IS THERE A CONNECTION BETWEEN CZ & DAN WESSON?

trailblazer02 · Dec 19, 2009

i noticed some auctions on GB for "CZ Dan Wesson" 1911s & wondered what the connection is.

is CZ & Dan Wesson the same brand, owned by the same company or just a coincidence?

thanx,
trailblazer

RogueJSK · Dec 19, 2009

CZ is the parent company. They purchased Dan Wesson back in 2005.

http://cz-usa.com/about-dan-wesson/

trailblazer02 · Dec 19, 2009

RogueJSK said:
CZ is the parent company. They purchased Dan Wesson back in 2005.

CZ-USA -> About Dan Wesson

thanx for responding. now, what about quality of CZ guns?

i've read some about them & the comments seem favorable.

are Wesson's made in the Czeck republic also?

Rule3 · Dec 19, 2009

trailblazer02 said:
thanx for responding. now, what about quality of CZ guns?

i've read some about them & the comments seem favorable.

are Wesson's made in the Czeck republic also?

CZ has been making guns for a looooong time. IMO they are one of the best guns around. Their quality is excellent and probably the best bang for the buck.

Dan Wesson I believe is made in the US. My 1911 Pointman 7 was made stamped NY.

Can't go wrong with either

RogueJSK · Dec 19, 2009

trailblazer02 said:
thanx for responding. now, what about quality of CZ guns?

i've read some about them & the comments seem favorable.

are Wesson's made in the Czeck republic also?

No. Dan Wesson has their own manufacturing facility in the US. Some of the CZ guns made since 2005 are made at the same US facility as well.

CZ handguns have been around for decades, and are solid, reliable guns. The CZ-75, its derivatives, and clones were, and still are, widely used around the world by military and police forces. CZ is not quite at the same quality level as the higher-end manufacturers like HK and Sig, but equivalent to the mid-range manufactureres like S&W, Springfield, and Glock, and better than the lower-end manufactureres like Bersa, Taurus, and Ruger.

CZ has many different models in various sizes and configurations to fit most needs. They also tend to sell for slightly less than other guns in their class, so you get a lot of bang for your buck.

Dan Wesson, specifically, is one of the better choices for a semi-custom 1911. They're great guns at a surprisingly low price point, considering all the custom features they include.

mkk41 · Dec 19, 2009

Czech design & manufacturing , especially arms , has always been of the highest quality and craftsmanship. They were making '98 Mausers long before WWII. Though largely unknown in the US prior to the fall of the Soviet Union , Czech-made Skoda machine tools are some of the best. It's been said the Czech manufacturing base is one of the reasons the Germans invaded and captured it so early.

Iggy · Dec 19, 2009

As has been stated, CZ bought DW in order to get into the 1911 market.

Dan Wessons are made in NY by about 12 to 15 craftsmen that are danged proud of their product.
Their guns have improved and continue to do so because CZ has the muscle to obtain better quality parts, which wasn't always the case back in the old days.

They build nice guns and stand behind them.

One of the best bangs for the buck around.

trailblazer02 · Dec 19, 2009

as usual, thank you all....i may be in the market for a CZ.

t'blazer

G-Mac · Dec 19, 2009

RogueJSK said:
....and better than the lower-end manufactureres like Bersa, Taurus, and Ruger.

My GP-100, 10/22's, and Ruger .22 auto pistols are now highly offended!

The Last Standing Knight · Dec 19, 2009

I'm glad to hear Dan Wesson's quality has improved.

I fired a friend's Dan Wesson 357 magnum 6 inch equivelent to a Smith and Wesson M19. The cylinder would bind repeatedly. My pal used +p 38 Special HP's primarily and the frame cracked during firing.

A company I worked for issued Dan Wesson 357's (same model) with 4" tubes. They were purchased new and only used 38 spl RN 158's and even brand new, I wouldn't have trusted my life to one.

Joni_Lynn · Dec 19, 2009

I read that next years DW 1911's will be of even higher quality. I think I saw that forged frames are on the way.
The ones I've handled seem quite nice for the price.

