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A ****** pic of my 870 with tiger stripe birch stock.
Fancy enough?

Good Lord!!!! how old is that firewood?????

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two years old

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I have never seen birch look so beautiful. That is amazing. Maybe I need to take a second look at that Marlin 336's birch...

Is that Remington Birch?

Mine is Remington Maple

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Bush, is that maple factory? That looks fantastic. Really shows off the grain better than a dark walnut does.

Those 2 should keep the rif-raf outta your BBQ.

Factory Maple that I refinished with Tru-Oil

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here's a couple of possibilities:





of course, if it's Texas BBQ, this one is marked "Adams Express Company"

Hoping to get a couple steaks medium rare before the rain starts...

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Around here, if you bring a riot gun to the BBQ, nobody says anything
about it.

Tends to cut down on invites though.

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Don't be opening the door. low and slow. Rem 870, Mossberg marine cote and Winchester 1200 riot

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Hey! That shotgun looks vaguely familiar.

gota love them shot guns, they will bring peace to confusion! i love the mod 12 winchesters! i have two

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I would take pics of mine, but the neighbors are in their back yard. They're not gun people and would likely call the police if I started stacking shotguns on the grill.

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I'm a little surprised to see many pump guns still in use. I figured everybody but me had acquired a fancy, tacticool auto-loader by now. But then, this is the place where folks who appreciate Registered Magnums and M&Ps hang out.

Here's mine.

Think of a pump action as being the shotgun equivalent of a revolver. BANG, rotate the cylinder, BANG, etc. Fewer moving parts, fewer things to possibly go wrong. Just like a revolver vs semi-auto.

Still my favorite Tacticool auto...

Auto 5 that is...

Both are the first choice of discerning gentlemen.

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Here is the original Ithaca stock and the one I got off the internet after I refinished the wood but before I stained the ivory:



Here is the stock of the 870 before I refinished it:

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To make a BBQ shotgun you first take an unmolested US issue Model 12 riot gun and make a few small changes. Add a Weaver choke, recoil pad, grip cap and a beavertail forearm and you checker and refinish the stock over the original WB cartouche and you end up with a Bubba BBQ special.

Tastefully done, but except for Bubba I think we would all prefer to see it in its original glory.

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I like the Ithica 37 feather light.

My LGS has that gun in the rack right now. I think the wood furniture on a "tactical" shotgun is the ultmate cool. Worthy of any BBQ IMO.

I have no idea as to when the government got rid of these weapons, as I bought it a couple of years ago. This one was an originally a riot gun and then I believe it was converted to a trench gun when arsenal did the rework. I assume it was then assigned duty at the Nevada Test site…. Even though the previous owner put an aftermarket butt stock on it, I had to have it and paid dearly Still need a swivel for the bayonet lug

Not riot guns, but perhaps acceptable in polite company. The first is a 28 gauge Darne R 11 from the '70s; the second is a 12 gauge Charlin, 'one rabbit' grade, from the '30s.

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Cyrano

Beautiful and graceful shotguns, very refined.

Suitable for formal balls and such I would say.

I have never seen that action type before. What is it called?

Thanks for sharing.

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Nice pair of french guns Cyrano. I've had the pleasure of playing with a few Darne's in the field, and they are great handling guns. I love the action, very fast to extract and reload.

My bbq is too hot right now to put a shotgun on it.

Might make it go "BANG" and ruin the hamburgers!

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That Ithaca is mighty fine. I always liked the bottom ejection.

I was thinking that Ithaca would make a great "school gun" because of that huge eraser mounted on it's butt!! ; )

I don't know if they'd let me in with this one...
But I'd like to think so...especially if I have a nice tooled bandelero full of nickel-plated solid brass shells.

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These kinds of shotguns are called 'sliding breech' shotguns. They were big in France, and I think only were made in France. I've heard of several makers but only have seen Darne, Charlin and Delalle. I'd never heard of Delalle so queried the French shotgun forum: Welcome to GournetUSA/DarneUSA Forum. They'd never heard of it either. The Darne and Charlin are made differently: the Charlin locks on a toggle, like a Luger. The Darne has a boss coming back out of the breech end of the barrel. It has a hole in the bottom, and a part in the breech enters that hole, locking the barrel and breech together.

Darne bought out Charlin in the '60s, I think. Darne itself went bankrupt in the '80s, and their chief engineer, Paul Bruchet, bought the material assets of the company. He didn't have the resources to buy the name too, so he built some using his own name. They're just as good as the rest of the Darnes, and that's very good indeed. Much scarcer, too. He finally got enough to buy the name and Darnes have been built since that date. He died in 2010, and his son, Hervé, is running the company now. If you want some eye candy, see their catalog: Darne France le site officiel. The higher grades are really eye-popping. Unfortunately the English catalog is just a little better than my written French would be. There's a price list in the catalog; better not look at that. They also make double rifles; calibers 8X57JRS, 9.3X74R and 375 H&H. I don't know if the latter is belted or flanged. There's also a line of superposed, of conventional design. Most of their guns now are made to order; I don't think they have any in stock.

