What's to keep you from "aquiring" larger cap magazines. What if you bought a new gun, like say for instance, a Model 41 and you already had some 12 round mags. Is that legal? Do they have special squads of hi cap mag police? I was assuming any old mags were grandfathered in, but as I thought about it, I realized I shouldn't assume that.

I can see it now.
Mr Prosecutor: Your Honor the defendant deserves the death penalty for exceeding the max allowable magazine by 2 rounds. A truly heinous crime!

Mr Defense Attorney: But your Honor, 3 rounds were duds.

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yes they are grandfathered in the ban started jan 1,2000 you can no longer buy hi cap mags in this state as a non leo , i did buy hi cap mini 14 2 days prior to the ban though so i am considering getting a mini 14 even though the ar is the hottest thing going right now.

I like ARs and I like Minis and have multiple copies of each. I would take a Mini to battle any day of the week. I especially like the Mini 30 which shoots the 7.62x39 far more accuately than the SKS or AK.

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I have never understood this exemption for LEO's, and I am one! What is good for those who maintain Law and Order, should be equally as good for those who obey the Law and Order!

Ok, I feel better now.

I bought my kid a used Beretta 92 when he was about to get out of the Marines. It had that stoopid ten round mag with a plastic spacer to take up the rest of the space in the butt. I think if he or I were caught having this gun with a higher cap mag. we'd be arrested. I think my purchase date tells authorities I got this gun AFTER the ban and therefore THIS GUN cannot have one. BTW. My son liked my 3913 better so i gave him that and sold the Beretta.

they's called ...Pre Ban.

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i live in california and 10 rds is the max. sure, you can acquire all the large round mags you want from out of state thru a friend, but if you are caught with it your weapon can be confisticated along with a fine, license withdrawn, etc. it is jus not worth it.

Weren't all magazine over 10rd capacity produced during the ban required to have the date of manufacture and/or "military or law enforcement use only" stamped into them?

New York State passed an Assault Weapons Ban that mirrors the expired Federal ban. Any magazine of over 10 rounds capacity (large capacity ammunition feeding device) manufactured before September 14, 1994 is perfectly legal to own and use.

Any LCAFD manufactured after that date is a felony charge. Unless you are a member of law enforcement.

David

If you had 15 round mags before the ban, they can be used in the newer Beretta.

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In MA, any pre-ban mag already owned is legal (if you have a "hi-cap" license, which happens to be the same license you need for concealed carry), and people occasionally sell them privately within the state. Obviously, a mag actually made after the ban is a no-no; this would include any mag marked "LE only," any mag marked as to date of manufacture after the beginning of the ban, and any mag which was never manufactured before the ban.

I am under the vague impression that enforcement is near non-existent, but I have not really paid close attention, because I mostly had all the mags I needed long before the ban started.

What do they do about people moving from one of the free states?

If I were to move from New Mexico to California, would I have to register all of many CA-unfriendly guns with someone? Or would I have to get rid of them first?

It would sure seem like there would be a brisk trade in unmarked hi-cap mags being driven across the border.

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Well, here in NY not just any LEO can get high caps. A police officer yes, but a peace officer, such as myself needs to get permission on department letterhead. (how the law reads but few shops follow). I was told by more than one shop owner that there is such a mess of who can have high caps and who can't that its pointless to try. What I have been told is that anything after the 1994 AWB went into effect are marked law enforcement only. After 2004 the ban federally went away but here in NY that is still in effect. If you get caught with a post ban mag, you are going to be arrested. Now the big issue is how to tell the difference. I have been told that some have different size lettering from pre to post ban. I know that yes, their are LE agencies looking for them, especially here in NY after the Tucson shooting. I have been at gunshows where there are uniformed State Troopers walking around and asking if there were any high caps. I also have seen some BATF guys in suits asking the same questions. To be honest I would have nothing to do with them, not right now. There is just too much of a risk of having some cop who can't tell one from another, and believe me I know some LEO's who will bust other LEO's for carrying off duty and personal guns with high caps. I had a discussion with a road cop in my own department a couple of months back who absolutely hates the fact there are people out there carrying guns with high cap mags, and he made it clear he will arrest people for violating the law on that. There is not so much of a "grandfathering" as some think. There is also not as much as a free pass for LEO's either. But I agree, if a cop can carry off duty with high caps, then so should everyone else.

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In California, if the hi-cap magazine is Law Enforcement marked, then it is restricted. If it is not marked, then it is no big deal unless there is irrefutable proof that it was obtained after the ban. If any police officer is spending his time checking magazine capacities, then he has too much time on his hands and needs to get back to work.

I was told there are differences in ther newer post-ban hi cap Glock mags, and aren't marked leo. Don't know about other brands.

I stocked up on pre bans in the 90's, paid black market prices for something that was legal in CA at the time.

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if i understand the law correctly you have to leave them there or bring them here at turn them in to the communist regime , unless there is a provision for lets say an ar 15 with detachable mag and make the magazine fixed by bullet button or some other means i am not entirely sure though about that one maybe maybe jag312 might chime in and give us some light on the subject.

Your attitude definitely puts you in the minority...

OP... it's not illegal to own or posses "standard" cap magazines. I could legally go to Arizona, buy a passel of standard mags, disassemble them and bring them home as bags of parts.

The trouble begins when I start putting them in the gun. I'm a bit fuzzy on when the actual crime begins. Good info on all that here...
www.calguns.net

My bottom feeders are mostly .45s so doesn't really affect me much. Sure wish I could get Ruger to make some 10 rd Mini-30 mags tho.

15 capacity in NJ
No grandfather
Do not have a magazine greater than 15 in NJ
I would not even get the 15 in case a 16th could be crammed in
For me 10 is plenty

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If you have an off-list AR clone with a bullet button magazine release, then you can only have a 10-round magazine in the rifle. There is no restriction on having pre-ban hi-cap magazines, just don't get caught with one in your rifle. Always keep a 10-round magazine in your bullet button rifle.

I have also seen bullet button magazine releases on off-list AKs.

I know that California DOJ has investigators at gun shows in adjacent states, like the Reno gun shows. They watch to see who is buying large quantities of hi-cap magazines, follow them out to their car, and record their license plate number if it has a California license plate. Other than this, I am not aware of any concern about non-residents moving to California with hi-cap magazines.

We all exceed the speed limit at times, but nobody in their right mind calls the Highway Patrol to confess to speeding. Get my point?

I live in a 10 rd State, and could care less about hi-caps either way. Much ado about nothing. I typically carry 10 rds, (2) 5 shot Airweights.

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