Just wondering how you like it ? What kind of handgun you shoot the round out of how does it compare to a 9mm +P or 40 ?

I do and have a Glock 31 (full size), Glock 32 (compact)
& Glock 33 (sub-compact), all chambered for the .357 SIG round.

A little more brisk than the 9mm +P and since I've never had a
40 cal I can't speak to how it compares to that round.

Sold off my Glock 26 (9mm sub-compact) so now it's just .357 SIG
& .45 acp when it comes to larger caliber semi autos for me.

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The recoil is similar to the M&P40, faster and snapper than the M&P9.

I too have a G31. Love the round and agree that it seems to be a hot little CTG! Faster than a 40 and "snappier" than a 9mm.

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I've used it for several years in a Glock 31, a Glock 32 and a SIG 226. It's LOUD, sometimes has a lot of muzzle flash and it's very reliable. We testing some "bullet proof" glass with several handguns once - it was about 2" thick and was made up of 12 laminates of some sort of polymer. It stopped 9mm ball, 45 ACP ball, .357 mag., .44 mag and several others, but the .357 SIG went through about 3/4 of the time. Very impressive penetration. It's a round I like very much.

My son just purchased a Glock 32 and we had it to the range for the first time today. I'd have to say it's very snappy and I thinks it's more snappier than my Glock 27.
Since I was also shooting my new to me Smith 13 I'd have to say it's louder as well!
We had a good day at the range!

A few years ago I bought a used Gen. III Glock 31, just to try out the cartridge at long range targets. The .357 Sig hits as hard at 100 yards as a 9mm Parabellum does at the muzzle. It shoots flat, recoil is more manageable than a .40 S&W. That gun was stolen, and I replaced it with a Glock 32. The 31 was recently recovered and I should get it back after the trial. Ammo is pricey.

I have owned three handguns in .40 S&W. Sig P239, BHP, Glock 22. The Glock is the only one I have left. I do not care for this cartridge much due to the recoil.

been shooting one since the p-229 came out years ago. i load all my own ammo,so i can vary it to what i want. as factory ammo,it is loud,quite snappy recoil, and really is not for the beginner. ear protection is a must. would hate to have to shoot inside a car or house with one.

I have shot it more in P229s than anything else. My experience has been good. Recoil is nothing special and I have always had good luck with accuracy of all of the factory loads I have used, Remington's 125-gr FMJ being the best of the inexpensive target-type rounds so far. It's a nice round that probably is better than the .38 Super in some ways, but for my uses, I still prefer the Super.

I have a Wlather P99 in .40 S&W with a Bar Sto .357 Sig barrel. The .40 S&W barrel is never in the gun. The 125 grain .357 Sig FMJ, IMO, does have more recoil than the 180 grain .40 S&W FMJ, and it is MUCH louder. However, at least with the Bar Sto barrel, it is much more accurate than the .40 S&W in the same gun.
I had a Glock 32 and I really didn't like it, but the ergonomics of the Walther, and I imagine the M&P too, make shooting the .357 Sig much easier than the Glock.

I have shot them (glock 32 and sig p229), but I dont own one.

I think the 357 sig cartridge is today what 40 s&w was in the mid to late 90's. The fashionable new "ballistically superior" cartridge. It fits between 9mm and 40 s&w I guess.

I personally dont see a point to it.

I carried a Glock 33 for a short time...While transporting high risk 'defendants'.
Couldn't say 'bout preformance...None tried to escape.

Su Amigo,
Dave

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The .357 SIG seems to be one of those cartridges thats maligned by all but those who actually SHOOT it. Very flat shooting , certainly a step up from the +P 9mm loads.

Several large LE Agencies to include the Air Marshalls use it. Carried one on the Hwy Patrol out here for several years and really liked it. Seemed to work a bit better than it's paper ballistics suggested it should.

Forget if it was the Winchester or Speer 125 gr loads, but they crono'd at 1350 from our SIG 229's. Like carrying a 4" .357 mag with 125's but it holds THIRTEEN rds. Not abad thing at all.

FN in MT

I keep debating getting a barrel or two for my Sigs to try out this round. Then of course reloading dies. Kinda on the fence about it. On paper it sure looks good but how much better than say a 165 gr or less 40 SW???

What will it do that the 40 SW will not?

Found this thread:

Does .357 Sig have more recoil than a .40 S&W?

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I have the barrel for my 229 but have only shot it once. If and when the Ammo. comes back down to a fairly reasonable cost I may try to acclimate my self with it more and, maybe even switch to it for EDC.

My son has a Glock in that caliber, and his wife has a SIG-P-229. They like the load, and seem to have no trouble with recoil. But they are experienced shooters.

The wife is about 5 feet nine inches and maybe 120 pounds. She likes the P-229 in .357 very much. But she can handle a Colt .45 auto well, too. It's more about traiining and spirit than size when it comes to dealing with recoil.

