Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > General Topics > The Lounge

Notices

The Lounge A Catch-All Area for NON-GUN topics.
PUT GUN TOPICS in the GUN FORUMS.
Keep it Family Friendly. See The Rules for Banned Topics!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-07-2012, 09:32 AM
Thuer Thuer is offline
Member
Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Netherlands Rotter
Posts: 1,895
Likes: 1,363
Liked 2,053 Times in 570 Posts
Default Show your Antique Revolvers.

I was busy to make pic's of my antique Colt's for the old Colt thread.
The weather conditio'n on my balcony was good. I wasn't rained off this time. So I decide to make more pic's and place them here.
I hope that you gonna show your antique revolvers to.

Here are a few of me.

You find an Remington New Model Army New .44 compared with a Remington Pocket conversion .31

An Auguste Francotte .31 and a Massachusetts Arms co .31. Both are copy's of the Adams Patent.

My only cased revolver an Cooper Pocket Model .31
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0411.jpg (80.4 KB, 60 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0410.jpg (77.3 KB, 56 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0399.jpg (181.0 KB, 70 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0407.jpg (87.2 KB, 69 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0408.jpg (101.3 KB, 51 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #2  
Old 08-07-2012, 09:37 AM
Texas Star Texas Star is offline
US Veteran
Absent Comrade
Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 20,361
Likes: 24,260
Liked 16,154 Times in 7,408 Posts
Default

Theur-

Nice stuff! I'm interested to see that the Cooper and Remingtons made their way to Holland.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-07-2012, 09:45 AM
Thuer Thuer is offline
Member
Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Netherlands Rotter
Posts: 1,895
Likes: 1,363
Liked 2,053 Times in 570 Posts
Default

Some more antique revolvers.


Smith and Wesson model 2 second issue tip up .22rf with an Lucius W.Pond .32rf.
Brooklyn slide patend .32FR Plant frontloading .42 cupfire and a pocket Merwin and Bray .30 cupifre
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0408.jpg (101.3 KB, 36 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0417.jpg (105.1 KB, 40 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0400.jpg (90.5 KB, 34 views)

Last edited by Thuer; 08-07-2012 at 10:05 AM. Reason: To low in my sugar and making double posts
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-07-2012, 09:52 AM
BearBio BearBio is offline
Member
Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Eastern Washington
Posts: 4,913
Likes: 3,226
Liked 6,813 Times in 2,543 Posts
Default

1877 Colt Lightning DA




1878 Colt Frontier DA






1877 Colt Thunderer Sheriff's Model



1905 Colt Bisley



Don't know if this qualifies: Pocket hammerless 4th change



Not shown:

Baby Russian
1896 Mauser Broomhandle (yeah, it's an auto)
1902 S & W M&P
1908 Vestpocket (another auto)
1917 New Service (almost antique)
1917 Smith & Wesson
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 08-07-2012, 10:02 AM
Thuer Thuer is offline
Member
Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Netherlands Rotter
Posts: 1,895
Likes: 1,363
Liked 2,053 Times in 570 Posts
Default

Eaten some sugar and hope to place some more neat stuff.

This is a very intresting Pinfire revolver. It is a New England Patent.
This revolver you can find in the Famous book the Pinfire system by Smith and Curtis on page 118. The revolver comes from the James Lowther collection.
The tiny one is an 5mm Muffpistol. Lady's can hide it in their handwarmer called a muff. When attacked they can shoot the revolver true the muff.

The last is a common Pinfirerevolver. On the cilinder is a line wich read
"The guardian model of 1878".
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0414.jpg (52.5 KB, 30 views)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-07-2012, 10:08 AM
Thuer Thuer is offline
Member
Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Netherlands Rotter
Posts: 1,895
Likes: 1,363
Liked 2,053 Times in 570 Posts
Default

Bear-Bio Yes it is a 4th model Smith and Wesson Safety Hammerles.

Nice collection you have.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-07-2012, 10:16 AM
Thuer Thuer is offline
Member
Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Netherlands Rotter
Posts: 1,895
Likes: 1,363
Liked 2,053 Times in 570 Posts
Default

Here some more Remington revolvers.

