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New Show American Gun
Any one else think that this new show is stupid.
Watched the it for the first time last night, watched the first half turned it off and went to bed.
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It won't win any Emmy's that's for sure! But it is better then Sons of Guns and it has a couple of women worth looking at. I don't see it making it past one season as every episode is exactly the same.
The husband and wife bickering (which you can tell is for television purposes only) over him flying off in the helicopter to spend money on more guns. Then they cheat some guy with more money then brains out of some of that money for a custom built gun. Then the daughter shoots some guns...That's it, I just highlighted every single episode!
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But it is better then Sons of Guns
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I think I would trust Will Hayden a lot quicker than I would trust that guy on American Gun. He seems to be more of a con artist than a gun dealer to me.
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A gun toting minister wants a "tuned" 'Colt' SA revolver for Cowboy Action shooting and gets talked into having one made from scratch, from a block of steel to the tune of 10K bucks? Really...?
Has gunsmiths working for him that are so inept, that he has to keep stepping in to save the day by solving some "problem" (who was that masked man?), that a good hobbyist armed with an instruction sheet/GunTech video from Brownell's could tackle, like installing a threaded tactical rifle bolt knob?
Throws a hissy fit over the ideal of a pink gun.... Pssst, Hey Rich... go look at the catalogs of some of the mainstream players out there, like Charter Arms, Savage Arms, Taurus, Remington, Walther, Hogue, and see how much they think it's not going to catch on. Go ask Gander Mountain how terrible it's been for them with the pink version of popular firearms flying off their the shelves.
Sorry... but that program is doing a real disservice in it's portrayal of what John Q Public will perceive as an "average" gun shop, that's patronized by the "average" gun nut, that they need to be protected from with more restrictive guns laws.
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In a previous lounge thread, there was an answer to the 'gun toting minister'.
On the SASS forum, the minister stated the following.
#1, He did not order the handmade SA.
#2, He did not pay for the revolver.
#3, He did not get to keep the gun.
In fact, the only reason he was on the show was that the producers thought he looked good on camera.
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The show gets worse and worse I do not like the image of these cash gun deals gives the appearance of being illegal.
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He makes his gunsmiths look more stupid every week. I think this show gets more stupid all the time.
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In a previous lounge thread, there was an answer to the 'gun toting minister'.
On the SASS forum, the minister stated the following.
#1, He did not order the handmade SA.
#2, He did not pay for the revolver.
#3, He did not get to keep the gun.
In fact, the only reason he was on the show was that the producers thought he looked good on camera.
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Not that there aren't some very successful ministries out there, but 10 grand for a gun? How much do they pay this guy? Being a minister myself, I don't think I could justify 10 grand on a gun when there are so many other needs to be met. But everyone has their own priorities and I don't want to judge anyone. I really do hope this episode was staged. I'd feel a little better. As for the show, yup, kind of repetitive and boring.
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I watched a few episodes of the show, I thought it was awful but the show with the car mounted gun is the last for me. I found it to be reckless and insulting (never mind plain old stupid) do install such a thing.
Who drives around with a loaded gun pointing out the front of a car. Who installs a mounted gun with no redundant safety. One toggle switch makes the gun fire, no "master arm" switch. Reach for the radio know and hit the gun switch. Also no separate trigger block or safety, one big bump, crash, electrical short what ever.
It frankly makes me mad. I am sure that this will give some you tube "hold my beer" bubbas ideas..
I could see a gun thats modified to shoot blanks, ok tacky but safe.
No more of that show
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I watched a few episodes of the show, I thought it was awful but the show with the car mounted gun is the last for me. I found it to be reckless and insulting (never mind plain old stupid) do install such a thing.
Who drives around with a loaded gun pointing out the front of a car. Who installs a mounted gun with no redundant safety. One toggle switch makes the gun fire, no "master arm" switch. Reach for the radio know and hit the gun switch. Also no separate trigger block or safety, one big bump, crash, electrical short what ever.
It frankly makes me mad. I am sure that this will give some you tube "hold my beer" bubbas ideas..
I could see a gun thats modified to shoot blanks, ok tacky but safe.
No more of that show
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My thoughts exactly.
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Amen...
Plus... the scantly clad daughter wants a tattoo which the father says "NO" to for all the boys will be asking her to show it to them and then he will have to shoot them... WHAT???????????????? =o
...as the wife (mother) runs about sporting her surgically enhanced breasts, as if no one knows...
Nope folks this is not the "Gun Show" I was expecting to watch... =(
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That show is at least as good as:
American Truck Driver
American Pig Hunters
American Dangerous Road Drivers
American Pickers
American Pawn Shop
American Chopper
American Cake Guys
and on and on.
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I lasted to about 1/2 way through the Preacher episode,,my first look at the series. I can take no more.
