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Old 01-13-2012, 11:59 AM
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These people are dead and beyond caring.
Now, some pantywetting JAG, with his head stuck in a book and looking to make a reputation is another story.
fine em a weeks pay, take their camera's away and let em get on with business.
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If these men are going to repremanded, my only suggestion would be only a nice little chat with the Company Gunny....with the warning "Next time don't get caught!" and end it there.
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When you eat, sleep, laugh, fight, cry and kill next to one of the best friends god will ever give you, and he is killed by a group of people who you already hate, it is a way to release a little pressure.

If you haven’t been there you won’t understand.

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the liberal media is just as angry as the Taliban.
they sure didn't act that way when those U.S. soldiers' corpses were hung on a bridge and burned
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Who cares about the muslim slime! They happen to be the enemy. They're all a threat to our freedom. They won't be happy till they are in control of the whole world, and hopefully, that ain't gonna happen! Next time, don't record it, or do anything else that Hillary can get inflamed over. In the meantime, take every advantage of warfare to kill as many as you can.
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"Hey, they were on fire. We were just putting them out."
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LOL at these responses all while claiming moral superiority!!! LOL
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A man has to "pee pee" somewhere every day and where they did it was as good a place as any and better than most. However this shows that it's best for your bathroom activities to remain private.

And what our enemies think of this is totally irrelevant. We've given FAR too much consideration to their feelings already. It's time we treated this enemy as they really deserve. If they want war we should give them all they can stand and more. We need a lot more of Black jack Pershing's policy of how to deal with human vermin and we need to ditch the warm fuzzy feelings toward treating terrorist thugs like they are enemy soldiers, or members of the church down the road that we don't attend; because they are neither. They have no rights other than the right to be hunted down and killed like a rabid animal. What happens to their worthless carcass does not matter in the least. it can become a urinal, a porta-potty, burned, fed to the buzzards or whatever.
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LOL at these responses all while claiming moral superiority!!! LOL
Sounds like you've forgotten (if you ever knew) how to win.

"Do your enemy no small harm" - Machiavelli
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Sounds like you've forgotten (if you ever knew) how to win.

"Do your enemy no small harm" - Machiavelli
actually i think some have forgotten what its like to truly be "better than" those they claim are inferior "animals". which is fine by me really, like i said i support our troops but lets just stop pretending that it is what it isnt.
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:10 PM
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I think everybody would have felt better if those young Marines had just each had a necklace of Enemy Ears.
Kinda like the old days.

And everybody ask me why I believe in

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I would readily trade moral superiority for fire superiority.

I think that the only ones trying to fool anybody are those sitting on the fence or worse, those that readily assign moral equivalency to the Taliban or Al Qaeda compared to our own troops.
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LOL at these responses all while claiming moral superiority!!! LOL
There is no such thing as "Moral Superiority" in war. Thinking there is has got us where we are in that ****hole.
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great honorable warriors throughout history have taken war time kill trophys and maintained honor, how many of them in the history books were ever recorded peeing on their enemies, or other disgusting BS.
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I think that the only ones trying to fool anybody are those sitting on the fence or worse, those that readily assign moral equivalency to the Taliban or Al Qaeda compared to our own troops.
ive already said KILL'EM,KILL'EM ALL for all i care!!! what is gained by doing such idiotic things to dead enemies? wouldnt stuff like this be considered vengeful? and if we're doing the same stuff to our enemies as they do how can you say our morality is any better? IT ISNT. im out, no ones mind is going to be changed, some get, it some dont. peace
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War is disgusting BS, so is being a cop in a a ****** part of town, so is being a detention officer at a jail or prison. The big difference is, going home at night. Police and detention officers need to, just like the solders need to at the end of their rotation. It is alot different than turning the game off when Mom calls you up from the basement for supper. My hat is off to these men and women, they have been fighting the good fight with one arm tied behind their back and are making the best of it, no thanks to politicians who get Purple Hearts after shooting a sack of rice.
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bad taste and not very decent at all and I don't condone it one bit. But what would cover this in the UCMJ? I hope they don't court marshall these men, but they ought to at least get a Captian's Mast for aggravated stupid.

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ive already said KILL'EM,KILL'EM ALL for all i care!!! what is gained by doing such idiotic things to dead enemies? wouldnt stuff like this be considered vengeful? and if we're doing the same stuff to our enemies as they do how can you say our morality is any better? IT ISNT. im out, no ones mind is going to be changed, some get, it some dont. peace
Vengeful? Now why would be be vengeful?

