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Old 07-31-2012, 04:18 PM
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Default .22 caliber Steel Shoot - need advice

Good afternoon:

I'm planning on taking my son (14yrs. old) to a steel challenge shoot this weekend. Neither of us have ever competed in a steel shoot. He is a novice with firearms, but knows how to handle a firearm safely. I have quite a bit of experience with firearms and shot competitively (bullseye and silhouette) many years ago. We will both enter in the beginner class, and I plan to use my Ruger Mk-II bull-barrell with iron sights. This is a local shooting club that is hosting the shoot, and they hold matches regularly. I checked their rules, and .22 caliber handguns are permitted - in fact, they are encouraged - for use in the matches.

Beyond the obvious - don't choke, sight alignment, breathing, don't shoot your eye out, etc. - does anyone have any advice we can use?

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Old 07-31-2012, 04:32 PM
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Take your time and don't worry about the score. Look at it more as just shooting for fun rather than a competition. And most important..... let your son beat you !!!
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:31 PM
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If they used knock down targets you may have to aim a bit higher with
a .22 than with a larger round.

I have shot steel plates with a lot of calibers including low-powered rounds like the .32 ACP. Plates fall but quite slowly with the .32 and
aiming high helps them go.
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:29 AM
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Thanks, Evil Dog and ACP230 for your advice. I took the boy to the range last night for familiarization with the Ruger Mk-II. I sighted the piece in, ran over the controls and functions and safety one more time, and then let him shoot to his heart's content. Foolish me, I thought he'd be done after 100 rounds or so. Fat chance, but he was having so much fun I actually broke down and bought him 100 more rounds of the "expensive range ammo". He ended up firing at least 250 rounds, but I think he can competently operate and fire the piece now, and I think he is ready for the match this Saturday. On the way home, I asked him what he thought about our range session, and he said "It was a lot of fun. I can't really put into words how much fun it was being with you and shooting on the range." I told him that he needs to remember things like this when he gets older and has kids - to always make time for your kids.

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Old 08-01-2012, 09:57 AM
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You guys have already won. Have fun on Saturday.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:27 AM
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A buddy of mine competes regularly in a steel challenge. He uses a S&W 422. He stresses using ammo that doesn't FTF. He uses Mini-mags.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:36 PM
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I would agree about using ammo the feeds reliably .22's start pointing downrange at a cone, the targets are non-falling targets. You can practice with 5 of anything and something to point at 12 feet in front of you. Targets are at least 25 feet downrange. You are mainly choosing the best way to aquire the targets, I'm usually looking down the sights at the cone. When you hear the shot timer choose the smoothest through the first four targets, then shoot the stop plate. Normally you will have 5 magazines loaded with 10 rounds, always reload even if you have 5 left. I practice in my office using paper plates set around the room, I use an unloaded gun, start from the low ready move through the targets as smoothly as possible. Pull the trigger when the sights are lined up on each plate. You shoot 5 targets, five times and throw out your slowest time. Those Rugers tend to be the most popular guns, I have found no advantages in fiber optic sights or bull barrels. Reliable ammo and the ability to move seamlessly between targets wins.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:38 PM
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Try to find a K-22. You are going to love it.
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Old 08-02-2012, 08:14 AM
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Thanks, guys, for your excellent support and advice. I invited my daughter (she turned 17 yrs. old yesterday) to come with us, and she was interested until she found out how early we would be leaving the house to attend the shoot (7:30a.m.). Yes, she's one of those that stays up late and gets up later - but I can't complain as she is an honor student and she stays up late reading or practicing her viola. God blessed me and Mrs. Double-O with two really great kids. I hope to have a follow-up/progress report to post after the shoot.

Best regards and much obliged to you all.

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Old 08-02-2012, 10:56 AM
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Take your time and don't worry about the score. Look at it more as just shooting for fun rather than a competition. And most important..... let your son beat you !!!
theirs a fine family tradition.
my grandfather took my father to a turkey shoot. mind you my grandfather taught him to hunt and shoot with some strange but strong marksmanship building rules.
he'd send him out with a 22 and 10 rounds. if he came back with less game animals than rounds fired, next trip out the ammo allotment was reduced by the number of misses. In fairness if game numbered greater than shots fired those rounds were added ... these men could shoot.
roll forward to the turkey shoot they were the last standing till my grandfather purposely blew a shot or they'd have been in elimination till the following morning.
that was the last time my grandfather took him to a competition. fast forward again my father wasn't nearly so strict, but did make a marksman out of me none the less. We found a turkey shoot and went for the grins and giggles of it ...yup .. Dad had to throw that one like grand dad did. Don't matter though, we came home with the turkey.
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:42 PM
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Default .22 caliber Steel Shoot - UPDATE (8/4/12)

Here's a quick update about the Steel Challenge my son and I were competing in today...there's good news, and not so good news. In the not so good news area - the match wasn't for today, but for next month. The club posted the wrong date on their website, so we could watch them shoot IPSC, or wait until next month. The good news was that my son got a good, real time example of how to manage a potentially heated situation - the club member thought I was looking either for an apology, or someone to blame - I wasn't looking for either, just the right data so we could plan accordingly. Instead of this being a wasted morning, we stopped at another shooting range and let him burn through about 300 rounds of ammo. He is now very comfortable with the Ruger Mk-II, and displays excellent handling of the piece. We had a really good time to talk about things, and I hope we'll get a chance at the Steel Challenge next month.

To all who are interested, and/or gave encouragement and advice, much obliged. I'll keep you posted after the Steel Shoot next month.

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Old 08-04-2012, 08:57 PM
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A lot of steel match's the targets do not fall, but are painted between competitors so the bullet splash's are clearly visible, so knock down power isn't necessary. You just need to find out how their match works. For speed shooting, you will find a red dot sight will make a tremendous difference in your times. No need to line up the front & rear sight, just put the dot on the plate ans squeeze. At my age, without a red dot I can no longer compete.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:40 PM
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Default Steel Challenge - 9/2/12 UPDATE

Well, we competed in the Steel Challenge last week and had a blast. Even though we were shooting a stock Ruger Mk-II with a fiber optic front sight, we were competitive with the other shooters. We finally got the official times back this week, and out of 50 shooters (all divisions) I came in 15th place, and my son came in 21st place. In our division (total of 8 shooters), I came in 3rd place and my son came in 5th place. We made new friends and had a lot of fun. My son wants to shoot .22 rifle next time, along with the .22 handguns. I've got a Weaver base on order so I can shoot my Model 625 with a red dot sight.

Thanks to all for your advice and support. For those of you who have wondered about it - jump in, it's a lot of fun.

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You guys have already won. Have fun on Saturday.
Yes sir.... IMHO, l agree 100% with M&P Freak!

Blessings,
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