Marshall 357,

The Glock 32 is my primary off duty sidearm. Recoil is brisk to say the least. I was fortunate to get a Hartz Recoil Reducer before he went out of business. It makes a BIG difference.

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Have 2 Sig P229's one in .40 S&W and one in .357 Sig, Shoot them twice a month and carry them often. Price of good ammo for the .357 Sig keeps me from pushing it ahead of the .40 S&W, Both will keep you safe, but there is only so much money for training ammo so I train with the .40 and carry the .357 Sig when one might bump into the Wolf.

Expensive to shoot, and as noted: LOUD. LOUD. REALLY LOUD. I have a G33. It is carried a lot, rarely shot. I used it the last few years as a BUG in uniform, and as my EDC in a Kramer pocket holster. I don't have any significant experience with the .40, (only shot a bit out of a USP, and it seemed ok), so I cannot compare recoil. I don't recall a lot of muzzle rise, but I had a red hand with G33 grip indents in it when I tested it right after buying it.

I bought it as an experiment, and given the logistics of ammo supply, don't think the incrimental difference was worth it. I was at a class a few years ago with a couple of NCHP guys, and they spoke well of it. I have never heard anything bad about its performance on humans from any agency which uses it.

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I've shot and carried it extensively in a Sig P229 (also have the .40 barrel). It is snappier than the 40 but I find it to be a little more accurate in that particular handgun. I like it a lot. I've currently got a local gunsmith working on a custom .40 Browning Hi-Power with a .357 Sig conversion barrel. I'm excited to try that one!

I've had a P229 in .40 S&W for 10+ years. About 8 years ago, I picked up a .357 Sig barrel on the net for $100. I really liked the P229 before that, but once I shot .357 Sig, I found a carry gun for life!

The bottlenecked shell is 100% reliable. The .40's, I've had feeding problems with 180 gr ammo. The .357, shoots to the same sight setting as the .40 and the sight picture works for me out to 100 yds, I'm still using the factory Sig "dot the I" sights and not compensating for drop.

I've used .357 Sig on bowling pin matches and boy does it clear the table better than .40. I can clean a table of bowling pins faster with a P229 in .357 faster than I can with either my P220 or a 1911 in .45.
With the P229, I've won a couple of bowling pin matches, with either the P220, 1911 or 27/28 Smith, the best I could do was second place.

While it is louder and has a bit of blast concussion, I prefer it to the .40, as I can get back on the sights much quicker.

I doubt that I'll ever be without a .357 Sig or an N' frame .357 Magnum. Ballistics are real close .357 Sig is the closest thing to a good 125 gr. 357 Mag load that I've ever found.

My favorites are:

Revolver: .22 LR, .357 Mag & .38 Spl
Pistol .357 Sig & .45 Auto

PS: I've been a 9mm for over 25 years, now I've gotten rid of my Belgian Browning HP 9mm (that I've had for over 30 years) and ordered a Bar-Sto 9mm barrel for my P229! That's how much I like the platform.

FYI: I do shoot .40 out of it, but only for practice. Since .40 Smith is cheaper than .357 Sig. I don't carry .40 at all, I have total faith in the .357.

Only thing that keeps the 357 sig from becoming my favorite round is the power potential of the 10mm. I like guns that are more accurate than I am. That may be most of them, but that's beside the point. I seem to be able to shoot pretty well with the sig round. I first had a Glock 22 converted with a drop-in Barsto barrel in 357, then a Sig 239. In the case of the g22 it was a big leap in accuracy over the factory 40 barrel.

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Does the 357 SIG have any of the "cartridge not fully supported by the chamber" issues that the .40 cal. does?

357 magnum performance in a high capacity auto loader. What's not to like.?If you shop the interweb you can find deals on good ammo. I shoot the 357 sig in a Sig 229 and 250. Very accurate. No more recoil than a 40 caliber IMO. Check out the performance tests on the 357 sig on tnoutdoor9's you tube site. Very impressive.

Probably not if you buy a after market barrel. If it is a stock Glock barrel I do not know. The Glockettes would know about that.

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Mine is a Glock 32. I like both the size of the weapon and the round. As others have said, snappier than a 9mm. Nothing bad to say about either the round or the gun.

for those talking about cost of ammo, does no one reload? brass is easy to find and no more expensive to load than 9mm.

My barsto 357 g22 barrel looks to be nearly 100% supported. I don't feel like unloading the Sig 239 to check right now, so I'll assume it is supported, probably more so than one in .40. I'm starved and want to go stuff my face.

edit:Took them both apart. I'm full and happy, so here's some so-so pics of chamber support. Looks nearly complete, but the sig has slightly less support.

