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12-05-2011, 09:16 PM
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Heard Beck talking about this today....
I for one don't like the whole idea of it. Not that seeing a live mammoth wouldn't be cool, but we shouldn't be playing God. This crosses a line with me.
All the environ-MENTAL-ists carry on about how fragile and perpetually in danger the ecosystem is. Look at the python invasion in Florida. They are all concerned about currently existing invasive species as it is. Why on God's green earth would anyone want to re-introduce ANY extinct species is beyond me! Imagine the added strain on the ecosystems where these things would live if re-introduced today!
There is a reason they went extinct. And I kind of have a hard time believing it was directly related to humans hunting them. I don't think the worldwide human population was large enough to eradicate an entire species of such large animals with the primitive weaponry of the time.... I tend to think it had more to do with climate change/food source reduction than anything. But I know there a few different hypothesis' on this that are hotly debated in the scientific community....
FTR: Yes I believe the climate goes through cyclical change, but I don't believe mans activity has as much to do with it as those who want to charge us for breathing want us to believe.......
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12-05-2011, 09:36 PM
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The honest truth is we let all the pythons go in Florida as a future money making scam. The idea is to let the population keep growing a few more years and then put a big game tag on them. Then we will rake in all the python hunting fees, have python hunting shows hosted here, and can you imagine all the python skin that will be coming to market soon??? Ingenious I tell you, ingenious. We are downright diabolical with this one. Now all we need is the Mouse to take charge of it and make the Wild Python through the swamp ride...
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12-05-2011, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximumbob54
The honest truth is we let all the pythons go in Florida as a future money making scam. The idea is to let the population keep growing a few more years and then put a big game tag on them. Then we will rake in all the python hunting fees, have python hunting shows hosted here, and can you imagine all the python skin that will be coming to market soon??? Ingenious I tell you, ingenious. We are downright diabolical with this one. Now all we need is the Mouse to take charge of it and make the Wild Python through the swamp ride...
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Nice Rescuers Down Under reference!!
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12-06-2011, 12:07 AM
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...Why on God's green earth would anyone want to re-introduce ANY extinct species is beyond me! ....
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Well, herds of buffalo on the roam on the Great Plains would be pretty cool, as would flocks of passenger pigeons overhead. And some Tasmanian tigers in Tasmania would be a-okay with me.
(Probably draw the line at giant carniverous marsupials tho...)
Just sayin'.
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12-06-2011, 12:13 AM
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I hope they don't clone dodoes...we have enough of them as is!
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Why not? We can run them for congress!
They couldn't do any worse.
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12-06-2011, 01:10 AM
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As can be seen here, the height of the mammoth would make taking the frontal brain shot pretty hard. That would be a real problem in a charge.
In colder weather, these animals had a long, shaggy coat that might also impede bullet penetration.
But our ancestors killed them with spears and darts from atlatls. The famous Clovis points from New Mexico were probably on atlatl darts. In some areas, mainly Eastern Europe, houses were made of mammoth tusks and bones. These were probably overlaid with mammoth hides. Some may have had mud overlaying the hides and bones.
My guess is that anything from a .375 H&H Magnum to a .700 Nitro Express would kill a mammoth, and the .340 Weatherby might suffice, too. You could probably kill them with a .30/06, but I'd hate to stop one with anything below .375 caliber. These were bigger than a modern elephant. It's illegal in most African countries to hunt elephant with less than .375 caliber, in some cases, .400 caliber. But keep in mind your own recoil limitations.
Better start looking for a nice .416 Rigby now, or have it built.
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Or a 577 T Rex. Just make sure you hang on to it!
.577 T-Rex Rifle Recoil - YouTube
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