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Old 06-07-2012, 11:45 AM
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Default Are all Hopkins & Allen spur triggers considered antiques?

I just bought this engraved H&A on Gunbroker:

Hopkins & Allen Model XL No. 3 32 Cal Engraved : Antique Guns at GunBroker.com

Are all H&A spur triggers considered antiques or did they make them into the smokeless era?
The seller wants a copy of my FFL which is fine, but I think it's an antique.
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I guess I dont know either. I would think that if that isnt a antique neither am I. I doubt if anything has been made like that since right at a 100 years. How old is a gun suppose to be to be considered a antique?
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Twaits, I googeled this. Says 1898. I wonder if that was built after that. My guess is thats pretty close to the end of production on the type.
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Yeah 1898 is the cut off. But I don't know if any of these spur triggers carried into the smokeless era.
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You might find something in here.

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I'm not familiar with the handguns from H&A,,but the rifles are frequently sorted by bbl address.

The company changed it's name in 1898.
From:
Hopkins & Allen Manufacturing Company, Norwich, Conn.

to

Hopkins & Allen Arms Company of Norwich, Conn.

Any with the first address would be Antique.

Generally,,anything with the second address is assumed to be a 'modern' status firearm, though a very few made in 1898 and before 1/1/99 would be Antiques. No real way to sort out those few w/o serial number records, which AFAIK do not exist.
So most just use the bbl address as the dividing line between antique and modern.

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Thanks for this information. I just bought two H&As recently. The engraved spur trigger mentioned above, which is marked with the first address you mentioned, and a solid frame double action with the latter. That one was transfered to my FFL as expected.
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If the bit of info I have seen is correct the little revovers were made from the 1870's to sometime into the early 1890's. I too have been searching for info on the manufacture dates. Prolly not much out there. I have one that is called Capt Jack in its original picture box. Sweet little gun you purchased! My Capt Jack may be the only one left with its original picture box. Really quite hard to find info on these little guns. Do you shoot yours ? Here is a picture of mine.
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Mine is pretty loose but I would probably fire it with black powder loaded .32 S&W longs if I ever found any.





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