I read an article on this yesterday. Apparently some primo frozen mammoth marrow was discovered by some Russian scientists. Article said the use of DNA recovery for cloning had also gotten much better in the last 15 years or so.

I dunno. Having some woolly mammoths roaming about might make life more interesting... Heck, maybe we could clone up a bunch of extinct species. E.g., dodo birds. Seems okay to me, especially for those we humans have killed off.

Just stay away from those velioraptors...

I hope they don't clone dodoes...we have enough of them as is!

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Why not? We can run them for congress!
They couldn't do any worse.

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Yay, mammoths!

If only we can keep those politically incorrect Native Americans from killing them all off this time. Show some respect for the environment, why don't ya!

Despite that this probably foils my scheme to corner the world ivory market, I think I'll start knapping some Clovis spear points, in case there'll be a season for traditional primitive weapons.

Cloning mammoths could be a great idea...
They could feed and cloth the homeless...wonder if they taste like chicken???

It would bring the price of mammoth ivory down.

maybe we will get lucky and they pee gasoline

Next it will be Saber Toothed Tigers
& we may not be at the top of the food chain

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Compact 9mm Just my $0.02

Reminds me of Jurrasic Park. I think man better leave well enough alone.

Playing God could have dire consequences.

Wait until the Feds REINTRODUCE them to N. Ameica. The idiots did it with wolves here in Montana. Whats next...sabre tooth tigers?

Seriously I'd LOVE to see a wooly mammoth in my lifetime. Cool Science I can get behind and support.

Stop wasting money on the "green" BS and start cloning woolies!

FN in MT

If them wooly boogers are as hard to keep in the pasture as bufflers, I don't want nuthin' to do with them.

I can see you with 100 head of woolies to look after...'spect you will be riding your fenceline every day lookin' for where they got out

Someone has to ask. It may as well be me.

Wonder what type rifle one will need to drop a critter like that?

Ain't they sorta like a Bigfoot?

Any present day elephant rifle would work just fine on them.

My choice would be a double rifle.

I would be happy to let them put a couple of full grown ones on my deer lease.

I would rather hunt elephants than any other animal.

There is Nothing like elephant hunting.

Sheriff,

If them rascals is anything like a buf, they ain't too bad to handle.

You can make them go anywhere they want to go.


Had a feller buy the ranch next to us and was gonna raise bufflers.

He said Wyoming law required landowners to "fence things out" thus any fences was our responsibility.

I told him first time his critters come on to my place, I'd call him and let him know that they was on my place.

I told him if they come on agin, I'd call him and tell him where the carcasses wuz layin'.

Having a Sharp's and a Trapdoor, them critters was kind on the edge of me testin out my "buffler gun" anyway.

That feller decided to build a 10' high fence outta ol powerline cable. 7 wires high and three of them electric.

Never had no problem with them buff and he sold the whole ranch for a sub division about 3 years later.

He's still got a buffler ranch on the state line south of Cheyenne. Guess he din't like me as a neighbor.

As the old Trooper said,"Beans is safer!"
I can see it now.
Introducing, The .577 S&W MAGNUM!
Chambered in the NEW 'Y' Frame !

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Well, I've seen the reconstructed models and those suckers had really long tusks! The elephants in the zoo have tiny ones. Think how many sets of N frame grips we could be harvesting in just a few years!

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I'm gettin' my Atal Atals ready now.

Rule 303

Mammoths??? Really??? I'll just wait for the boys from Brazil!!! That's when the real fun will start!!! : O

A cloned mamoth, would never leave captivity. Realistically, it might be done for scientific research. There is a possibility that one would be kept in a zoo for a tourist attraction. There is no way that they would survive in the wild.

Should make driving down I-80 more interesting.

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This place straddles the WY/CO state line on I-25
Wannabe tourist trap.

You have to incubate it somewhere and an elephant is a logical choice, unless you are looking for "miniatures", then a tapir may be in order.

Elephants have a highly evolved social order and as mammoths were so similar, they could probably pick up the "language" without a problem.

It actually would not be a true clone because there will be some areas of the genome that are probably not totally recoverable. But it will be close enough for "government work". After all, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, only a Cajun would care if it tasted like chicken...

If you truely could clone them, you would want to raise them with elephants.
I think they would socially adapt just fine.

And if that works, what about the T Rex??? And of course the Saber Tooth Tiger...

