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Old 05-23-2012, 10:01 PM
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Briefly, yesterday I went by the range and shot my new to me used SA-GI 1911-A1, my 66-3 and my 18-3. When I got in the car to go home I saw a black hairy looking spider on the passenger seat, which probably got in the car when I rolled up the fired targets. I hit it but did not kill it. I don't know if I got it hard enough to really injure it. It ran up under one of the seats. I have not been able to find it.

Does anyone know of a site where I can look to find out if this is a dangerous spider? Does anyone know how I can kill it? Would a fogger such as one might use in a room in a house work? Suggestions/ideas requested. Sincerely. brucev.
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It ran up under one of the seats. I have not been able to find it.

Does anyone know how I can kill it? .
You could try making a buzzing sound like a fly to lure it out and whack it...if it doesn't come out, driving into a lake should kill it...
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Bruce,

Did you see any markings other than black? The black widow has an orange spot, I believe on its under side. As I recall, its bite is somewhat poisonous but not enough to do serious, long-term harm to an adult in normal health.

I'm thinking the most dangerous one is the brown recluse, which has a black mark shaped like a violin(not kidding here) on its back, as I recall.

At any rate, I would think a Google search or two would find you what you need.

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Briefly, yesterday I went by the range and shot my new to me used SA-GI 1911-A1, my 66-3 and my 18-3. When I got in the car to go home I saw a black hairy looking spider on the passenger seat, which probably got in the car when I rolled up the fired targets. I hit it but did not kill it. I don't know if I got it hard enough to really injure it. It ran up under one of the seats. I have not been able to find it.

Does anyone know of a site where I can look to find out if this is a dangerous spider? Does anyone know how I can kill it? Would a fogger such as one might use in a room in a house work? Suggestions/ideas requested. Sincerely. brucev.
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There are no practical alternatives to burning the vehicle, unless you are able to positively identify the arachnid as among those whose venom is non-fatal, at least to the degree that it won't incapacitate you while driving in heavy traffic ... Meanwhile, you risk your own life, as well as your passengers' and other motorists, while driving around with this creature lurking, probably under the dashboard, ready at any moment to leap out and climb up your leg and nip you in your most sensitive regions, causing you intense pain and to abandon control of your vehicle and careen out of control into oncoming traffic, with schoolbuses carrying orphaned children to Sunday School, and OMG!!!

Well, you probably get the point ...
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Briefly, yesterday I went by the range and shot my new to me used SA-GI 1911-A1, my 66-3 and my 18-3. When I got in the car to go home I saw a black hairy looking spider on the passenger seat, which probably got in the car when I rolled up the fired targets. I hit it but did not kill it. I don't know if I got it hard enough to really injure it. It ran up under one of the seats. I have not been able to find it.

Does anyone know of a site where I can look to find out if this is a dangerous spider? Does anyone know how I can kill it? Would a fogger such as one might use in a room in a house work? Suggestions/ideas requested. Sincerely. brucev.
That "black hairy looking spider" was not a "black hairy looking spider" -- it was Sipowicz's toupee -- I can certainly understand that it scared you -- what we have to investigate is how it got loose and how it got into your car.

Call the "Lost Cheap Toupee Commission" in Hollywood -- they will send someone right over and check it against their database, once they dig it out from under your car seat.
Just don't startle it until the LCTC agents get there -- it might get loose and scare small children and startle horses.
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Get a jar of black widows. They are carnivorous and will eat any other spider. Let them lose in your car, and they'll eat the hairy spider and then eachother. Now you only have one black widow to worry about. Kill that last black widow by simply driving your car into a lake.
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Are you sure it was a hairy spider and not just a female Wolf Spider carrying her offspring? Just sayin'.

Seriously, you might want to ask if it possible to bug bomb your car without leaving it uninhabitable. Most generalized sprays are only good for critters that run around tasting the ground all the time, like roaches, earwigs etc. For an arachnid a direct hit is usually required.

You might try going out to the car after dark and taking a look to see if the beast has come out to spin a web. I use this technique to hunt Black Widows around my yard.

One more thing, anybody know the best caliber to use on spiders?

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I'm sorry that the forum wags have not been helpful. You do have a serious question.

If the spider was hairy, it probably wasn't a recluse or Black Widow or Brown Widow. How big was it?

