Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > General Topics > The Lounge

The Lounge A Catch-All Area for NON-GUN topics.
PUT GUN TOPICS in the GUN FORUMS.
Keep it Family Friendly. See The Rules for Banned Topics!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-07-2011, 09:36 PM
Smithhound's Avatar
Smithhound Smithhound is offline
US Veteran
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SE Tennessee
Posts: 1,192
Likes: 0
Liked 308 Times in 108 Posts
Default Brother in Law has a new pet

I recieved these pics the other day, I've been hearing about this little lady for awhile but just got the proof. The first time she was spotted he was grilling chicken, looked over as she walked out, thin and obviously had just welped. He ended up leaving some scraps for her. After that a little at a time he's got her and the kits to where they are coming up on the deck while they are out there every evening.
I know, and have tried to tell him, that this isn't a great idea, I've explained about the food/human association but to be honest if this happened to me I'd probably be tempted to do the same thing.
I did recommend that he see a vet and see if he can get some rabies vaccine in a pill form (if they even make it) to mix with the food he's giving them, hopefully he will. I worry that it won't be his deck they decide to trot up on, some folks get a little funny about things like that, and yes I've explained about the possibility of someone getting bit.
Try telling your brother in law what to do, better luck at it than I.



__________________
Got a Phd from Hard Knocks U
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-07-2011, 10:16 PM
gunnut44 gunnut44 is offline
Member
Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: South West Suburbs IL
Posts: 1,348
Likes: 82
Liked 108 Times in 49 Posts
Default

Well your brother in law has friends for life! They are really cool looking animals. We have foxes at work and up here the pups are about a month or so old now they roam around and play all day pretty cool to watch and I work at a Exxon oil refinery that's the funny part. They are fed really well but they will spook you when you lift your welding hood up they are looking at you. We can get as close as two feet but thats about it they take the food and go feed their pups. Thats why gas prices are so high too busy feeding and watching the foxes!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-07-2011, 10:16 PM
27145 27145 is offline
Member
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 956
Likes: 0
Liked 33 Times in 13 Posts
Default

Sorry I am a city boy. What is it?



As soon as I posted I got the answer. Can they be domesticated?
__________________
Fidelis Ad Mortem
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-07-2011, 10:26 PM
m1gunner m1gunner is offline
US Veteran
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: middle Ga.
Posts: 2,522
Likes: 211
Liked 610 Times in 301 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 27145 View Post
Can they be domesticated?
Nope.

They will gladly eat your house cat, chickens, geese, rabbits, or small dogs.

They spread diseases common to canines and RABIES (common to most mammals). Extremely bad idea to let these things get familiar with humans. Around this farm, those that want to hang around the barnyard are terminated with extreme prejudice.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-07-2011, 10:38 PM
bamabiker bamabiker is offline
Member
Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Near Birmingham
Posts: 7,194
Likes: 4,895
Liked 8,262 Times in 2,179 Posts
Default

Nice deck.
I don't do wild animals.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-07-2011, 10:43 PM
27145 27145 is offline
Member
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 956
Likes: 0
Liked 33 Times in 13 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by m1gunner View Post
Nope.

They will gladly eat your house cat, chickens, geese, rabbits, or small dogs.

They spread diseases common to canines and RABIES (common to most mammals). Extremely bad idea to let these things get familiar with humans. Around this farm, those that want to hang around the barnyard are terminated with extreme prejudice.
Thanks for the education. This is why i really enjoy this forum. Why is it that wolves can be domesticated?
__________________
Fidelis Ad Mortem
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-07-2011, 10:45 PM
WR Moore WR Moore is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,748
Likes: 1,887
Liked 5,527 Times in 2,788 Posts
Default

Couple of months back there was a National Geographic article about domesticating foxes. Takes a couple of generations IIRC. The real point of the article was tracking genetic changes that seem to be the result of domestication. These take about 4 generations to show up and include the ears taking much longer to stand up and differences in the structure of the tail.