I think I will load some more 450No2 ammo tomorrow, just in case...

Hopefully your better than the big game hunter on Jurassic Park.

Probably plenty of room for them in Siberia,where they were originally. Did we have mammoths over here? I know we had mastodons, as there are several kill sites where they were butchered, here in the Southwest.

What's the difference between a mammoth and a mastodon? I don't know (one man's Mede is another man's Persian).

I can hardly wait until we're screwing up the economy for another 'endangered species' that we purposely brought back from the dead.

Be afraid....very afraid!

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So what did he charge you? (Too much, clearly!)

I'd like to hear the story.... I sorta feel I draw the line at shootin' gorillas, but if one was chewin' on my companions and looking' at me with a gleam in hizzer eye, I'd probably dispatch 'em as well...

Quote " Someone has to ask. It may as well be me.
Wonder what type rifle one will need to drop a critter like that?



First thing you have to do is get one of these:




Copied from another thread:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/lounge/220102-700.html

As can be seen here, the height of the mammoth would make taking the frontal brain shot pretty hard. That would be a real problem in a charge.

In colder weather, these animals had a long, shaggy coat that might also impede bullet penetration.

But our ancestors killed them with spears and darts from atlatls. The famous Clovis points from New Mexico were probably on atlatl darts. In some areas, mainly Eastern Europe, houses were made of mammoth tusks and bones. These were probably overlaid with mammoth hides. Some may have had mud overlaying the hides and bones.
My guess is that anything from a .375 H&H Magnum to a .700 Nitro Express would kill a mammoth, and the .340 Weatherby might suffice, too. You could probably kill them with a .30/06, but I'd hate to stop one with anything below .375 caliber. These were bigger than a modern elephant. It's illegal in most African countries to hunt elephant with less than .375 caliber, in some cases, .400 caliber. But keep in mind your own recoil limitations.

Better start looking for a nice .416 Rigby now, or have it built.

Or a 577 T Rex. Just make sure you hang on to it!
.577 T-Rex Rifle Recoil - YouTube

Five years? Just enough time to convert the old tank truck into a giant (mammoth?) size smoker.

mmmmmmmmm....Mammoth....

Where is the Mammoth Gun thread?

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So how do we classify the big monkey here? Is he just a big old monkey, or is he a lowlife gorilla? Just askin'.

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ooooooooh. That's awful, 'Dawg!

That's T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E!

hmmm, you know, just cut to the chase and get a nice barrett .50 BMG. I think that might do it!

Is it safe for +P ammunition?

So it won't be the apes that kill us all, it will be the mammoths??? Great. I have rifles that at least give me a snowball's chance but I don't own a M2HB... whimper...

Heard Beck talking about this today....

I for one don't like the whole idea of it. Not that seeing a live mammoth wouldn't be cool, but we shouldn't be playing God. This crosses a line with me.

All the environ-MENTAL-ists carry on about how fragile and perpetually in danger the ecosystem is. Look at the python invasion in Florida. They are all concerned about currently existing invasive species as it is. Why on God's green earth would anyone want to re-introduce ANY extinct species is beyond me! Imagine the added strain on the ecosystems where these things would live if re-introduced today!

There is a reason they went extinct. And I kind of have a hard time believing it was directly related to humans hunting them. I don't think the worldwide human population was large enough to eradicate an entire species of such large animals with the primitive weaponry of the time.... I tend to think it had more to do with climate change/food source reduction than anything. But I know there a few different hypothesis' on this that are hotly debated in the scientific community....

FTR: Yes I believe the climate goes through cyclical change, but I don't believe mans activity has as much to do with it as those who want to charge us for breathing want us to believe.......

Well, herds of buffalo on the roam on the Great Plains would be pretty cool, as would flocks of passenger pigeons overhead. And some Tasmanian tigers in Tasmania would be a-okay with me.

(Probably draw the line at giant carniverous marsupials tho...)

Just sayin'.

The honest truth is we let all the pythons go in Florida as a future money making scam. The idea is to let the population keep growing a few more years and then put a big game tag on them. Then we will rake in all the python hunting fees, have python hunting shows hosted here, and can you imagine all the python skin that will be coming to market soon??? Ingenious I tell you, ingenious. We are downright diabolical with this one. Now all we need is the Mouse to take charge of it and make the Wild Python through the swamp ride...

Nice Rescuers Down Under reference!!