A Remington Smooth and an 4tm model with a Forehand and Wadsworth "Swamp Angel".

An Italian Pinfire model1896 made by Glisenti for the Carabinerie
This is a rather rare Pinfire revolver wich are 5000 made.

Britisch rimfire revolver looks like a Webley. But their is no maker known.
Frame has marking "Hill Maker London" . I do know the akward Hill patent but it seems that it isn''t connected by this revolver maker.
Anybody with more information is very welcome.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0419.jpg (90.9 KB, 30 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0418.jpg (81.4 KB, 33 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0412.jpg (125.2 KB, 34 views)

Last edited by Thuer; 08-07-2012 at 10:19 AM. Reason: no pic's
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-07-2012, 10:29 AM
jaykellogg's Avatar
jaykellogg jaykellogg is offline
Absent Comrade
Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 2,787
Likes: 200
Liked 1,531 Times in 729 Posts
Default

Thuer, some time ago I knew an antique dealer who sold European antique pistols for about $35 (USD) each. I was told that about the time of the US Civil War, there was a war in Europe also. Therefore many European arms firms copied USA designs and got away with it because firms like Colt were so busy supplying arms to the US Army. Due to our education system focusing on the war here I know nothing about this. Would you comment?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-07-2012, 11:29 AM
Thuer Thuer is offline
Member
Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Netherlands Rotter
Posts: 1,895
Likes: 1,363
Liked 2,053 Times in 570 Posts
Default

At the time of the Civil War in America there where no wars in Europe.

In 1866 started the Prussian-Austria war. Wich Prusia won. Followed by the Franco-Prussian war from 19 july 1870 till 10 May 1871. Wich also prusian won. This conflict was the basis of the first WW and even the second WW.

Ofcource where American guns copied. Mostly by the Belgians. But they don't have any effect on the mention wars.

Europa liked double action revolvers more that singleaction revolvers.
So Adam's revolvers in England, Holland and several other country's where favorite.
The rifles in the 1866 and 1870 war where needlefirerifles of European origien. Aldo ustria used obsolete percussionrifles. That was the reason they where lost at that time.

I can't see any American copy wich has a importent role in Europe in that time.
Even during the Civil War England was exporting Le Matt and Kerr revolvers to America and no copies of American revolvers.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-10-2012, 10:55 PM
Cyrano's Avatar
Cyrano Cyrano is offline
US Veteran
Absent Comrade
Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 7,580
Likes: 13,500
Liked 6,743 Times in 2,526 Posts
Default

Bentley (pre-Webley-Bentley) 54 bore (about 38 caliber) percussion revolver. I don't think this Bentley is the same as W.O.Bentley of auto maker fame. The revolver is double action only; the thingy (technical term) on the hammer holds the hammer off the percussion caps for safety. Lightly engraved; little of the original finish is left, it probably was browned rather than blued. The mould throws conical bullets.

Retailed by Payton & Walsh of Perth, Scotland. Their label reads "By appointment to His Royal Highness Prince Albert". Prince Albert died in 1861 so this revolver probably was made before that.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg L1020304.jpg (100.3 KB, 17 views)
File Type: jpg L1020305.jpg (77.6 KB, 26 views)
File Type: jpg L1020306.jpg (91.8 KB, 23 views)
File Type: jpg L1020307.jpg (94.0 KB, 21 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #11  
Old 08-10-2012, 11:18 PM
Cyrano's Avatar
Cyrano Cyrano is offline
US Veteran
Absent Comrade
Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 7,580
Likes: 13,500
Liked 6,743 Times in 2,526 Posts
Default

Here are two almost comtemporary military revolvers. The first is a not very good photo of a French Mle 1873 revolver in 11mm. It is double action with a rod ejection system. It has a lot better finish than the photo indicates. I also have the holster, a hard shell holster with six cartridge loops inside. The holster is very similiar to later Japanese holsters for the Nambu pistols.

