. . . these folks think them quarter-pounders and ribeyes come from . . . ? Are they skeered their chirrun will be traumatized? I bet my daughter watched me clean and butcher 40 head of deer and a half-dozen hogs from the time she was five or six years old up till she went off to college. I really and truly believe people should know where their meat comes from and how it gets to the store.

Police called after man butchers cow in his driveway

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It doesn't come from the fridge?

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Sure you did

My Mommy never told me that.Yucky.

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Dum vivo cano

While I agree with you that people should know how their food comes to be upon their table (I learned very young the phrase "running around like a chicken with its head cut off" was based on fact, and that milk came from squeezing those dangly things on cows), the man in question appears to have shown very little in the way of forethought. Did he really think this through? Doing it in a driveway in a residential neighborhood? Regardless of what his neighbors think, or if they're "traumatized", the health department would be all over him.

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I am a NYC guy, I know nothing about butchering. I cannot believe any manpower was wasted to investigate this. In NYC if there is an arrest to be made, we make it, we don't call an ADA.

This article talks about traumatizing children? ***? If I was the responding cop, I would stay there to learn how to do it. Health code violations? Are those 3 humongous meat packing corporations left in this Country not violating health code when they start cutting the carcass with all the feces all over it?

There used to be 8,000 meat packers in this Country, now it is down to 3 major companies controlling our filthy disgusting food supply. This is why we have e coli outbreaks and mad cow disease.

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Doesn't beef come from McDonalds?

I thought it was created in a cellophane wrapper and that nasty kotex thing...

I agree with you redlevel. My kids have helped clean fish, rabbits, squirrels, deer, pick fruit, corn, beans, potatoes... Everything. It should be viewed as traumatizing to not know where this stuff comes from.

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I like how people think hunters are depraved barbarians but they will buy chop meat at the supermarket where the cow cannot lead a decent life and is crowded in a corral or stall. At least deer run around free enjoying nature before they are taken out.

Hunting, growing crops, providing heat in winter and relying upon yourself to get things done is the most noble lifestyle any American can hope to achieve. Self reliance is a God given American trait.

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I haven't processed a deer in 8-10 years now, and have never tackled processing an animal the size of a butcher-sized steer. There are several processing businesses within 20 miles that I would call on now for a steer or a hog. I believe I still could do it though, if I had to. Especially since I have a front loader on my tractor. The one thing that makes it a lot easier is to have a couple of really sharp knives. The knives don't have to be all that big, but they do need to be sharp. You have to be real careful with those knives, too. I have seen a couple of people with bad wounds they got while cleaning a deer. On larger animals an axe and a good hand meat saw comes in handy, too.

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I can remember when I was a kid about 6-7 years old and watching my grandfather butchering his pig behind his house. This wasn't far from a main road so anyone driving by could see it. I don't recall anyone getting upset or calling the local constabulatory on him. It was the same with rabbits and whatever other animals he had. I remember my nephew telling me a couple of years back when he was in school the teacher asking where they thought the food came from and an overwhelming number of the kids simply replied "the store".
In this case I blame the ignorance and stupidity of the parents, maybe they should be teaching the kids where their food really comes from, and maybe they won't be so wasteful.

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I can remember on cold January mornings when I was 5 to 12 years old seeing a half dozen hogs hanging on the farm. It was big doings, with water boiling, knives flashing, guts being stripped out for chitlins, "liver and lights" boiling with a lot of hot pepper, and 8 to 10 men and women making sausage, cutting chops, scalding and scraping, and my Mama making fresh brunswick stew with two or three of the hog heads. Other heads were boiled down to make "head cheese," or souse meat. Hams, sides, and shoulders were salted down and hung, along with link sausage, in a smokehouse similar to this 125 year-old example on my wife's family farm.

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Awesome story! Nothing is wasted, unlike people today. Maybe if people tried to be like you, America could be great again.

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I can't remember not carrying a knife or not knowing how to skin a rabbit or squirrel or clean fish. I would get to stay out of school to help kill hogs. I was talking to another old man last week and he said at 5 years old he was using a corn knife to cut corn. What would child protection services do now if they saw a kid with a machete. I was probably 3 or 4 when my dad and grandpa started me shooting a .22 and I was hunting by myself at 12. It is a different world than what I grew up in and I don't think it has changed for the better. Larry

Back in the mid 60's my family lived in what now would be a low income progect.One blding. with 8 unit's 2 more with 4 unit's each and 5 single family houses.It was a great place to grow up as there was a lot of kid's with daily baseball game's hide and seek and such. A lot of stay at home mom's that would watch over the kid's. One year my dad got 4 turkey's and fed them for a few week's then one day out came the axe and off went the head's.Several children watched nobody was tramatized though a few mother's did not want to watch.I remember my mom with a big pot of boiling water dipping the bird's to pluck the feather's. Both my parents were brought up on farm's.