Hey Sax, i have a very similar stretchy shell-carrier on one of my scatterguns (a mossberg), and a friend recently pointed out a trick to me that has worked great and saved me some annoyance. If you unscrew the buttpad enough to get it loose, you can tuck a small portion of the rear of the shell-saddle between the stock and the buttpad and tighten it up real good. makes the saddle stay put instead of sliding forward, it works great for me


This is a great thread! I've loved the photos, I'll take some of my model 12 winny tomorrow to contribute!

Why carry a pump? A true story:

Those of you who have served at Ft Ord in California will remember Stillwell Hall, the enlisted men's club on the beach. In the 70's, Taxis were only 25 cents but the drivers didn't want to come out all that way. So, you either had to try to cram into a cab, walk back several miles (maybe chancing a shortcut through BOQ) or hop the fence, run across Highway 1, hop the fence again, and sneak through the Quartermaster Area (where the railroad cars unloaded). The last was the shortest way back to my company. However, the Army was paranoid about losing M-16's and M-79's, so the cars were pretty well guarded.

My squad leader and I were teaching the kids to drink tequila (there being a shortage of mezcal on base) and time came to leave. We (3 or 4 of us) decided to hop the fence. About halfway through the railroad cars, we heard someone say
" Halt, I said HALT" and rack a pump shotgun. It was the coldest sound I ever heard! It was someone doing guard duty. Turned out he was a buddy of my friend and he let us go (even pointed out the direction where the OD was, so we went the other way). But when that pump was racked, we FROZE!

I've heard lions roar, pumas scream at night in the chaparral, jaguars cough at dusk in the jungles of Central America, rattlesnakes in the dark of the moon and many other things but the racking of a pump and the tic-tac-toe of a Colt SAA are the two things you DO NOT want to hear in the dark.

Not sure if this qualifies, but it's the closest thing I have to a BBQ-worthy scattergun. I had to ask the clerk to double check for me, when he said that the serial # indicated it was manufactured in 1916! I had already been checking it out for an hour and at that point had paid for it, and couldn't believe it was that old! It feels and looks like it was made in the 1970s, I still have a hard time believing it, but I saw the serial number and book right next to each other with my own eyes. Somewhere around 95 years old now... and it shoots so well! I've put hundreds of rounds through it, and I take very good care of it. It has the "Poly-Choke" adjustable choke/muzzle-brake on the muzzle. it actually allows the shooter to adjust the size of the pattern with just a few clicks! Righty-tighty lefty-loosey Threads I've found and read have reported that this adjustable choke was indeed a factory option at the time. I bought this model 12 for $190!! that was four years ago at least, and I've read that the most it'll ever be worth is maybe $300. That being said I think i'm going to have my gunsmith take the bbl length down to the end of the mag-tube, but re-install the polychoke muzzlebrake extending past the mag tube. With the brake on the bbl cut down to the mag tube, bbl will be just a bit over 18" and total length of the shotgun will be above the legal limit. i think it'll be awesome, but I'm open to any advice or criticism regarding that. anyhoo, wish i could get better photos, especially regarding the wood grain but the lighting was tough,

You measure 18 inches on the inside to a closed bolt which gives you an extra half inch compared to measuring on the outside.

But I would leave enough barre/choke so that you can grap it with four fingers. Looks better and lets you use it as a club if you run out of ammo!

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Just got off the phone with my gunsmith and he convinced me not to do it! If I was adamant, of course he would have done it. But seeing as it's so old he really didn't want to, to preserve history. Looks like I'll just get the cheapest newer model 12 I can find and do it to that instead

Get a real model 12 from the 50's. One with a polishing or dented barrel at the front will be perfect. Crummy wood on the stock will finish up nicely with sanding and Tru-oil

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Arrg, I do not wish to "hijack" this awesome thread, but I was just looking up Winchester model 1912 serial numbers, and sure enough, I just got off the phone with them, and for the first time ever in my experience, good ol' Jim at the Kittery Trading Post in Maine was wrong about something! Turns out my old model 1912 was not made in 1916, it was made in 1953. This is a bit of a difference! I might just see if my gunsmith is willing after all

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I don't believe I've ever taken her to a bar b que, but this old gal's put a fair amount of meat on the grill...

If that Polychoke will unscrew from the barrel it does not count as a part of the barrel length. If it is silver soldered,welded or permanently affixed it does count as barrel length.

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Not exactly a riot gun, but it has put plenty of meat on the BBQ. My Ithaca 16 gauge Deluxe Deerslayer but it has killed grouse, coyotes, deer over the years.

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