Opening scene, owner sets up some high value(he says) scout rifles he just bought in a display line at a firing point and gloats over them to his family. Then they all demo their shooting abilitys by hitting mailbox size terra-cotta bells or lawn ornaments of some sorts at maybe 30ft with them.
"Sweet!" seems to be the descriptive word of the program.
The gunsmithing crew makes a SAA frame from a block of steel on a 150k cnc machine,,but yet doesn't know how to solder a sight blade on a bbl. They have to be shown how to do that by the owner.
After the frame is roughed out by the machine, one of the 'smiths takes a 3-square file to the inside edge of the cylinder opening and stars to file on it,,while holding the frame in his other hand.
He's at the beginning stage of fitting up a bag of S/A parts given to him including the bbl, trigger, etc.
However, at this point there's still no bbl shank hole even bored in the frame, no cyl pin hole, no gate, etc.
The SAA is made for a 10k price for the Man of the Cloth,,but Ms. BadaBoom sez they go for 15k! as she waves what looks like a Ruger Vaquero w/ JayScott grips in hubbys face.
He storms out of the office and almost slams the door in a rage. Great acting.
Jr. the engraver gets to work on a couple of 50cal (Barrett?) rifles by engraving the owners pet (rifle) names onto the sides of each. 'Sweet' is the word again mulitple times.
After a discussion of a proper 'font' (that's uptown 'graver talk for lettering style), the work is entrusted to him. Here ya go kid.
Annoying Sissy is sent on her way and out of his special cutting cave after she's found to be annoying and of no use in the segment.
Things go well,,,,til, ooohhhhh, a slip of the traditional air powered engraving tool.
Oh well, I said out loud,,make it into a tree. But he didn't hear me and instead threw his GraverMax handpiece accross the room in dismay.
Ms BadaBoom entered at that moment and saw what happened and told him "you have to tell your father about this!".
The last fleeting moments before the 'delete' button was pushed, I recall Jr saying he'd fix it and saw him sanding the painted finish out on the rifle.
I can only guess from there. Perhaps a trip to Earl Scheib's wasn't too far in the future
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How about a gold coin for a cut down blackpowder barrel mounted on a piece of oak? He tells the buyer it would be a thousand dollars to build a hand cannon. He was worried that the thing would blow up and hurt someone. The buyer thought he was getting an authentic hand built hand cannon, and only got a .50 cal barrel on a stick. Must have more money than sense.
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Yeah... that hand cannon episode was something. They used a modern barrel, made of modern steel, that's a heck of a lot stronger than the barrels of the hand cannon era, and yet the owner is so concerned about it bursting when the 'smith wants to trim the flats off of it on a lathe to fit it into what looks like a 2" thick brass "barrel". Uh.. how about using a little less black powder when you load it, not mention that the steel barrel is probably proofed by the manufacturer, with today's liability lawsuits, to have a measure of safety built in to handle a degree of overloading.
It's too bad, there's a lot of potential for the show if is done better, maybe the producers will make the much needed adjustments after this first season if they're getting this kind of response on Discovery's website. They can start by not making it look like his gunsmiths are named Larry, Moe and Curly.
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In the episode where he flys the helicopter to the Sleeper house (which in reality is about a 15 minute drive from his shop) and sells the guy a bunch of "collector" guns. One of the guns is supposed to be an M-14 (fully automatic?) and as far as I know, an FFL can only sell guns at his place of business or a gun show. "Home delivery" is not allowed.
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something just wont let me watch the show, or any like it.
I play electric guitar in a church choir. This put me in need of a serious amplifier. So, I sat down at the bench and designed one.
This required grafting working knowledge of vacuum tubes a few integrated circuits and all the computations that go with them, to my brain.
its not the task of an idiot and im sick of being painted as one for the fact that I love guns. may all these shows tank until represent our cross section properly.
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I'm afraid that in this era of Jerry Springer, our cross section just isn't interesting enough. Therefore, some egotistic jerk with pig scat for brains, his plastic fantastic wife, his incompetent son, and his jail-bait daughter get to influence and educate millions of impressionable people about gun culture.
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I'm afraid that in this era of Jerry Springer, our cross section just isn't interesting enough. Therefore, some egotistic jerk with pig scat for brains, his plastic fantastic wife, his incompetent son, and his jail-bait daughter get to influence and educate millions of impressionable people about gun culture.
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not interesting ?!?!
tell ya what ... lets find a dart board picture to print out as targets, grab some pistols, set em up at the 75 yard mark and see how interesting we arn't.
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It won't win any Emmy's that's for sure! But it is better then Sons of Guns and it has a couple of women worth looking at. I don't see it making it past one season as every episode is exactly the same.
