows can eat it. I have no idea what the industry defines it as.
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Just another.....
Just another buzz word to tell everybody how up to date they are. I suppose they didn't want to call it 'green beef'
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Frankly coming from McDs, im afraid to ask and find out.
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Back about 20-30 years ago Burger King had a problem with meat they imported from Australia. I forget how many thousand tons of frozen burger was actually Kangaroo. That would sustain the beef very well. Ivan
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Relax, at least they didn't say recycled beef.
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Renewable cattle? Perhaps they mean the cattle has to proceate before being slaughtered.  
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Okay, right now, "sustainable beef" is the current "buzz word" in the beef industry, and even the pros can't agree on a concrete definition.
It's kinda like trying to "sew a button on a poached egg." They can't come up with a solid explanation.
However, here's what everybody seems to be agreeable on so far.
Sustainable beef just means that the animal is raised with the most efficiency, therefore using less land, water and natural resources, while still providing many of the essential nutrients we need to thrive.
The industry, essentially, is trying to upgrade the product while still caring for the natural resource.
I know, I know...most conscientious ranchers have always tried to do that. But, like I said, it's the current "buzz word." Sounds impressive, right? 
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"sewing a button on a poached egg."
Mule Packer, that's one I've never heard. That's good, I like it.
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So, we are supposed to believe that cattle are now being raised on smaller acreage, with less grass and less water and naturally they have less flatulence due to their healthier sustainable environment thereby making less methane that punches holes in the ozone layer. Friends, the PC Police are finally riding the range and keeping it 'green' for all the rest of us.
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Beef that eats the trash from out back of Mickey D's.
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I've been eating "sustainable beef" for years, it's called VENISON!
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Back about 20-30 years ago Burger King had a problem with meat they imported from Australia. I forget how many thousand tons of frozen burger was actually Kangaroo. That would sustain the beef very well. Ivan
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Not even the beef industry knows. This is from beefmagazine.com (who knew there was such a thing?):
“Bryan Weech, director of livestock agriculture for World Wildlife Fund (WWF), told The Huffington Post that ‘there is no one, universally accepted definition’ for beef sustainability. Weech also represents the WWF on the Global Roundtable for Sustainable Beef, one of several groups working toward a definition.
“Jude Capper, an adjunct professor of animal sciences at Washington State University, agrees. Moving toward sustainability is easier said than done, she says.
‘There is no doubt that for every restaurant or airline or car company, this is the kind of trendy issue at the moment. Can we say we’re buying any sustainable beef today? No, we can’t. Could we be buying sustainable beef? We might be. What I mean by that is that there are no standards, measures, accountability and traceability to make those claims today.
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A combination of cattle which died of natural causes and Soylent Green?
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Maybe it means cutting some steaks off the cow while
he's still alive.
The said cow regrows area cut off over time.
Would'nt work too well with Ribs though.
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Pretty humorous but it makes me want to avoid McDonalds even more now.
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Uhh... that would be SlimJims. Joe
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Funny that we get cancer and my doctor couldn't tell me what caused it?
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Okay, right now, "sustainable beef" is the current "buzz word" in the beef industry, and even the pros can't agree on a concrete definition.
It's kinda like trying to "sew a button on a poached egg." They can't come up with a solid explanation.
However, here's what everybody seems to be agreeable on so far.
Sustainable beef just means that the animal is raised with the most efficiency, therefore using less land, water and natural resources, while still providing many of the essential nutrients we need to thrive.
The industry, essentially, is trying to upgrade the product while still caring for the natural resource.
I know, I know...most conscientious ranchers have always tried to do that. But, like I said, it's the current "buzz word." Sounds impressive, right? |
Sew a button on a poached egg!!!Now that's FUNNY!
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Uhhh, what's available after the kangaroo runs out?
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Well......
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Hmmm. From my deficient education in these matters, I think we used to call those feed lots. I'm guessing the PC crowd has figured out they need to relabel those stinking things and make them acceptable to those with sensitive feelings. And here I thought they were only used to fatten the poor critter.
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eating at any of those places is kinda like putting one shell in a revolver and spinning the wheel except you don't know until your gut starts rumbling if you lost or not....I am adding another oxymoron to the list..."TRUTH IN ADVERTISING"
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Been my experience that there's very little 'sustenance' in Micky D's beef.