It may be a wolf spider. I think their bite can be painful, but not as bad as the others.

Have you got a nearby Natural History Museum? Call the curator of arachnids and describe the spider, or try Animal Control. Also,check out images of these Online, and read about them. The widow can kill, I think, but rarely. Mostly, it makes people wish they'd die. The bite is said to be VERY painful. That of the Recluse can cause severe tissue loss and horrible, gaping wounds. Healing is likely to be slow and expensive.

Garden and Golden Orb spiders are other possibilities. I don't think they're nearly as bad, although their bites probably hurt.

Unfortunately, a shooting range may be a good place to find widows. Also, be careful of outhouses and dirty restrooms in gas stations.

Please keep us posted if you can ID the spider and got sound advice about what to do. This can happen to any of us, and ridiculing your situation is uncalled for and unhelpful.

I think there are sprays for spiders, but seeing one in time to use them might be hard. An exterminator may be able to help. And the sprays probably tell what to do on the labels. Maybe you can disinfect the car interior without too much hassle.

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Just get one of those house foggers and roll up all the windows, spray about a third of the can into the car and leave it overnight.

I do not like spiders either, I just killed one on the kitchen.

I stepped on it...

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I thought supermarkets was a good place to find widows. Frank

Is this a pun? In fact, in years past, tropical fruit shipments often did include dangerous spiders and scorpions, even snakes.

Did you read about the man bitten this week or last by a rattlesnake in a WalMart?
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I'm sorry that the forum wags have not been helpful. You do have a serious question.

If the spider was hairy, it probably wasn't a recluse or Black Widow or Brown Widow. How big was it?

It may be a wolf spider. I think their bite can be painful, but not as bad as the others.

Have you got a nearby Natural History Museum? Call the curator of arachnids and describe the spider, or try Animal Control. Also,check out images of these Online, and read about them. The widow can kill, I think, but rarely. Mostly, it makes people wish they'd die. The bite is said to be VERY painful. That of the Recluse can cause severe tissue loss and horrible, gaping wounds. Healing is likely to be slow and expensive.

Garden and Golden Orb spiders are other possibilities. I don't think they're nearly as bad, although their bites probably hurt.

Unfortunately, a shooting range may be a good place to find widows. Also, be careful of outhouses and dirty restrooms in gas stations.

Please keep us posted if you can ID the spider and got sound advice about what to do. This can happen to any of us, and ridiculing your situation is uncalled for and unhelpful.

I think there are sprays for spiders, but seeing one in time to use them might be hard. An exterminator may be able to help. And the sprays probably tell what to do on the labels. Maybe you can disinfect the car interior without too much hassle.
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Dammit, TS, you exhaust the levity from these silly threads ...

The "levity" is often "exhaust" itself. This man needs help, not smart alec remarks.

To him, this wasn't supposed to be a "silly" thread. Put yourself in his shoes and see how silly it seems.

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Depends on how big it was, as a "black, hairy spider" could be any species. From your description, it was probably a type of jumping spider. These can be aggressive, but are harmless. If you struck it hard enough to wound it, chances are good it is probably dead under your seat.
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If you are that freaked out call or go by the exterminator's office. I'm sure they will have a reasonable solution.
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Bug fogger.
Yell "incoming or fire in the hole" and fog em out!
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How big was it? Smaller than a penny?
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First, thanks to everyone who has so kindly and humorously responded. I am about to go jogging as I have a funeral later today for which I must finish preparations.

As to the not so itsy bitsy spider... it was about like a dime in size including the legs, maybe a penny but I don't think so. It was black. It was not smooth but fuzzy. I hit it with my hand against the seat but not well or hard enough to kill it. I hope I damaged it sufficiently for it to die under the seat or where ever.

I am going to start by parking the car in the full sun. Predictions are that the temperature for today will be about 90 or so. That should get the interior of the car up over 120 I would think. It is my understanding that spiders don't do well in high heat. For that matter, I don't usually go jogging if the temperature is over 100 degrees. Maybe that will work.

I've also done some reading. I will be using some of the glue strips that are available, placing them under the seats, in the hatchback area, on the floor, etc. If this intruder wanders about at night, etc., I hope it will get hung up on these little equivalents of anti-personnel mines.

