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Beautiful 39, I love the scope!
All these were Marlin orders I finished today and I've got a half dozen more. Maybe I can get me a .357 1894 someday
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Lever guns are a long way from being dead. They will outlast the auto loaders.
I saw one in a pawnshop last week for $3,500 USED. It was a Winchester and they wanted it more than I did.
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A 1964 Marlin 39A with vintage Marlin Micro-Vue 4X Scope.
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Not dead, but Remington seems to be killing Marlin.
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Not dead to me. Can't get much better than an afternoon with a classic Marlin 39A and a brick of ammo.
I just finished the stock on this 1894fg this past weekend.
Three more .41 Magnum Marlins.
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far from dead i am trying my darndest to trade for one in 357 just love'em
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WOW, ko............awesome wood on that 1894.
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If they are dead, will someone please sell me a Marlin Model 39A from around 1964!
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The Marlin in 45-70 seems popular here my part of Alaska for bear and moose in brushy areas. I think there is a lot of satisfaction to keeping an old gun in use. Still hunt birds with my Dad's Remington 11-48 in 16 Ga.
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Definitely not dead; not at my house anyway. There are only two rifles in my safe that are NOT lever guns. It's the lever guns that fill my freezer each year.
I guess I'm a bit of a Winchester nut. I have an early 9422 and plenty of 94s in 25-35, 7-30 Waters, 30-30, 32 WS, 38-55 and 44 mag. Plus a couple 1886s in 45-70. Reckon I need to get off my butt and take a Winchester family photo.
One of my greatest pleasures is the fact that my oldest son also loves lever guns. Someday he will inherit quite a few.
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Not dead in my house. I have my Marlin 45-70 Gov't Guide Gun, which is my go-to gun for hogs and my dad's old Marlin M-1893 30-30.
Dad's 30-30 was made in 1917 and bought by my grandfather from either Sears or Monkey Wards in 1918 or 1919 or so. My dad got hit first deer with it and I got my first hog with it. My brother now owns it ( - but it was dad's decision ) and he'll give it to his son when it's time so it will stay in the family.
I just replaced the broken firing pin last night and need to take it out and test fire it before the special hog hunting season March 1-14.
I need to get pics up on both of these.
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Great thread!
My next rifle will be a Marlin Guide Rifle....just can't decide which loop size to go with.
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I have 3 Marlins... a 30AS, an 1894C and my latest pickup, this 1951 vintage 336SC in .35 Remington.
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Sure wish they'd make one in 500 S&W Mag.
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leverguns are alive just getting harder to find a good deal on, cannot seem to be able to trade into a 357 mag or 44 mag. one around here.
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I hear an awful lot about how us whippersnappers have no appreciation for the good old guns. I've got a henry .22 and a Winchester '94, pre-64 .30-30 that I dated to the 1940s, and I ain't twenty yet.
it might be location-hunters in flat areas like Texas want spitzer bullets now, not flatnosed thumpers with rainbow trajectories. There's hills and brush everywhere here, and I never see a hunter without some kind of 'brush buster' in his collection.
I doubt I will ever own less leverguns then I do now, and I fully intend to eventually round out my collection with a .45 colt carbine, a .38-55 and a .45-70 or two. if leverguns are dead, then I oughta check my limbs-rigormortis should be setting in soon.
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Finally(Staggolee), Sense from a younger generation shooter!! You got a good start....keep it up. I would like a .38-55 also. Great deer cartridge IMO. It imparts all of its' energy when it doesn't exit. My .45-70 is my favorite. And, welcome to the forum!!
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Imho leverguns are NOT dead they are just as revelvant today as they were in the late 1800s
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One of the best buys these days are the Rossi 92's especially if you like to work on and tinker with guns. They can be (if not already) a slick little rifle/carbine with a little tender loving care. I stripped mine down and carefully de-burred them and changed the springs and they are now, as they say "slicker than snot" and I really enjoyed getting to know them.
I have been looking for a Marlin 1894C in .357 Magnum but the only ones that I have handled so far were really stiff and tight and I know they cannot all be that way.
With my 20" round barrel 38/.357 Magnum Rossi, starting with the hammer down on the safety and one in the chamber, I can dump 12 rounds in about 4 seconds, 13 rounds with .38's with just one finger.
I have all kinds of rifles, AR, M1A, M1 Garand, M1 Carbine and several .22's and I have always wondered what my "go to guns" would be. Well now that I have my Rossi 38/357 and my S&W 66-1, I know exactly which ones they'll be.
