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Old 05-17-2012, 10:39 PM
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I recently won in an online auction an item described as a GSG-5 German Sport 22LR
It was in fact an Bushmaster AR-15 9mm pistol the pictured lot (Bushmaster Ar-15 pistol) was on the bushmaster's box and tag with the lot number #206 but had the wrong description.

When I went back to view the lot number I noticed the lot below it #207 was described as a Bushmaster AR-15 9mm Pistol, but what was pictured was the GSG-5 German Sport 22L on it clearly marked box.

Both lots are clearly tagged with a lot number on a white tag hanging off the trigger guard.

I purchased lot #206, this I believed to be a Bushmaster AR-15 9mm Pistol that had been improperly described as a GSG-5, improperly described item are common place in auctions -thus the buyer be ware warnings.I had no idea of the 2nd improperly described gun. Obviously the Description had been switched, I purchased the pictured lot not the Description.

What do you think will happen?

I paid 250.00 plus 18% fee, a great deal for the Bushmaster($700.to $800.) and a good deal for the GSG-5 ($590.00 retail)

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Old 05-17-2012, 10:45 PM
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What do you think will happen?
Why ask us?
You should be talking to the auction company.
Our speculations won't mean much.......
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:57 PM
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I guess the reason I am asking, is now that I see the error they made I feel guilty or I feel I did something wrong but I am not sure I should. In other words I was playing fair, now I feel I did something wrong. No good deed goes unpunished.
That's why I was looking for feed back
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:58 PM
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Most places have the description pegged to the item, not the picture. You'll probably receive the GSG.
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I've played this game with online estate auctions myself. I have had everything happen from nearly winning a non-gun at Registered Magnum money through to winning a gun at 30% of its real value because the auctioneer screwed up, missed it the first time then went back to it. In the confusion the other bidders got lost and I got lucky. There is not much in the way of right or wrong in this except to remember that most auctioneers are the absolute authority in their own house and what they say goes, like it or not.

Worst one I had was an auctioneer who just did not want to knock down a milsurp to me, an online bidder, for under $200. He spent a good 2-3 minutes squeezing another $10 out of somebody in the room and then wanted to up the increments to $25 a pop, so I said screw it and let it go. The very next item he knocked down to me in 20 seconds or less for $300, about 60% or less of what it was worth. Just goes to show that they only thinking $$ and not the best price for each item on its merits.
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You should ask questions BEFORE you bid. If you assume there is a mistake in the listing but take a chance with the odds instead of verifying you have no complaint if you get the wrong item. That said, I hope you receive the one you wanted.
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:07 AM
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I'm confused. What did you actually WANT?

Either way it seems you won.

If it is the AR you won BIG if it is the 22 than good also.
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I would tell the auctioneer that the firearm was mislabeled. Differences between models or relative condition is one thing but two totally different brands or type is another.

Someone out there is going to be real angry if they are expecting a AR pistol but will be receives a GSG. The auctioneer may cancel the auction due to misrepresentation or loss or may let the bid stand; either way, it puts your mind as ease and in the good graces with the auctioneer for future transactions.
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Well I thought it over and decided to talk to the auctioneer as handejector suggested.I explained the situation and how I felt the guy who purchased the Bushmaster would be very upset if he got a GSG-5 in it's place .

I also explained that I would be more than happy with GSG-5 even though it was not what was pictured as my lot.

The GSG-5, 22LR pistol is MP-5 clone made in Germany.

I called and explained the situation and offered to take the GSG-5 (lot 207) in place of the lot I won 206,it took a few minutes before they understood what I was offering but in the end we agreed on the swap.

In a earlier post Rule 3 asked what gun I was after, the honest answer is I was looking at a pre model 27 that was also improperly described in the same auction, they were calling it a S&W 357 with no model number but it went for more than I was willing to pay.

At that point I was looking for "a deal" I was trolling the remaining lots in the auction looking for something to buy that was undervalued.I was only a couple of lots ahead of the online auctioneer when I saw the description for the GSG-5, I glanced at the picture and realized something was not right, but by that time the auctioneer had caught up with me, so I bid on the item to keep the biding alive figuring it would go for more and thus giving me a few seconds to think what to do. That one bid won the auction.

Still a GSG-5 for $250.00 plus shipping and the 18% auction fee is a lot cheaper than I could buy one for at my local gun store, the retail in my area is in the $500. to $590 for GSG-5.and I won it for a total of $330.00. So I saved $200. bucks on a gun I felt was overpriced at $500. plus dollars.I figure to shoot it some and give it to my son for Christmas, if he good or get a stamp and put a stock on it as it's the pistol configuration.
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I would have send a note with the payment stating you want the gun that was pictured with the auction.
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