The article mentioned kids possibly being upset. No, they won't unless the parents are. In unfamiliar situations kids look to their parents for guidance on how to react. This would have been an opportunity for mature parents to show their kids where meat comes from. Unfortunately our society today is far removed from the realities of life. Growing up on a farm kids gave no thought to this type of activity. We're to "civilized" for that now.

this seems to be a question of "should" rather than "can" you do something. I think the only thing the guy did wrong was discharge a firearm in the neighborhood. Was this in an upscale Home owner's association governed neighborhood?? Does the homeowners association have a prohibition against butchering in the driveway? HEYYYYY this has possibilities the homeowners association may have regulations about flying flags in the front yard or putting up signs honoring the troops but I bet they don't have anyting covering butchering
Me-I do my cleaning in my back yard-I don't do it out front in the driveway, nor do I do it in the kitchen over the sink. Having sex with your wife is a natural and beautiful thing but should you do it in the driveway??
Just sayin'..............

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IMO, this fellow may have exposed himself due to the discharge of a firearm within city limits, which is the most serious issue I see here.

The other thing about traumatizing neighbor kiddies, not as worried about that; folks let their grass grow tall, fridges on the porch, cars up on blocks in the driveway and other such "traditional nuisances" are not what I'd be worried about in this case. But mooing, a shot, then no mooing is what I'd be worried about. And, I hope the barbecue grill is in the same spot in the driveway as where the processing of the animal occurred.

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When I was about five, the neighbors had some ducks for killing and eating. My grandfather walked me over and handed me a hatchet. I got to chop one's head off. The lesson was about where meat came from.

Anyone, when slaughtering animals in the driveway, I'd personally claim that it was part of my religion and that I had to read the entrails to determine the future. In theory, this might make it a protected activity.

This makes me think of the story my cousin told me when she took her daughter out on their first deer hunt together. She figured she would wean the girl into the whole event instead of just showing her everything the first time. Her daughter did the why question game with her until she was just told to stand back and watch. She just ended up being full of questions and wasn’t the slightest bit disturbed by the event. I think most of what the problem is ends up being taught into kids early on by the parents and people they are around. If they are taught eww guts yucky then that is how they are. If they are allowed to have their own opinion then they don’t seem to be such useless people. That’s just my observation on the subject. As for the person in the article, I see how he could be in trouble if he did indeed discharge a firearm inside city limits. I don’t know about laws concerning the unused portions of the animal. They may have issue with it just being bagged up for the trash man if they do have a law about that. I know I can dispose of the dogs poop in the trash can but if I have a small backyard chicken coop I can’t just bag their poop for the trash man since they are listed as farm animals. We have some city laws about what can and can’t be kept or done. Heck, when composted chicken poop makes stellar fertilizer for plants. No, I think a lot of this comes down to what I think of as a “sterilizing of society”. I could maybe choose a better wording but it just means that all the people who have no idea how to change their oil or their tire, the people that don’t have a clue where food comes from, or the people that can’t even hammer a nail in or saw a straight line are the “new normal”. I don’t know why we are doing it, but it’s what we are doing.

He is going to have a learning experience. He will have fun learning how to deal with city and country rules/regulations and the nice folks who enforce them. To quote a lyric, "The times they be a changing..." He will learn.

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The best part of that article for me was: "...if any children had witnessed the butchering, and become upset, that could possibly constitute disorderly conduct."

The family that reported it called the children inside. Yeah....and they were probably told to go upstairs and play one of their video games which contains images of one human severing the head of another human. And images of people "blowing away" one another like it's nothing.

So I have to ask myself....when one of those children grows up to become another "Columbine Kid," will they put the blame on the video game or the driveway butchering incident?

P.S.
I just went back to the article and read some of the comments left and there was one I just loved! It said what the parents should have done was led the children by the hand and said, "See all that blood? That's the 1st step into how they make the cheeseburgers at McDonalds."

Well these folks would be really traumatized by watching what happened to a cute little giraffe at the hands of my daughter a couple months ago.....


A little butchering..........


And just for scale here's a 300 WSM next to the heart............

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If you Google map the guys neighborhood it looks pretty decent and pretty congested. I think this guy is nuts.

Who the hell shoots a Giraffe and brags about it?

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Go figure… A neck shot on a giraffe….

Soy protein come from McDonalds.

