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Old 11-09-2009, 10:55 PM
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I am not sure if this is the forum to post this in so will also try another forum as well. I am trying to find out what the law might be for C&R guns, specifically old revolvers. I hope I explain myself well.

I have a C&R FFL and have purchased several Smith and Wesson Victory Model Revolvers at Mass Gun Shows, I would like to get a S&W 1917 Army, made in 1918 on GunBroker but it is not on the approved list, for that matter there are not S&W Victory Models on the State approved list, does that mean unless they were in the state before 1994 I cannot purchase them on my C&R? Massachusetts has a restriction that unless a firearm is on the state approved list or was owned in the state before 1994 (?) you cannot buy it from a FFL.

Does the Federal FFL law as far as C&R guns mean that I can, or cannot, buy a C&R S&W 1917 Army Revolver from a dealer in another state, while I am living here in Mass? Does Mass law supersede Federal law?

Also the C&R regs say I can sell a gun to a resident of the state I live in that is legally able to own a gun, but that hold true for the state of Mass?
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Many FFL's do send C&R handguns into MA from out of state to FFL's inside MA with the idea that they are exempt from the drop test provisions,,but my experience has been to the contrary.

There is a provision in the At/Gen Handgun Laws to allow for submitting a handgun not on the list for testing (safety and drop test).
You pay the cost of the tests and if it fails, you loose your $$ and you don't get to send the firearm into MA. If it does pass, it is only that one specific handgun that gets to go to MA, not every one just like it.

I've never been advised of any exemption for C&R handguns in their law. I've contacted both the State At/Gen
& the Mass SP.
As far as I can find in my own research of their laws,,'C&R' doesn't exist in the handgun provisions.., but I could be wrong of course..
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That is my concern, the drop test is only for handguns since 1994, according to the law, any handgun made before 1994 had to have been owned in the state of Massachusetts and have documentation to that effect.
That basically limits us to only those guns already here and with documentation.

What I am trying to determine is whether a C&R FFL allows you to buy a handgun that wasn't already in Mass on your federal license, although you would not be able to sell it to a Mass Resident only to an FFL or to an FFL in another state.

Also I am trying to determine whether C&R handguns bought on my C&R FFL need to be registered with the state or only in the bound book. Mass itself requires registration of all guns handguns rifles and shotguns.
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I just talked to a large dealer here in Mass, and I was wrong about the dates, it is for Used Firearms before Oct 1998. They have to be show documentation that they were owned or under a dealers license before Oct 1998 or they cannot be purchased by a Mass Resident. MGL c140

However the C&R, per the dealer, is a FFL and can buy firearms interstate that were not here before Oct 1998, but they cannot be sold to a private citizen due to the law stated above, also in Mass a C&R cannot sell to a private party unless you have a dealers license issued by Mass, so you have to go to a 01 FFL, but even they cannot sell prohibited firearms as stated above.

They said that certain firearms are manufactured by a very large company located in Massachusetts and therefore are under that dealers license in Mass before being sold elsewhere, so I am lucky since I am specializing in their victory revolvers. But at least I could add an Enfield No 2 revolver or a Colt if I wanted to, I just can't sell it to a Mass resident.
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