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And they look darn good. I want the carbine.
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i took a young man to the range a short time ago. He is 18, and he never fired a gun in his life, except for a paintball gun. I had him shooting a Winchester 9422 rifle and a Smith & Wesson K22 revolver. He loved that rifle. Of course he liked the K22 also, but all he could talk about was how much he loved the 9422. Are lever action rifles dead? Not for this young man. He wants to save his money from a summer job and buy one.
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The only "dead" firearms today are ones like pinfires, teat fires, Rollin White patent evasions, rimfires over .32, smaller companies that didn't make it, etc. Don't see much demand for top break revolvers such as Iver Johnson, H&R, S&W lemon squeezers. Though I would like to see the Colt New Service made available again. There is probably more black powder fired in a year today that in 1863 or 1864. The CAS shooters did a pretty good job of "reviving" the lever action and some "obsolete" cartridges. I can't say if the Winchester 1894 is still "America's Deer Rifle"
but my Marlin 336 has provided this non-hunter with lots of shooting pleasure.
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I was watching the Military Chanel last night and saw an ad for the Henry rifle (lever gun), somebody must be buying them, as those ads don't come cheap.
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Well, I'm confused again. Its OK, I can live with it. Back in 1990 I was milling around a gun show. I had just picked up a pretty nice Browning B78 in .45-70 (cheap, like me). So about 2 aisles over this guy had a pile of nasty old ammo. At least 10 years old and he was pretty much stuck with it. All kinds of old .45-70s, and he had been asking $5 a box for it. So I just pointed out it was way too rich for my blood, I'd like to buy some but surely not at those high prices. So he got real reasonable and said "how much you willing to buy at $4?" Well, I got reasonable and bought it all. I mean, who in their right mind would want obsolete ammo?
So a few aisles over from that I was really loaded down, and so was my buddy. Of course it would be heresy to abandon the show early, so we pressed on. Soon we stumbled upon another guy with a ton of unsalable and obsolete .45-70s. He spotted our load and asked if we'd like more.
So pressing my honesty a little, I said I would but not at the high prices we'd just paid. He asked what that had been, and I told him $4 a box. So he suggested I could buy all of his for only $3 a box! That was the day my buddy swore off going to gun shows with me. Its still filling .50 cal boxes, but someday maybe I'll shoot it.
Now I've got a problem. I include my Browning B78 and 1885s as lever guns. I also include my Browning 1886s as lever guns (they clearly are.) My logic: if a lever opens the action, its a lever gun.
But to continue the .45-70 love fest, we've also got a .45-70 Springfield, a Trapdoor. Its been in the family since 1904 or 1906, the date lost in time. It was bought from the government as surplus and used on the family farm. Also of interest was the fact that a full box of factory/government ammo exceeded the cost of the rifle. How times change. The primary ammo they used was .410 shotgun shells. They were cheaper and easier on the shoulder than 500 lead bullets.
Does anyone know if you can shoot 45 Colt ammo in the .45-70s? I mean Tauri uses them and .410s interchangeably. Maybe the family missed a good bet 100 years ago.
Drew, you still in this thread? Can you still get the BLR in .32-20?
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Random thoughts...
Lever guns are uniquely American.
They were invented and widely used for a reason.
America, back in the day, was the only country where the people were free, and not Subjects. As the Free People expanded west, they encountered "savages". In other parts of the Planet, regular people could not own guns, and all "savages" had already been brought under control.
In A,erica the lever action was the assault rifle of the day.
The US Military never adopted it because the ordinance people were too concerned about volume of fire and traditions.
However the "civilians" going west, facing the "savages" and outlaws ALL took to the lever action.
Fast foward to the 1950's and 1960's and even to today, TV and Movies
about "cowboys" have glamorized the lever actions.
Even today the traditional John Browning and Marlin designs far outsell the modern lever actions.
The Lever Action is an Iconic American Classic.
In todays real world of hunting, they can still bring home the bacon, as good as any rifle in a lot of hunting situations.
As a plus the traditional lever actions are a very rugged, weather resistant design. I have found the Winchesters, and Marlins plenty accurate enough for any hunting the ballistics of their cartridges are suitable for.
Also even today, especially in "assault rifle unfriendly locations, and handgun unfriendly locations", a lever action rifle, especially one in 44 Mag, 45 Colt, or 357 Mag, makes an excellent personal protection "gun".