I am looking at finding and using a fogger that would be appropriate for use in a small car. From what I've read, I'll need to tape up the windows and cover the upholstery, etc.

I am also going to go by the local agricultural college and ask for information, etc. as to what they think would be the best way to deal with this problem.

I am going to find and buy a can of pesticide that will kill spiders on contact. As any opportunity to use it will be quick and fleeting, I will have to purchase with such use in mind. Therefore I am going to buy a S&W mace product of some sort. I will fire it off and then gut the can which will then be reconfigured as a holder. I will have to find a damaged/destroyed S&W M-10 so that I can adapt the grip off the frame to use with the planned spider zapper. After product testing, I figure to OC this little item on the passenger seat of my car. Whether sitting in a parking lot, waiting for a light to change or blasting down a country road or interstate, I will be ready!

Given that S&W has ventured into developing all sorts of neat revolvers and pistols in all sorts of materials and configurations, etc. I figure they just might have an interest in my little idea for a Spider Zapper. I am going to suggest that they develop it as the S&W SZ, i.,e Spider Zapper. Just imagine the fun I can have in developing the idea! I can buy all sorts of used S&W revolvers so that I can test different grip sizes, sights, etc. Maybe I'll even put a laser on this SZ! I just imagine Lazermax would jump at the idea to be in on the ground floor on this newest potential addition to the S&W personal defense lineup!

Remember though, mums the word until S&W gets it to the market. Don't breath a word of this on other sites, etc. I wouldn't want some opportunistic competitor to beat S&W to the market. We all remember what happened with the .44 Magnum and the .40 S&W rounds.

Now pardon me. I must get to my second mug of coffee... and back to my real work. Sincerely. brucev.
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This will prolly sound like a nuther joke, but same thing happened to my oldest daughter. She wouldna get back in her car for days....finally she bought a lil lizard, a gecko i think, n let him lose in her car. Now i dunno if he ate the spider, but we never did find the lil bugger after he was set lose.I used ta tell her the spider ate him up....she traded the car in on a new un!Mike
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The "levity" is often "exhaust" itself. This man needs help, not smart alec remarks.

To him, this wasn't supposed to be a "silly" thread. Put yourself in his shoes and see how silly it seems.

I do have a sense of humor, but we need to see when something is funny and when a member really needs our assistance.
Get a life -- killing spiders is not rocket science -- and mankind has been living with them a long time -- I have dealt with them at home, my duck camp, in the jungle, in the desert
-- including black widows, recluse, and funnel webs -- as well as tarantulas (have seen lots of them in Central America -- big, hairy, scary-looking but generally inoffensive to man.
Certainly, being careful digging around in a woodpile or an old attic or barn makes sense, but if a potentially dangerous species is encountered, bug spray or blunt force=problem solved.

The OP got some decent advice and some humor -- think about it -- most situations in life can be handled with decent advice and a sense of humor -- why do you think this part of The Forum is called "The Lounge" -- general discussions of a wide variety of topics, which dosed with humor, make for a pleasant repast.

That being said, I'll still buy you a beer(or 2) the next time you venture to the east from Texas -- I'm just 30 miles east of the Texas border, right off I-10 -- and I'll share with you where all the good spots are to look for guns and where to find alligators and roseate spoonbills on the Creole natural Trail.
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Spiders kill a lot of bugs. I try not to kill them. The Brown Recluse has only 6 eyes as opposed to the 8 eyes on all others. So stare em down before you step on them. You wouldn't want to kill a "good guy". Don't bug bomb your car. The bombs have petroleum in them and it gets everywhere. I had a lot of spiders in my basement a couple years ago. They stayed down there so I didn't care. Some turned out to Red Widows. So I vamoosed em all.
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Bruce, I'm glad you have a sense of humor. As for my opinion, I've been told that the smaller black, hairy spiders around here are harmless. Some have red/orange or white markings on their backs. I never figured out how to get 'em to turn over to see the markings on their bellies. If I were in a similar situation, I'd probably set off a bug bomb in the car when I parked it for the night, then the next morning I'd roll down all the windows, maybe open the hatch, and let it air out for a couple of hours.

Of course, if you do so, there's a chance another spider could get in.
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Maybe you should keep it in case you have a snake slither in your car next time.

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I don't have a spider problem....