Obviously you were not sucessful in your attempts to change the tone...

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The guy with the camera should be courtmartialed. I question anyone that stupid being in the armed forces.
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The whole thing is lunacy. They were "peed upon". NOT THAT! OMG NOT THAT!!!! When my boy child was a baby I was peed upon a few times when I went to change his diaper. Now I assume that I am doomed to the hell of peed upon people? The whole thing is so blown out of preportion that it makes me chuckle. Our worthless Sec. of State has even chimed in. What are we paying her for, policing the toilet habits of the Armed Forces? In fact she should be Sec. of Short Arm Inspections. Teach the troops to shoot at the glint of sun off a camera lens. After all it could be an enemy sniper.

PS, Didn't Patton pee in the Rhine as gesture of his appreciation for Germany? I'm German, I ain't offended.
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Vengeful? Now why would be be vengeful?

Obviously you were not sucessful in your attempts to change the tone...

" stupid is, as stupid does"
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If I had been the one in charge we would not be having this discussion. Afghanistan would just be a dark spot with only a name on a map showing where it used to be and the only live Afghans would be those who happened to be living out of the country at the time the bombs fell.
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Perhaps it would have been better if they had peed on the cameraman, instead.

A comentator on the news said this would be a reason for them to hate us more. You mean they need a "reason" ? Does that mean they have some kind of real freedom in what they think? I THINK NOT. They are slaves to their culture.

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Tommy
I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!


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.... They are slaves to their culture.
My wife's cousin was over there for three 'go rounds'. He was CW4 assigned to seeing some roads built and signing off on completion so the Afgan contractor could be paid (with American Dollars). These were brand new, never had a road there roads, not a goat path that anyone had blown the **** out of. An Afgan contractor wanted to be paid for a section of road he had not completed and offered the CWO a 12 year old girl and a bottle of Johnny Walker Red to sign off on the project. He was thown out. Two days later the contractor shows up with a 12 year old boy and a case of Scotch wanting the same thing.
Any complaint from any local about the 'whizz video' should be treated with the same level of respect any 12 year old Afgan child is given.
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Moral superiority will start wars, but fire superiority will win wars. Which would prefer to have?
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What a big deal about nothing.
Distasteful? Yes.
Bad Judgement? Yes.

Interesting that combat allows shooting people with FMJ bullets, but softpoints are too brutal. It is, however, OK to use a 1/2" bullet, or a 20mm (80cal).
Also, burning them with napalm, foogas, and willie peter is acceptable. Anybody seen my flamethrower?
It's OK to blow someone into unrecognizable pieces with whatever ordnance one can put on him, from very small launched grenades, through mortars and artillery and missles, to huge air delivered bombs.
OK to use a Claymore, but shotguns are evil. (an MP took my Ithaca 37!)
Landmines are very humane.

But DON'T forget- urinating on a corpse is a savage act and won't be tolerated.

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you have to have been in combat to have good moral standing and know the difference between right and wrong? this is the kind of **** that XXXXXXXXX me off to no end. WE are supposed to be better than those we fight, isnt that what were always saying? dont get me wrong here i fully support our troops and those doing the best they can. these guys, not so much, combat or not, is no excuse. at the very least guys like this have no business in the military any more than a cop who would do the same type of stuff to a civilian.
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really? why cant we just go in kick their rears like we're supposed too and come home? why is it they have to be tortured, abused and debased? i dont see how allowing or accepting this type of behavior by our military would have any affect on winning or losing the war.
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actually i think some have forgotten what its like to truly be "better than" those they claim are inferior "animals". which is fine by me really, like i said i support our troops but lets just stop pretending that it is what it isnt.
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ive already said KILL'EM,KILL'EM ALL for all i care!!! what is gained by doing such idiotic things to dead enemies? wouldnt stuff like this be considered vengeful? and if we're doing the same stuff to our enemies as they do how can you say our morality is any better? IT ISNT. im out, no ones mind is going to be changed, some get, it some dont. peace
Hey, talk's cheap.
I'm sure there is a recruiter near you, eagerly seeking people of high moral character.

Do your tour and get back to us.

Be sure you get all the good experiences.
Savor the aromas. The pics and vids never quite relay the aromas. They're nice.
Maybe you'll remember how you detested the way you smelled because you wore the same clothes for a week or more, and wonder when, exactly, you got used to it. You and your buddies are not the worst smells you will encounter.

I started to tell you more, but I don't want to spoil the experience for ya.

I'll close this now, before a grunt comes along and fires you up so I don't have to ding him.
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