I myself have used a Winchester 44 Mag Trapper as a traveling "gun" while on the road, and as an animal protection gun when camping in bear country.
I think that the Lever Action rifle will be around for a long time...
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I kinda like the leverguns myself, almost as much as I like Smith & Wessons. And I've added a few more since this pic was taken <G>.
I really need to take some new pics.
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I kinda like the leverguns myself, almost as much as I like Smith & Wessons. And I've added a few more since this pic was taken <G>.
Picked up this little jewel (Glenfield 30GT) on a recent trip to Arkansas.
I really need to take some new pics.
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Well if they're dead I made a better deal than I thought when I recently traded a Winchester 94AE in 30-30 for a S&W Pre 17. I won't part with my Henry .22 and Marlin 38/357.
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Does anyone know if you can shoot 45 Colt ammo in the .45-70s? I mean Tauri uses them and .410s interchangeably. Maybe the family missed a good bet 100 years ago.
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Dick, I wouldn't try to fire .45 Colt ammo in a .45/70. The .45/70 uses a .458" diameter bullet, while the .45 Colt uses either .454" or .452" bullets, depending on age. You might get it to chamber and fire, but I suspect you'd get split cases, venting gas who knows where in the rifle, and the bullet would be very loose in the bore. One upon a time I loaded some .45 Colt bullets in .45/70 cases with a judicious amount of pistol powder to use for plinkers in my trapdoors. That didn't work out so well; accuracy was minute of barn door at almost any range. Ah well, I was then young and foolish.
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I like lever action rifles too, all of mine are Marlins.
I have a first year 336 30-30, built in 1948, a '67 Marlin 336 30-30, a '81 1895S 45-70 and a '81 Model 39.
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The only lever action in my arsenal is a 39A I saw at WalMart that had the most beautiful stock on a $100 rifle I ever saw.
I do respect lever actions, there just isn't any place in my arsenal for one.
My one bit of imagineering goes to this. If I had to choose just one rifle from now till the end of my days and I could still reload, this is what I would want. Sort of the lever action meets the 21 century.
Traditional Model 94 or 73 style, all stainless including internals, 16" barrel, and a synthetic stock in 357 Magnum. Actually, I'd prefer 357 Maximum but I don't think anyone makes that. I dont need any rails or other doo-dads, but I would like flip up ghost ring or peep sights. A rifle like this would also do for the neglected "behind the pickup seat" gun especially with nickel plated brass.
Oh, and one more point for the SKS versus the lever is that most lever actions use a tubular magazine thus needing blunt nose bullets while the SKS uses a box magazine where pointy more BC bullets can be used. On the down side, most SKSs I've ever met weren't terribly accurate, as compared to a good lever action, even WITH pointy bullets.
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got a cabinet full of Lever guns. I am afflicted with Marlinitis in a bad way. Don't tell my wife. I will be in Idaho this fall chaising elk and Mule deer with my 308mx and my 444p.
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I just bought a Rossi 92 in 38SPL/357 Mag. Great shooting gun. I also have a Henry .22Mag that I have owned for a number of years. Lever guns will always be a part of the American gun community....too bad Custer didn't have them instead of the Indians at the battle of Little Bighorn.
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Got my first deer back in 1963 with a Marlin 30-30. Sold it to buy a semi auto(mistake)
My uncle gave me his 1898 made octagon barrel 1/2magizine Model1894 32-40 back in the mid 60s . Took it out a couple times hunting but that barrel length was just to long for deep woods hunting. It’s now a vault queen but does get shot every now and then. It sits next to a 1917 made SRC 30-30 that also gets shot on occasion. Great guns both of them and gaining value by the year
I am seriously think of adding a modern lever to my little collection just to have as a plinking gun. I want to get a .45 Colt and have been reading about the different offerings. I will be going down to my LGS very soon and more than likely going to get a Rossi model 92. Unless somehow a VGC Marlin or Browning crosses my path!
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What can you tell me about the 1892 Trapper Take Down left in the Picture. I would like to purchase one here in Austria! Is the 16 Inch Barrel whit 1-38 or 1-26 Twist? I heard that Miroku also produces Microgroove-Barrels?? Please can you teach me?
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As an industry i think they are dead. But they do have a market. They make good trunk guns, and can obviously still be used for hunting. The accuracy and ballistics are very similar to the AK.