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The .357 SIG is currently my designated duty weapon. The issue weapon is a 229-the all steel stainlesss version. Recoil in the heavier gun is mild IMHO, accuracy is excellent. I just fitted a .357 barrel to my HiPower and have been carrying it even though I lose 3 rounds capacity, the HP being one of my favorites.
My youngest son was in an officer involved shooting out west last year, he was using a Glock .357 and the BG went down like he had been poleaxed.
I am getting to like the SIG, but I bought an M&P in .357 instead, initial impression is excellent.

I have an M&P357 too and I believe it would shoot right along with the SIG229 (which is pretty good) if I could handle the trigger as well. I am going to have to look into adjusting the M&P trigger. It does not seem to be "getting better" with use.

For quite some time I have considered buying a 357 Sig barrel for my M&P40. Cost is about $90 to $100 but it would be great to have.

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Thanks for the pics. I'd be leaning toward the 239, so this helps.

If your concerned about chamber support, compare it to a .40. I wonder why I see concerns about chamber support in any .40 pistol. I can only think maybe the larger diameter bullet for the 9mm sized gun? I know the 40 glock barrel I pulled out of the g22 had a lot of case exposure at the ramp.

Hope you go for the sig round. The 239 is a nice size for carry, I feel like I'm wearing nothing at all. And I never thought I could transform a stupid glock into a near target grade gun until I put that BarSto in it.

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The .40 is a very high pressure round, and also very prone to setback. The .357Sig is also high pressure, but not near as prone to set back, and also has a more stoutly built case as I understand it.

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At the risk of sounding gun stooopid, what is "set back"?

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had a few different guns in 357 sig LOVE the round but ammo costs are just too high for me right now. owned a sig229, M&P357, Glock 32c liked them all
but traded the glock and some ammo for a winchester 94, now i have 2 94's. and yes 357 sig is loud.

When recoil or other reasons cause the rounds in the magazine to push deeper into the case. There was a thread about this the other day, warning that in some autoloaders, repeatedly cycling a round into the chamber can also cause the bullet to set back. This can be more of an issue with higher pressure rounds in autoloaders than revolvers, due to the fact that you cannot crimp the autoloader rounds as much.

It is a fun round. Easy to reload for and I shoot mine a lot.

I have over 10,000 rounds down my 229 sport and it is still "banging away".

The sig is fast accurate and reliable. What more can I say?

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The main problem about which I was speaking comes from repeated chambering of the same rounds. As a general rule, once I chamber a round in an autoloader, I dispose of it, usually by firing it. I rarely unload that round any other way. Setback is the pushing of the bullet into the cartridge case as a result of force, usually the force of hitting the ramp and entering the chamber under the relatively harsh mechanics of properly loading technique. Some rounds are more prone to it than others, and it takes very little movement to reduce the case capacity enough to really bump up the pressure, often past the tolerance of the cartridge case and/or pistol. Bad stuff often follows.

I have recently become aware of the concern that this could occur with some rounds in ultra light pistols, similar to the "pulling" of some bullets in really light revolvers. In the pistol, this is a result of the rounds in the magazine being slammed into the mag by recoil force. I am not a physicist so I am not qualified to have an opinion as to the likelihood of this happening.

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Is it really that much better than light weight 40? You can find 40sw hollow points down to 135gr. The differences on paper look very minimal.

Does the bottle neck make it harder to reload?

I guess I am in the "would like to try it" boat, but am very reluctant to fork out what a new barrel would cost. I also like to stick with the more common calibers so I don't end up being Betta-ed

Actually, I consider the 357 sig one of the easiest rounds to reload I do. It ranks right up there with the 38 special in "no brains required" but you have to follow a few simple rules.

First, you have to be worried about setback of the bullet. To solve that problem use AA9 powder. It fills the case, supports the bullet and practically will not allow setback. Second use the right bullet. You need a long shank, so I do mostly Rem 115 and 124 grn JHP's. Mostly the 115's. Works great. 88 Grn Serra Jhp's are also fun and 147 XTP's also. Any bullet with a long straight shank that you can get the short neck on to. The worst are the long ogive 9mm luger bullets that are slowly rounded. Avoid them like the plague.

Now, you need to lube the brass or use a dillon die or use both. I use both. Works great.

Next this is one of the few rounds I use a factory crimp die on. The die has to be one of the collet types and I believe that is all they make but I don't keep up on the them much.

So to reiterate:
AA9 powder
Dillon die and lube
Lee collet factory crimp die
Rem 115 JHP or similar straight shank bullet

Follow those rules and you will love the 357 sig. I know I have shot over 10,000 rounds like that and every round has been fun. The sig is just a great round to shoot.

Someone asked about why the sig over a light 40. I like the longer bullet in the weight and 9mm bullets are cheaper than 40's in general. Also I love to shoot 88 grn "screamers" as I call them. Load up some hot AA9 loads with 88 grn jhp's and I have exceeded 1700 FPS out of my 229 sport. They are accurate and shoot like lasers!

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