Sprefix · Dec 19, 2009

CZ and Dan Wesson......Thumbs up!!!!

At first, I was bummed by the merger/acquisition. Then, I thought about the quality of CZ's from way back (i.e. CZ 75). I think they compliment each other. I have a C-Bob in 10MM that is Spectacular!! It has been massaged as I run it hard and fast. I've shot a few others and have had no complaints. I would definitely recommend a Dan Wesson/CZ..............,And I own a few "higher-end" 1911's. Bottom line is John Moses Browning--( All face South and bow!!)--would be proud of his product and what Dan Wesson/CZ has done with it if he were here today!! JMO Sprefix

gr8AmericanBash · Dec 19, 2009

G-Mac said:
My GP-100, 10/22's, and Ruger .22 auto pistols are now highly offended!

Yeah I got a good laugh out of that, too.

Moonman · Dec 20, 2009

I have a CZ Dan Wesson Bobtail Commander for carry, it's one beauitful piece and I love it. I may add a 5" 1911 when the new units come out.

mm6mm6 · Dec 20, 2009

I recommend Dan Wesson 1911's as absolute top quality. My CBob is astounding. It looks awesome and it shoots even better.

The current Dan Wesson company has very little to do with the company that made revolvers a few decades ago.

alphabrace · Dec 20, 2009

Dan Wesson 40 cal 1911

I'm looking for a 40 cal 1911 style and I think DW makes one. I would look first at a Smith but they don't make a 40 cal in the 1911. If anyone has a 40 cal DW I would like to hear how you like it, if It is ok with the thread owner. Thanks!

tallpaul · Dec 20, 2009

The Last Standing Knight said:
I fired a friend's Dan Wesson 357 magnum 6 inch equivelent to a Smith and Wesson M19. The cylinder would bind repeatedly. My pal used +p 38 Special HP's primarily and the frame cracked during firing.

A company I worked for issued Dan Wesson 357's (same model) with 4" tubes. They were purchased new and only used 38 spl RN 158's and even brand new, I wouldn't have trusted my life to one.

Sounds like folk who did not know what they were doing or had...

I have had Dan Wesson .357's for years and one of the features was the ability to swap out barrells on most of the models. One of the things that ya needed to do was to make sure the cylinder gap was set correctly. Too little and binding was or could be an issue...

As far as "cracking" the frame- I doubt it personally and have never heard of it. The Dan Wessons were heavy loaded and dominant in the game of metallic silhouetteld have no issues defending or trusting my life to my Dan Wesson .357's if they were adjusted properly by someone with a pay grade higher than a drunk monkey or mall ninja...

oh and BTW the DW 357's were not equivalent to a model 19 - they are quite a bit sturdier...

Kanewpadle · Dec 20, 2009

On of the best kept secrets in the 1911 market. If you want one, hurry. I hear that prices are going up on their entire line.

Here's mine. A little dirty. Just got back from the range.

R. G. Amos · Dec 20, 2009

I have some experience with CZ 75 pistols going back to the painted ones selling for around $800 - $900 in the mid to early 1980's. I have never seen one that failed to function, but their workmanship is inconsistent. Some display evidence of poor barrel, slide machining while others are comparable to the currently produced Rugers. These are, after all, military pistols not made for the fit& finish crowd. If you buy one, buy one with the normal trigger assembly.

Kanewpadle · Dec 21, 2009

R. G. Amos said:
I have some experience with CZ 75 pistols going back to the painted ones selling for around $800 - $900 in the mid to early 1980's. I have never seen one that failed to function, but their workmanship is inconsistent. Some display evidence of poor barrel, slide machining while others are comparable to the currently produced Rugers. These are, after all, military pistols not made for the fit& finish crowd. If you buy one, buy one with the normal trigger assembly.

You need to take a REAL close look at any of Dan Wesson's current production 1911's. You might be pleasantly surprised.

IS THERE A CONNECTION BETWEEN CZ & DAN WESSON?

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