The husband and wife bickering (which you can tell is for television purposes only) over him flying off in the helicopter to spend money on more guns. Then they cheat some guy with more money then brains out of some of that money for a custom built gun. Then the daughter shoots some guns...That's it, I just highlighted every single episode!
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haha this is a complete season wrap-up!
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The gal that bought the pink gun was kinda shiny :-)
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The gal that bought the pink gun was kinda shiny :-)
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I read on another web site that she has been in other TV shows and maybe even done some soft core porn, (that wasnt confirmed)...
So at any rate shes right from central casting
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I agree that the show is pretty lame. I almost made it through two episodes. Was hoping it would be much better than it has turned out to be. I'd rather be fishing anyways...
I really dont care what the rest of my fellow Americans think of me as a gun owner. Anyone who judges me based on TV personalities is someone I would not get along with anyways. The opinions of others would not affect my gun ownership status either. How pathetic would I be if I needed a TV show to lend creedence to who or what I am?! I think most could relate to that
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A total and complete piece of trash.
The "preacher" was over the top, flying off in a helicopter to "pedal" a load of guns was unreal and putting the Walther PPKs on the front of the car was moronic.
I have to believe that there must be a hidden agenda somewhere? You really couldn't come up with stuff this stupid without a reason?
I'm fed up with this program.....it almost makes Will Hayden look smart!
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re: American gun .....
Lousy. Makes firearms owners, gun shops, and collectors look like lousy cheating sobs and also like they are irresponsible. If it was filmed at a genuine shop then these people are real pieces of work but there are unfortunatleyl those types that like firearms or at least cheating people.
A few have commented on Mr. Hayden but remember he does have a legitimate business and a degree of success. You have to be tough to make it. He grinds me a little but hey its also TV.
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Glad I missed it -- sounds awful. (But I do enjoy the reviews you boys are writing! Funny stuff! )
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Don't know how long it's been on but I've watched a few episodes. What I find ridiculous is the precious metal deal sweeteners. The guy selling the BAR allowing 10 ounces of silver to sway him. Not for nothing, but when negotiating in 4 digits on something, silver at 30-50 dollars an ounce fluxuating is a joke. When I sell something, just give me the cash or get lost and a have a nice day.
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I read on another web site that she has been in other TV shows and maybe even done some soft core porn, (that wasnt confirmed)...
So at any rate shes right from central casting
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I agree that the show is pretty lame. I almost made it through two episodes. Was hoping it would be much better than it has turned out to be. I'd rather be fishing anyways...
I really dont care what the rest of my fellow Americans think of me as a gun owner. Anyone who judges me based on TV personalities is someone I would not get along with anyways. The opinions of others would not affect my gun ownership status either. How pathetic would I be if I needed a TV show to lend creedence to who or what I am?! I think most could relate to that
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I really have to disagree with you there on saying "I really don't care what the rest of my fellow Americans think of me as a gun owner" and "The opinions of others would not affect my gun ownership status either", Sir... with all due respect, you can't be any more wrong.
One only has to look at what's happened in California, it is a PRIME example of what happens to gun rights when the opinion of a voting majority changes to where all guns are evil and need to be banished, and elects officials of the same mindset into office to wreak havoc with those rights.
With the total garbage that's being produced by that show, I get (and other people should be too) concerned that it, along with other negative portrayals (by the news media and others), just might be enough to influence some 2nd Amendment support fence sitting politician and/or voter to fall on the wrong side of that fence when we need their vote.
The pro 2nd Amendment victory of Keller in the supreme Court was won by the slightest of margins... 1 lousy vote. Just think how much different things would be today if the 1 vote had gone the other way.
I don't need a TV show to lend credence to who or what I am either, but I do not need it to portray gun enthusiasts or the firearms business, to the general public as something that is certainly not true for the majority of us.
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I have to agree with Gunhacker. Keep in mind that this show is not made for us normal, law-abiding gun enthusiasts. It is made for people who want to believe that gun enthusiasts are rowdy creeps who lack respect for the law and good taste. They do it by throwing in all of the fakey reality show stuff that has become so prevalent in TV "entertainment."
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I think if they got rid of those scripted idiots and made a show with Harry potterfield just doing his thing on tv that would be cool. No yelling no condisending comments just gun smithing and then trying out the guns. Make something cool and show your talents then the quality kind of like how it's made. Get rid of the drama and the hooter girls. That kind of junk keeps me and the wife changing the channel. As far as the red jacket with the owner always brow beating the gunsmiths what a crok. I would be contemplating being his biggest competition. Being that most every platform is a saga gun of some type. Take out the drama and you would have a great show other than that you might as well watch jerry springer. I have to say I do like american hoggers just because the old mans saying. Doeboy
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Watched it once. That was more than enough for me.
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