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mkk41
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Why would ya want FMJ bullets?
Minimal damage to pelts I suppose.
Minimal damage to pelts I suppose.
deadin
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Didn't prisons issue 30/30's to the guards at one time??
Andy Griffith
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I bought a box FMJ .30-30 at a show a while back- it is much, much newer than your box but still Remington brand.
I was told in the ammo section that it was used as a prison guard/security/law enforcement load of it's day. It is seldom seen today.
I do wonder why no companies load this today, as I think it would sell to shooters and people that use .30-30 carbines for uses other than hunting- after all, it is very versatile.
I was told in the ammo section that it was used as a prison guard/security/law enforcement load of it's day. It is seldom seen today.
I do wonder why no companies load this today, as I think it would sell to shooters and people that use .30-30 carbines for uses other than hunting- after all, it is very versatile.
Sebago Son
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Neat Stuff Lee!
I recently found three boxes of .35 Remington from the same era loaded with the old 200 Grn. "Mushroom Points".....
... took me back more than 40 years to the days in the Adirondack deer camps of my youth. My Dad used to hunt with a Remington Model 8 in .35 and these rounds would never jam like softpoints would, even if you ran them through the action several times....
They also are quite effective on white tail deer.
I gave one of the boxes to my Dad, now 86, and his eyes lit up.... "Man," he said, ".. this stuff is getting pretty hard to find!"
I recently found three boxes of .35 Remington from the same era loaded with the old 200 Grn. "Mushroom Points".....
... took me back more than 40 years to the days in the Adirondack deer camps of my youth. My Dad used to hunt with a Remington Model 8 in .35 and these rounds would never jam like softpoints would, even if you ran them through the action several times....
They also are quite effective on white tail deer.
I gave one of the boxes to my Dad, now 86, and his eyes lit up.... "Man," he said, ".. this stuff is getting pretty hard to find!"
mkk41
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Little posts in the hollow , just like Hydra-Shoks!
Military load?
Left over from when Mr. Lee rode with Teddy and the Rough Riders?
Left over from when Mr. Lee rode with Teddy and the Rough Riders?
Sebago Son
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1,800 Model 94 carbines were sold to the U.S. armed forces during WWI. These carried “U.S.” and ordnance “flaming bomb” stamps. Most were used for stateside guard duty, but at least one is reported to have made it overseas for use in the war. These number among the rarest U.S. martial arms today. A few were made for the home front war effort in 1942, as well. I wonder if this FMJ ammo was made for these rifles?
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mkk41
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That did come to mind , but I would think ammo for the military would be packaged in the usual plain brown or white cartons with military designation info.
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I remember seeing it advertised that way.
I would imagine fur trappers used it, then switched back to SP for trekking/hunting.
It has nothing to do with military use.
gregintenn
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How old are you, Lee?
Probably elephant loads.
HE, that is some very interesting ammo. I don't believe I have ever seen any .30-30 FMJ ammo. I do however have some .30 Rem. fmj in a box like that.
I guess it shouldn't be too surprising because in that era these calibers were what .223 and .308 are to today's shooters and there is a place for different types of loads.
I guess it shouldn't be too surprising because in that era these calibers were what .223 and .308 are to today's shooters and there is a place for different types of loads.
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I like the mushroom bullets. I would buy those if they were available. No nose deformation when loading, if you eject them from non use I bet they don't look a bit different. RN .30-30 had to be a real nitch use ammo unless the guess about prisons is right. Would police have used that at the same time? I know I have heard about rural patrolmen using 1894's.
Yup and this ammo is more than 50 years old...
Hydra-Shoks have been over drinking age for quite a while, too. Let's face it, a lot of us are getting close to old.
Sebago Son
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"Mushroom Point"
(Sorry about the blatant thread drift Lee...)
Bob about 15 years ago Remington brought back the Mushroom Point in their .30-30 loadings only. It's stock number R30303. They call it their "Hollow Point" and it's only available in the 170 grain weight. Velocity is the same as their 170 grain Softpoint load; IE: 2,200 fps (nominal).
Able has it for about $23 a box. Remington Centerfire Rifle Cartridges R30303, 30-30 Winchester, Core-Lokt Hollow Point, 170 GR, 2200
This load works pretty well on white tails. My youngest son has killed have a dozen deer (including his first) with this load. Sadly, Remington has not seen fit to bring back the "Mushroom Point" for the .35 caliber rounds. Aside from the .35 Remington, I would think it would be great in the .358 WCF and .356.
Drew
(Sorry about the blatant thread drift Lee...)
Bob about 15 years ago Remington brought back the Mushroom Point in their .30-30 loadings only. It's stock number R30303. They call it their "Hollow Point" and it's only available in the 170 grain weight. Velocity is the same as their 170 grain Softpoint load; IE: 2,200 fps (nominal).
Able has it for about $23 a box. Remington Centerfire Rifle Cartridges R30303, 30-30 Winchester, Core-Lokt Hollow Point, 170 GR, 2200
This load works pretty well on white tails. My youngest son has killed have a dozen deer (including his first) with this load. Sadly, Remington has not seen fit to bring back the "Mushroom Point" for the .35 caliber rounds. Aside from the .35 Remington, I would think it would be great in the .358 WCF and .356.
Drew
BigRich315
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I've never heard or even dreamed of such a load. It really must be a niche round, aside from the fur trapper theory I can't really think of any areas that a FMJ .30-30 would come in handy.
Nice find.
I've never heard or even dreamed of such a load. It really must be a niche round, aside from the fur trapper theory I can't really think of any areas that a FMJ .30-30 would come in handy.Nice find.