Little tiny spider:


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A spray of carb cleaner kills any and all bugs pretty much instantly. But it will eat up whatever it hits. Would bleach your seats. In the summer I use it at work all the time when i have to climb into the woods or an old car.

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I think what you have is what we call jumping spiders. They're fuzzy little rats that look at you like they think they can take you, and they are super quick.

They are harmless though.
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I am thinking if it is a black spider, it is probably a ninja spider. Gotta watch 'em, they are sneaky.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:50 PM
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Brucev, if you took the time to read all the remedies and suggestions tactics posted here, the spider has probably died of old age by now.
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You have a CD player in the car? Try playing "You light up my life" or "Afternoon Delight." If it can't find it's way out, it will probably choke itself on it's own webbing.
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There are no practical alternatives to burning the vehicle, unless you are able to positively identify the arachnid as among those whose venom is non-fatal, at least to the degree that it won't incapacitate you while driving in heavy traffic ... Meanwhile, you risk your own life, as well as your passengers' and other motorists, while driving around with this creature lurking, probably under the dashboard, ready at any moment to leap out and climb up your leg and nip you in your most sensitive regions, causing you intense pain and to abandon control of your vehicle and careen out of control into oncoming traffic, with schoolbuses carrying orphaned children to Sunday School, and OMG!!!

Well, you probably get the point ...
Well, there's nothing like a direct hit to the plums while driving with a hot cup of coffee in your hand to get the ol' adrenalin flowin'
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If you want to kill critters in your car, use co2 gas, just like they hook up for soft drinks or beer.Get a 20lb tank from the local welding shop, put it in your car and open the valve slowly, and get out of the VEHICLE. If your car is pretty airtight, the co2 will kill bugs, including cockroaches. You will have to pay for a tank deposit of up to 100 bucks, then turn in the empty tank, for your deposit back. Leave the co2 in the car, for several hours. The gas is not toxic, non-flammable, it will displace air, and it will kill you if trapped in a small airtight space; with it. Mikey
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I thought supermarkets was a good place to find widows. Frank
Near the grapes. I won't name the store, but even here in NH. Last year while just a single aisle away from the grapes in an area market, I look down and there is a black widow looking spider walking across the floor (true story).
I then dove for cover, drew my .357, and emptied all 6 HPs in to the retreating creature (okay, a little bit of a lie)

But I DID whack it one, and along with a manager of the store we looked it over very carefully, and it sure as heck was a black widow. Or rather a black widow corpse.
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One more thing, anybody know the best caliber to use on spiders?
.40 should be just about right, 9mm is too small, .45 too slow. Yup, .40 would be it!
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If none o' this works, been nice knowin' ya......
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I'll go with the big fuzzy moth. Thx
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put these guys in your car overnight....problem solved........
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Bruce,
Well, now you've gone and got it really mad, or scared,
which is the same thing with critters. Really fine shot, like #9,
in 12-, or 20ga. Foggers aren't much of an option, as a pest-control
guy told me that the foggers work on bugs, NOT arachnids.
That CO2 method might be best. I'd sure hate to be peeking
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The "levity" is often "exhaust" itself. This man needs help, not smart alec remarks.

To him, this wasn't supposed to be a "silly" thread. Put yourself in his shoes and see how silly it seems.

I do have a sense of humor, but we need to see when something is funny and when a member really needs our assistance.
Tex, I think you need to realize that a little humor is what makes this place special. We all need a little humor now and then. Many of us look for the humor and enjoy it. And you can always count on the forum "class clown" Sipowiz to dispense his quick witted humor whenever he can.

There are several other "class clowns" here too. Without them all, this place wouldn't be the same.

If I don't have a good answer I too will offer a little humor. Because I know that eventually another member will come along with some good advice. But humor sometimes makes life's problems a little easier to deal with.

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Here ya go.....

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Class clowns I seem to resemble that remark. Usually I was the one who got whacked with the ruler cause some other class clown did it. Guilty by association I guess.
Place where I worked had valve pits dug into the ground and set in concrete boxes. We always look around when we went into them as the black widows usually had their webs and victims there. Usually counted on seeing them on a regular basis. Had a buddy whose dad was in the optics repair business and he'd always catch a bunch during the week. Did not even put a dent in the population. Frank
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