A vixen was raising 2 kits on some property we own earlier this year. I like watching them-at a couple of hundred yards. She was semi-trained a couple of years ago. If she heard one shot, she came running to check the ground hog holes for dinner.

Last edited by WR Moore; 07-07-2011 at 10:48 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-07-2011, 10:52 PM
m1gunner m1gunner is offline
US Veteran
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: middle Ga.
Posts: 2,522
Likes: 211
Liked 610 Times in 301 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 27145 View Post
Thanks for the education. This is why i really enjoy this forum. Why is it that wolves can be domesticated?
A wild wolf can't be domesticated either. You can captive breed (or cross breed with domestic stock) and after several generations, you will get a "domesticated" wolf.

Just don't leave one to babysit your grand baby.........
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-07-2011, 10:55 PM
cjw3 cjw3 is offline
Member
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Georgia
Posts: 858
Likes: 14
Liked 82 Times in 52 Posts
Default

Foxes are nocturnal; when they are observed in the daytime, it MAY be an indication of some disease, rabies included.

Regardless, it is not a good practice to get them habituated to humans. I retired from our state wildlife agency and knew of several similar cases that resulted in injury to the people involved. The animal also had to be destroyed and checked for rabies.

Relatives can be hard to get things across to at times, so good luck. Hope nothing goes wrong there, but it can easily do so in a hurry.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-07-2011, 10:58 PM
27145 27145 is offline
Member
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 956
Likes: 0
Liked 33 Times in 13 Posts
Default

I have seen domesticated wolves in NYC, I don't know how far they are removed by generation from the wild. I definitely side with you M1 a predator is a predator. I love animals, but sometimes you just have to keep your distance and know your place.

I have to say that is a cool photo though.
__________________
Fidelis Ad Mortem
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-07-2011, 11:00 PM
27145 27145 is offline
Member
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 956
Likes: 0
Liked 33 Times in 13 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cjw3 View Post
Foxes are nocturnal; when they are observed in the daytime, it MAY be an indication of some disease, rabies included.
Wow, I hadn't even thought of that. Good warning.
__________________
Fidelis Ad Mortem
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-08-2011, 07:16 AM
Iggy's Avatar
Iggy Iggy is offline
Member
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 10,425
Likes: 10,488
Liked 28,286 Times in 5,282 Posts
Default

Training them not to fear humans will no doubt lead to an early demise.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-08-2011, 09:09 AM
Memphis Memphis is offline
Member
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Eads, Tn, Unites State
Posts: 1,118
Likes: 2,932
Liked 885 Times in 283 Posts
Default

What a timely post. We have 3 foxes here on the grounds at FedEx in Memphis. It appears to be a female and two kits. I get to work early, usually about 0530 and the are out frolicking in our courtyard. We have a small stand of woods but we are in the middle of the city directly accross from Mem International airport. The foxes are apparently being fed by our employees as they are NOT scared around humans. A lot of the women up here are frightened and have called security about having them removed. They in turn have contacted animal control and I believe they are trying to trap them and relocate them. It is a strange feeling. Once I get out of my vehicle and head up to the building I look behind me and they will get directly on the walkway, about 29-30 yards back and start following me. I guess they are hoping for a handout. But I do not feed them. I suppose as with all wild animals we are encroaching on their habitat.

Roger
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-08-2011, 09:29 AM
handejector's Avatar
handejector handejector is offline
Administrator
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 25,196
Likes: 9,084
Liked 48,979 Times in 9,318 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by m1gunner View Post
Nope.

They will gladly eat your house cat, chickens, geese, rabbits, or small dogs.

They spread diseases common to canines and RABIES (common to most mammals). Extremely bad idea to let these things get familiar with humans. Around this farm, those that want to hang around the barnyard are terminated with extreme prejudice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjw3 View Post
Foxes are nocturnal; when they are observed in the daytime, it MAY be an indication of some disease, rabies included.