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Dolphin Safe beef did not fly, so they switched it to Sustainable Beef.
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Ivan,
This reminds me of the Welsh fellow who had his restaurant shut down because he was cutting his rabbit pie with horsemeat. "It was only 50-50" he said in his defense... "One rabbit to one horse".
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I think its probably about the same thing as "New and improved!!!"
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We've been munchin' on beef since forever, predating any and all regulation.
to have survived as a food into modern day, it must be sustainable in the first place
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Maybe we only take a leg or two...
Then the government can buy them a bovine prosthesis. I'm sure that the HHS, the EPA or the Ag Department has a program that would work.
Sounds sustainable to me... until we run out of money that is.
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Sustainable beef?
Just means the horse made a life-changing decision right before his demise.
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You fellers are all mistaken. The following true story will illustrate why:
A hunter was driving through the plains of Nebraska when he decided to stop at a farmhouse to ask if he could run his dog on the back forty.
As he was walking up the driveway toward the front door of the house, a pig with three legs caught his eye. It was just hobbling through the grass.
When the farmer answered the door, the fellow first asked about the three legged pig.
"That pig is the most amazing pig in the land, son." The farmer said
"Last year, our house caught fire when we were all asleep and that pig ran in and woke us all up one by one and saved our lives!"
The man was surprised. "That is one special pig" He said.
The farmer replied, "That's not all. Last summer, that pig jumped into the pond and dragged my drowning son to safety. He would have died."
The man was in disbelief at how amazing this pig was. "One question. Why does he have just 3 legs, is it from the fire?" He asked
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Well it only took 30 posts to come up with the right observation
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Funny you should mention that. There was a recent talk show where the host was discussing hunting and the guest said: "I hate hunters and everything they stand for. We should all buy our meat at restaurants and grocery stores, where no animals are harmed in the process." She was dead serious.
Three terms we carnivores should be aware of:
Lean Finely Textured Beef (LFTB)
Pink slime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Transglutaminase aka "Meat Glue"
Transglutaminase - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Soylent Green
Soylent Green - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Two of the three are known to be factual. So far... 
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Which is why I havent consumed anything from them in over a decade--except for their eggs and pancake breakfast. The last one of those was over 3 years ago.
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Now the rest of the story - -
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Google & read the doctrine "agenda 21" - It states that the U.S. standard of living is not "sustainable" for the world's standard (overall average). Things mentioned specifically that the U.S. has used in excess & are not sustainable are personal trans., single family dwellings, fossil fuels, HIGH CONSUMPTION OF MEAT, etc, etc - -
The "greenie movement" in general & the UN in particular have coined the phrase "sustainable development" as a phrase that is supposed to cover all things good "as they see it". Just like the phrase "old growth", it's fun to ask a 'greenie' just how old a tree has to be to be "old growth".
Both terms are beyond definition if you don't accept 'on faith' that they mean 'all things GOOD' -
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Google & read the doctrine "agenda 21" - It states that the U.S. standard of living is not "sustainable" for the world's standard (overall average). Things mentioned specifically that the U.S. has used in excess & are not sustainable are personal trans., single family dwellings, fossil fuels, HIGH CONSUMPTION OF MEAT, etc, etc - -
The "greenie movement" in general & the UN in particular have coined the phrase "sustainable development" as a phrase that is supposed to cover all things good "as they see it". Just like the phrase "old growth", it's fun to ask a 'greenie' just how old a tree has to be to be "old growth".
Both terms are beyond definition if you don't accept 'on faith' that they mean 'all things GOOD' -
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yeah I'm well aware of the age old phenomena of pencil pushers justifying their existence by telling Eskimos how to build igloos
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Okay, right now, "sustainable beef" is the current "buzz word" in the beef industry, and even the pros can't agree on a concrete definition.
It's kinda like trying to "sew a button on a poached egg." They can't come up with a solid explanation.
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Sustainable beef just means that the animal is raised with the most efficiency, therefore using less land, water and natural resources, while still providing many of the essential nutrients we need to thrive.
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OK, thanks.
I think I got it.
You're saying it means to raise cows in windmills, right?
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