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02-23-2012, 06:48 PM
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Help With Identification
I am new here and hope to have help in identifying a Topbreak 38 Cal. 5 Shot Revolver. It looks like a S&W but the barrel is 3 3/4", total length 8", and the trigger is shaped differently. Also, the insignia (logo) is not "S&W" but another that I am not familiar with. Also has engraved on the side " Trade Mark MG with a Crown in the middle." I have not been able to find any Top Breaks that have a 3 3/4" barrel. It has the usual checkered grip with Serial No. 1649 on the butt. Any help will be appreciated.
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02-23-2012, 07:06 PM
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can you post pics? they will help the experts id your gun.
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02-23-2012, 07:06 PM
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also welcome to the forum
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02-23-2012, 07:30 PM
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Check out my album. Have uploaded a photo of the revolver and also the logo and trademark.
Thanks for the welcome.
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02-23-2012, 07:38 PM
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Looks like a European copy of a S&W, which was very common in the late 1800s. Are there any oval marks on the back of the cylinder with an ELG inside? That would be a Belgium copy. Let us know if you find any other marks. I am not familiar with the stamping on the sideplate. The crown looks like similar to Italian crown marks, but I don't recognize the letters. Maybe someone will reply witht the answer.
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02-23-2012, 07:46 PM
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I agree with Glowe. It's definably not a S&W. The grip logo is very similar to the ones on S&W copies made in the Eibar area of Spain. If it's Spanish, it won't have the Belgian proofs. Ed.
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02-23-2012, 08:15 PM
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No oval marks. Will check out Eibar. Thanks.
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02-23-2012, 08:36 PM
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That looks like a stylized Hermanos Orbea logo -- an Eibar gunmaker.
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02-25-2012, 10:40 AM
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Top Break id.
The logo appears to be that of Guisola Bros., an Eibar copy.
Interesting point, the Guisola Bros. were I believe specifically mentioned in the Smith & Wesson law suit against patent infringement in the late 1890's.
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02-25-2012, 12:24 PM
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Yes. It looks like Spanish to me to. Very crude made Spanish copy.
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