The second revolver is a German Modell 1879 Reichsrevolver, with its holster. It fires an 11 mm cartridge, somewhat more powerful than the French. It is single action, has a manual safety and used a wooden stick for ejection. This one was made by Gebruder Mauser. The BE marks on the grip indicate use by a Bavarian civil guard organization after WW I.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Rev 1874 reduit-D.jpg (60.7 KB, 16 views)
File Type: jpg L1010426.jpg (36.0 KB, 14 views)
File Type: jpg L1010432.jpg (30.9 KB, 14 views)
File Type: jpg L1010427.jpg (34.1 KB, 13 views)
File Type: jpg L1010868.jpg (69.9 KB, 11 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #12  
Old 08-11-2012, 07:32 AM
Thuer Thuer is offline
Member
Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Netherlands Rotter
Posts: 1,895
Likes: 1,363
Liked 2,053 Times in 570 Posts
Default

Sure like that Bentley. I have seen more Bentley revolvers, But not that one. I really like to examen that revolver. Nice 1873 and German 1879 revolvers.

Here is a pic I posted before. It is a miniature 1873. I found a couple close up pic's of the Brooklyn Arms Co Slidepatent revolver wich I considre one of the most genius attempts to circumvent the Rollin White Patent. Made 1863 - 1864 in .32rf.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0374.jpg (65.8 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0348.jpg (78.3 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0347.jpg (75.9 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0346.jpg (76.4 KB, 9 views)
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-11-2012, 07:56 AM
Thuer Thuer is offline
Member
Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Netherlands Rotter
Posts: 1,895
Likes: 1,363
Liked 2,053 Times in 570 Posts
Default

Ho well. I made this pictures for an presentation two years ago.
They are all of antique revolvers and I can place them here.
I hope that you like them.

The Fagnus is Belgium made. With the lever you can open the sideplate and have acces to the lock work wich is a Warnant Lock.

I do like the Iver Jonson model 1900. Do not make the mistake to disamble this revolver. It cost you a lot of time and a lot of disaproved words to put it together again.

The Swiss 1882 is really nice. The only flaw is its caliber. 7mm blackpowder is not much of a punch.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg P1000979.jpg (78.2 KB, 11 views)
File Type: jpg Veiligheidlipinactie.jpg (90.4 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg P1000991.jpg (69.9 KB, 11 views)
File Type: jpg Zwitsersemodel1882.jpg (56.2 KB, 8 views)
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-11-2012, 10:27 AM
H Richard's Avatar
H Richard H Richard is online now
US Veteran
Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers. Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Central IL
Posts: 22,782
Likes: 18,473
Liked 22,366 Times in 8,262 Posts
Default

Mine are all S&W's

# 1 1/2 RF First Issue


#1 1/2 CF Second Issue


.22 Single Shot 3rd Model


#1, Second Issue .22 RF


Mod 1 1/2 RF Second Issue


M&P 1st Model, Mod of 1899


.32 S&W Safety Hammerles 3rd Mod


.32 Double Action 5th Mod


38 Double Action 3rd Mod
__________________
H Richard
SWCA1967 SWHF244
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #15  
Old 08-11-2012, 10:43 AM
Thuer Thuer is offline
Member
Show your Antique Revolvers.  
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Netherlands Rotter
Posts: 1,895
Likes: 1,363
Liked 2,053 Times in 570 Posts
Default

Nice collection. I love the 1899. That is a neat revolver.
I like all the other revolvers to. But I have a weakspot for the 1899.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
SHOT Show & Antique Arms Show - - - Who will be there colt_saa The Lounge 6 11-25-2023 10:00 PM
antique revolvers dalor1498 Smith & Wesson - The Wish List 0 05-04-2014 01:46 PM
Who's headed to Vegas for the Shot show and winter antique arms show? dacoontz The Lounge 10 01-05-2012 10:32 PM
Value of Antique S&W Revolvers ?? AlReiter S&W Antiques 4 10-20-2010 11:55 AM
Antique Revolvers 2003flht S&W Antiques 18 09-06-2010 10:33 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:12 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)