I owned an older Marlin 336 and it was nice and all but i traded it for a 30-06 bolt gun. The caliber is much more accurate and versatile than the 30-30
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Since somebody revived this thread, let me say that during the January madness when ARs were doubling in price, my LGS sold me a Winchester Legacy, "used" but unfired, for $350 plus tax. It's a Model 94 with a 24" barrel, pistol grip and nice checkering, in .45 Colt. It handles beautifully, and I like it a lot--even the homely crossbolt safety, surprisingly.
I figure that considering the money I saved by not buying an AR, I can afford to buy ammo at a dollar-plus a round. And if I spring for some hopped-up Buffalo Bore ammo, that rifle should handle any grizzlies that might invade this part of North Carolina.
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When I was 18 in 1994 I bought my first levergun, a brand new Model 94 Winchester, one of the last ones without the crossbolt safety. I have had five or six in that caliber since. I have also owned two Marlin .32-20's. One and 1894CL and a 1889. I also had a Marlin 1894CL in .25-20. I owned a Marlin 336 in .35 Remington from the 1950's as well as a Model 1895 .45-70. I owned an original Winchester 1873 in .38-40 as well as an 1892 Winchester in .38-40, along with a .25-35 Winchester Model 1894 SRC. I wish I still had that one, it was a real cowboy gun, well sort of. It came from a Utah sheep ranch and was made in 1909. It had been in the same family from day one until one relative moved back here and put it away for thirty years. It was so worn that the forearm was square from going in and out of a saddle scabbard. The buttstock broke at one time and the original owner took a piece of rough cut Ponderosa pine and made that into a buttstock complete with the buttplate. Somewhere the top of the frame was cracked too. But the gun actually worked. I got it later on after the work was done and the weld was flawless. Someone else put another stock on it and put the original carbine sight on it. The gun's rifling and bore were perfect and it shot one inch groups at 25 yards. Sadly I sold it to pay bills. I also had a Model 1894 Winchester rifle with the 26 inch octagon barrel and tang sight. I don't have any levers right now unless you count my son's new Savage/ Stevens Favorite remake. I hope to get another Model 94 Winchester in .30-30 someday.
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I have more than couple leverguns, Rossi, Uberti, Winchester and Marlin Love to shoot them all. In fact I prefer them
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Picked up a Rossi 92 in .357/.38 recently.
It shares ammo with my Smiths.
Not dead.
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05-05-2013, 06:40 PM
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There's been a resurgence around here, far from dead.
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05-05-2013, 06:55 PM
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I too am fond of the .38/.357 carbine and revolver combo.
I hunt with all kinds of rifles including those with pump, semi-auto, and bolt actions. But I probably hunt with one lever gun or another twice as often as the others combined.
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05-05-2013, 07:07 PM
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Hey, All,
I still love lever guns, and my Marlin1895SS is one very accurate .45-70! I put a 4x, simple reticle, scope on it, and when I shoot it regularly, can put a milk jug at 300 yards very regularly! Of course, the 300 grain slug rainbows in on the jug, but hey, it hits it almost every time, if I do my part!
I had an old 1908 Winchester '94, .30-30, which I loved, and which was quite accurate. However, I gave it up as part of a trade to a Winchester guy, who has an almost mint Freedom Arms .454 Casull, with adjustable iron sights, plus a 2x Leupold pistol scope and ring, AND both Pachmayr rubber grips and a set of genuine ivory grips, too!! Couldn't resist, and though I do miss that old Winchester, all I have to do is remember the one hole targets the Casull gives me for five rounds, and I feel it was worth the trade! Take care, and God Bless!
Every Good Wish,
Doc
P.S. If I ever find a nice Marlin .41 mag carbine, for an honest price, I'd certainly buy one! Had a chance at one for only $200, but it was a real piece of junk, and had been horribly abused, so I let it pass on by.
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My newest levergun. Rossi M92 Trapper in .45 Colt.
I have about 250 rounds through it. Only problem
so far is one failure to feed caused apparently by the
magazine tube spring hanging on some rough spot in
the tube. I first thought I had short-stroked, but I
remembered hearing a "swishing" sound on the next
round. That was in about the third magazine I shot.
Since then, I have heard the "swish" as the spring
released, but there have been no more failures.
I am hoping that things will continue to smooth out.
Actually, except for that issue, it is a mighty slick little piece.
It feeds both my Keith style SWCs as well as the RNFP bullets from GA Arms.
It seems very accurate at the ranges I have used it (30-50 yards) and it is
a hoot to keep the steel plates ringing with those big old 250-255 grain bullets.
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