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Old 04-12-2012, 06:52 PM
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I shoot about once a month. I thought I was a pretty good shooter. I usually shoot at least a cylinder full out of my carry gun at the end of each trip to the range. I usually dont practice with my carrry gun but thought shooting other guns was good enough.
My carry gun is a model 60.
Today I set up 3 targets and practiced a fairly quick draw from a concealed carry position. then 2 shots into the first two targets and one shot into the third. From 15 yards.
WOW, First try, missed the first target all together then 1 hit on the second and 1 hit barely on the edge of the paper on the third.
I do this kind of shooting with my 1911 and other hand guns and do a lot better than this.
I think I will start practicing with my carry gun more than 5 shots a month. I thought shooting any gun would keep me sharp with my carry gun. It didn't.

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Old 04-12-2012, 07:21 PM
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Try going to the range once a week, if possible. The model 60 is not easy to master (especially with the 2 inch bbl). Sight alignment is critical. If you are shooting dbl. action, try 7 yrds till you get small groups, then move back to 15yrds. Use light loads to get lots of practice, then go to the std carry load. Model 60 is a fine revolver, but needs lot's of practice.
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:28 PM
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Sounds like good advice. When this rain ever stops I'm going out with my 638. Haven't shot it this year.
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:33 PM
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It doesn't sound so far, but 15 yards is a long way to be shooting in a self-defense situation. I consider my 2" guns to be 5 to 7 yard weapons. I figure if the bad guy is 15 yards away, and he isn't actively shooting at me, then I am better off hunting cover or putting more distance between me and him. I do practice with my snub guns at longer ranges, but not a whole lot.
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DA revolvers require a good bit of extra discipline to master over an auto, especially one like your garden variety 1911 which is for the most part right there and breaks like glass.
work with that wheel gun till you can slow fire decent groups out to 25 or so and see what happens to how you handle your 1911
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It doesn't sound so far, but 15 yards is a long way to be shooting in a self-defense situation. I consider my 2" guns to be 5 to 7 yard weapons. I figure if the bad guy is 15 yards away, and he isn't actively shooting at me, then I am better off hunting cover or putting more distance between me and him. I do practice with my snub guns at longer ranges, but not a whole lot.

Agree. See also the "21 foot rule". Basically from 21' and closer, an aggressor can attack before you can respond. Beyond 21', no immediate danger unless (as noted) receiving incoming fire.

It would be difficult to call shooting someone from 45' away "self defense".
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Thanks guys. That is good advice. I guess it does make sense that a revolver shooting double action is a lot different than an auto.
I figured if I can shoot small groups at 15 yards, I should be effective at 5 to 7 yards in a high stress situation.
I plan on practicing a lot more. Hopefully I will have a better report in a couple of months. I do shoot more often in the summer.

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15 yards is Paris Gun range for a gunfight; 7 yards is much closer to reality.
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All things being unequal---I practice at 7 yards.
It seems to me, in the house will be no more than 7 yards.
I do understand the 21 foot rule--I just think that most all shootings happen at this range or closer.
If it should happen in a parking lot--I likee the term Paris gun range---I might have an opportunity for more decisions. Still, in a lot, the range is going to be CQC if robbery is the attempt.
I just hope I am aware of what is happening and can square the deal.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:38 AM
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Wingmaster, dry-firing that Model 60 a few thousand times will do two things; 1. it will smooth out the action a lot, and 2. it will help with your trigger control, muscle memory, and all that stuff. You also have a good excuse for another purchase . . . if you don't own a j-frame .22, get one. I believe shooting my 2" Model 34 and 4" Model 63 has really helped me learn to control the 2" .38 j-frames. Thousands of rounds of .22 are a whole lot cheaper than thousands of rounds of .38 special, even if you reload.
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