Most folks can't stand to view the slaughter, that's not unusual this day and time. Folks left the farm many years ago to work in cotton mills, steel mills and what have you.

Slaughtering a large animal like a beef or hog is hard *** work. It don't end when the sun goes down either. You may get a supper break with some good ole' tenderloin or fresh pork chops, but then it's back to salting down the hams and middlins" or triming fat for the cast iron wash pot so the lard can be rendered the next day.

A shocking sight for sure to those who have lead a sheltered life. I guess they might have to take some valium for a few days after seeing the gore. I guess sharing some blood sausage with the neighbors would be out of the question.

The guy who used to run the cafe in the basement of a local office building where I sometimes eat lunch told me how to dress venison. He's an Italian guy, born in Ethiopia and had the best food in town.

You FILET the meat off of the bone, removing as much fat as possible. Do NOT saw through bones. If you do, you've ruined the meat.

Follow those guidelines and you will have the finest meat you can get.

A few years ago, I went hunting in Missouri with my best friend from college. He got a deer and we dressed it following those instructions. It was the best meat I'd had in YEARS.

Too funny!

Back in the day, a car full of out-of-staters struck a large deer in a snowstorm, near a ski resort. The deer broke its leg and was floundering in the snow. I arrived and the parents/kids all wanted to know if the vet was coming for the deer. I asked them to stay in the car and look the other way if it upset them but I needed to "dispatch" the deer. Bang. Probably traumatized the family for life. Their letter to the commissioner is probably still in my file. And no, I did not get a Christmas card from them. I did get some cards from my co-workers addressed to the "Killer of Bambi", however.

I’m a city kid always have been and always will be. In fact I’m so bad I break out if a get more than 100 yards from asphalt or two miles from a C-store. I do though applaud those of you who are able to be so self-reliant. But butchering any large animal in the driveway of a residential area is just to Bubba for me. What in the heck was this guy thinking?

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If the man didn't shoot the animal on the spot, and it was left in his driveway, how the heck would you drag something like that AnyWhere?
I agree it looks tacky, but..... TACC1

Here in Lexington, there is a city ordnance that states you connot process an animal where it can been seen from the street.

Backyard is fine.

Our Health Department (where I work) would not care if a cow, or deer for that matter, is processed at a house as long as it is for personal consumption.

Poor judgement on the part of the amatuer butcher?...Yes. Does he deserve to be crucified for showing the kiddies the first stages in the development of their cheeseburgers...No. The article reads as though the "authorities" have already determined they are going to get this guy for something if they have to go through every statute on the books until they find some way to legally nail him, however minor the infraction. If the cop on the scene couldn't come up with something to cite him for, on the spot, that should have been the end of the story.

I thought it was Wendy's.

Trying to figure out if they can charge him for shooting it? Hopefully he used a sledge hammer! :P That's better, right?

People should have brought their kids to watch and learn.

These days, he shoulda been in the back yard, I suppose.

Making trouble for people trying to eat is a BAAAAAAAAAAAD place to be in this Country, though.

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The "driveway butcher" is guilty of the same indecency as clownish hunters who parade their gory kills around in the beds of pickup trucks, with lolling tongues, dead white eyes,and boodstained hides. It's not about whether it's legal or not, it's about demonstrating some sensitivity to your neighbors. Creating a potential, and probable, visual disturbance isn't much different than blasting music of dubious taste (ACDC, Wagner, Barry Manilow, etc.) at high, inescapable volume --- probably not illegal, but very rude, nonetheless. The traumatized neighbors may seem silly, but they are entitled to the quiet enjoyment of their sheltered suburban lifestyle, without the intrusion of some social-graces-deprived lout turning their neighborhood into an open-air slaughterhouse.

AC/DC must not be played quietly.

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This was just some psycho murdering a cow!
Everyone knows that food comes in a bag - with fries and a drink...

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Hey Lyle - YouTube

Best part of this mind numbing movie...

Publix (FL based grocery chain) ran a commercial about where milk came from. One kid asked the other and the reply was "Publix!" The Florida Dairy Farmers Assoc. put a stop to that ****! The commercial was pulled.
We have to stop lying to our kids.

I think that is why we have so many vegetarians/vegans, whatever they are these days. They had to find out on their own where this stuff has come from at an older age when their minds weren't as receptive. It's a part of life. A person that has no idea how to take care of themselves is a subject.

I loved watching the surviving Alaska (Alaska Experiement?) show where city folks had to survive. By god, when them veggies got hungry enough they would skin a critter! Even ate a porky-pine on one show. Now THAT'S hungry!

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