Regardless, it is not a good practice to get them habituated to humans. I retired from our state wildlife agency and knew of several similar cases that resulted in injury to the people involved. The animal also had to be destroyed and checked for rabies.

Relatives can be hard to get things across to at times, so good luck. Hope nothing goes wrong there, but it can easily do so in a hurry.
What they said.
__________________
Regards,
Lee Jarrett
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-08-2011, 11:12 AM
BE Mike's Avatar
BE Mike BE Mike is offline
Member
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Indiana
Posts: 3,611
Likes: 2,314
Liked 3,546 Times in 1,504 Posts
Default

DON'T FEED THE ANIMALS!
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-08-2011, 03:10 PM
Lt JL Lt JL is offline
Member
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,965
Likes: 3,954
Liked 2,804 Times in 998 Posts
Default

Sorry, but fox and daylight=problem, So, BANG. Would they feed a coyote?

Last edited by Lt JL; 07-08-2011 at 03:11 PM. Reason: addition.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-08-2011, 04:00 PM
tennexplorer's Avatar
tennexplorer tennexplorer is offline
US Veteran
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Memphis, TN, USA
Posts: 1,560
Likes: 1,630
Liked 1,677 Times in 442 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
What a timely post. We have 3 foxes here on the grounds at FedEx in Memphis. It appears to be a female and two kits. I get to work early, usually about 0530 and the are out frolicking in our courtyard. We have a small stand of woods but we are in the middle of the city directly accross from Mem International airport. The foxes are apparently being fed by our employees as they are NOT scared around humans. A lot of the women up here are frightened and have called security about having them removed. They in turn have contacted animal control and I believe they are trying to trap them and relocate them. It is a strange feeling. Once I get out of my vehicle and head up to the building I look behind me and they will get directly on the walkway, about 29-30 yards back and start following me. I guess they are hoping for a handout. But I do not feed them. I suppose as with all wild animals we are encroaching on their habitat.

Roger
"animal control"?! Heck, Roger, around here all animal control is interested in is selling stolen pit bulls to gang bangers.
__________________
S&WCA 1729
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-08-2011, 10:51 PM
Smithhound's Avatar
Smithhound Smithhound is offline
US Veteran
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SE Tennessee
Posts: 1,192
Likes: 0
Liked 308 Times in 108 Posts
Default

As I said I've told him everything you all have stated, one can only do so much, that's why I suggested to him to see about some rabies vaccine that can be put into the food he's feeding them.
As i also said, if I had a family of foxes on my property I would be tempted to make friends with them as well, bad idea I know, but kinda irresistable at the same time. They are good looking, curious little animals.
I was toldby my BIL that the only time they do come around is very early morning or very late in the day, but once they know food is available, and they don't have to risk alot to obtain it I'm sure they'll come around midday.
I tried to tame a groundhog once, no luck, that thing was just onery. Ugly too.
RD
__________________
Got a Phd from Hard Knocks U
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-09-2011, 12:48 AM
oldRoger oldRoger is offline
US Veteran
Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet Brother in Law has a new pet  
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Citrus County, Florida
Posts: 2,072
Likes: 21
Liked 218 Times in 110 Posts
Default distemper

In this part of FL canine distemper is quite common in Foxes. Unfortunately it is easily spread.
__________________
Ipsis Rebus Dictantitbus
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Big Brother getting a bit too big?? inspcalahan The Lounge 26 12-20-2015 11:35 AM
Big Brother and smaller brother... cwo4uscgret Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics 4 09-22-2014 11:18 AM
Big brother and little brother blkned Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 3 05-27-2014 08:22 PM
Thanks brother!! Jgray1085 Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 3 02-18-2013 01:38 AM
Birthdays of big brother + little brother Hyperbiker S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 4 10-26-2009 04:07 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:13 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)