I can understand this sentiment in the specific forum areas, but the Lounge seems to be where people can lighten up and have fun. I enjoy the humor myself.

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Jon

The most annoying/arrogant post sign off gotta be the old "nuff said"

Why waste words---nuff said?

John

That Sipowich is serious as a heart attack. I wish he would loosen up.

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SOS USA

It's his blood pressure.

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James L. "Jim" Rhiner

Have a good time?
Where did you go? (I'll be sure to go somewhere else)

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Lee Jarrett

I believe Mr. Mack attended the Lumberjack Gala last Friday, or, he's a secret Monty Python fan. "He's a lumberjack and he's OK, he sleeps all night and he works all day." The verses between the chorus get progressively funnier. At least, I found 'em to be funny.

Chris

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/at least she finds me handy.

I'm not sure where I went. Something untoward I assume. The villagers have surrounded the house just now with torches and

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SOS USA

Save the flag man! Save the

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Dum vivo cano

This forum is an electronic version of "bench racing", where we would all sit around and talk cars. Some of it was very informative, some guys thought they were Mr. Goodwrench, some had real nice cars, and a few claimed their car went 900 MPH. All things considered, I enjoy this forum immensely.

Ahhhhh....the Forum. Teacher, mother, secret lover......

Just remember this.....If it doesn't have Siamese twins in a jar, it is not a fair.

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Any thread that includes the words 'jocularity' and 'snarky' is O.K. in my book!

This is a bit of a rant. I have been seeing much more of something that bothers me, namely supposed gun enthusiasts taking swipes at various guns and/or preferences.

I have been seeing this for years. Example: the .17 HMR.

I have seen a number of posts saying things like "You're crazy to want one, a .223 is cheaper to shoot and much better" and "This cartridge is all hype. If the .22WMR didn't exist, and they introduced it tomorrow, it would kill off the .17 HMR right away."

I do not own a .17HMR. I tested a first year K-frame but hated the balance with the full underlug 8 3/8" barrel. It was VERY accurate. Here is what many others have reported about it in rifles: It has a much flatter trajectory than the .22WMR. It is extremely accurate in a variety of factory guns. Under 150 yards it blows up crows etc. like a Swift. Recoil is so slight you can *always* see the bullet strike through the scope. THIS IS A NOT INSIGNIFICANT COMBINATION OF VIRTUES.

I keep seeing negative posts on new products from people who have no experience with them. Why are they posting? Why take the time to type in your theorectical distaste? I saw this with the S&W .500 and Ti/Scan revolvers. Both have been called "Answers to nonexistant problems." (I disagree 100% here.) One poster was mad that the new 329 was in .44 Mag instead of .44 Special! Hunh? It *IS* in .44 Special, just .44 Mag also!

The reason this bothers me is that I have always felt the gun culture was a "big tent," and given the fact that we're always under assault, it makes NO sense to badmouth parts of it.

One of my favorite people was the late famous benchrest gunsmith and recordholder Art Freund. Art made the action for my first full custom .50 BMG rifle. When I got interested in machine guns, I was always getting Art to make heavier bolts for subguns to slow down the cyclic rate, or reline a barrel on a rare gun to make it shootable with available ammo, or put scope mounts on MGs. He also made a swage die for me to make jacketed 1" slugs for my 4-bore. Art's attitude was always "Hey, this is an interesting new project John's dreamed up. I can't wait to see him try it out." He once told me I was his favorite customer. My affinity for big-bore rifles led him to build for himself *his own* .510 Wells at age 81(!)

This attitude is sorely lacking among many people who frequent the boards, and I don't understand it. We should all be excited that the factories and custom shops are responding with so many great new products! The fact that I have little interest in semiauto handguns does not make me blind to the fact that S&W's introduction of a 1911 had many people turning handsprings (I feel the same way about the .500). Seeing a Shiloh Sharps custom rifle in .40-65 or a $3000 racegun warms my heart, even though I'll never own either.

This isn't a time of *rationing,* people! The brass companies aren't *discontinuing* .357 mag production to tool up for the .500 S&W or .17 HMR! They're making *everything,* and at low prices, compared to what full custom work costs!

Is it envy that makes some people be so negative? That makes no sense to me. Say the gun in question, with all accessories (like components, scope, dies, holster, whatever) costs $2000 (most are a lot less.) I think a $2000 object is an attainable goal for 99.9% of the people out there. How? Well, for starters, how many drive late-model cars? If you really want the gun, try owning a car worth $2000 less. Exercise at home and save the gym membership, if you have one. Sell some stuff you don't really want any more. Do some part-time work, like writing magazine articles, or casting bullets for someone who shoots a lot, whatever. If you *don't* want the gun badly enough to do any of those things, fine, but why does it bother you that other people do?

I've always known that there are people in this world who dislike seeing others happy. Up until now I thought these types were conspicuously absent from the ranks of shooters.

JR

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This ones for you SP


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