Show your Antique Revolvers.

Thuer · #1 08-07-2012, 09:32 AM

I was busy to make pic's of my antique Colt's for the old Colt thread.
The weather conditio'n on my balcony was good. I wasn't rained off this time. So I decide to make more pic's and place them here.
I hope that you gonna show your antique revolvers to.

Here are a few of me.

You find an Remington New Model Army New .44 compared with a Remington Pocket conversion .31

An Auguste Francotte .31 and a Massachusetts Arms co .31. Both are copy's of the Adams Patent.

My only cased revolver an Cooper Pocket Model .31

Texas Star · #2 08-07-2012, 09:37 AM

Theur-

Nice stuff! I'm interested to see that the Cooper and Remingtons made their way to Holland.

Thuer · #3 08-07-2012, 09:45 AM

Some more antique revolvers.

Smith and Wesson model 2 second issue tip up .22rf with an Lucius W.Pond .32rf.
Brooklyn slide patend .32FR Plant frontloading .42 cupfire and a pocket Merwin and Bray .30 cupifre

BearBio · #4 08-07-2012, 09:52 AM

1877 Colt Lightning DA

1878 Colt Frontier DA

1877 Colt Thunderer Sheriff's Model

1905 Colt Bisley

Don't know if this qualifies: Pocket hammerless 4th change

Not shown:

Baby Russian
1896 Mauser Broomhandle (yeah, it's an auto)
1902 S & W M&P
1908 Vestpocket (another auto)
1917 New Service (almost antique)
1917 Smith & Wesson

Thuer · #5 08-07-2012, 10:02 AM

Eaten some sugar and hope to place some more neat stuff.

This is a very intresting Pinfire revolver. It is a New England Patent.
This revolver you can find in the Famous book the Pinfire system by Smith and Curtis on page 118. The revolver comes from the James Lowther collection.
The tiny one is an 5mm Muffpistol. Lady's can hide it in their handwarmer called a muff. When attacked they can shoot the revolver true the muff.

The last is a common Pinfirerevolver. On the cilinder is a line wich read
"The guardian model of 1878".

Thuer · #6 08-07-2012, 10:08 AM

Bear-Bio Yes it is a 4th model Smith and Wesson Safety Hammerles.

Nice collection you have.

Thuer · #7 08-07-2012, 10:16 AM

Here some more Remington revolvers.

A Remington Smooth and an 4tm model with a Forehand and Wadsworth "Swamp Angel".

An Italian Pinfire model1896 made by Glisenti for the Carabinerie
This is a rather rare Pinfire revolver wich are 5000 made.

Britisch rimfire revolver looks like a Webley. But their is no maker known.
Frame has marking "Hill Maker London" . I do know the akward Hill patent but it seems that it isn''t connected by this revolver maker.
Anybody with more information is very welcome.

jaykellogg · #8 08-07-2012, 10:29 AM

Thuer, some time ago I knew an antique dealer who sold European antique pistols for about $35 (USD) each. I was told that about the time of the US Civil War, there was a war in Europe also. Therefore many European arms firms copied USA designs and got away with it because firms like Colt were so busy supplying arms to the US Army. Due to our education system focusing on the war here I know nothing about this. Would you comment?

Thuer · #9 08-07-2012, 11:29 AM

At the time of the Civil War in America there where no wars in Europe.

In 1866 started the Prussian-Austria war. Wich Prusia won. Followed by the Franco-Prussian war from 19 july 1870 till 10 May 1871. Wich also prusian won. This conflict was the basis of the first WW and even the second WW.

Ofcource where American guns copied. Mostly by the Belgians. But they don't have any effect on the mention wars.

Europa liked double action revolvers more that singleaction revolvers.
So Adam's revolvers in England, Holland and several other country's where favorite.
The rifles in the 1866 and 1870 war where needlefirerifles of European origien. Aldo ustria used obsolete percussionrifles. That was the reason they where lost at that time.

I can't see any American copy wich has a importent role in Europe in that time.
Even during the Civil War England was exporting Le Matt and Kerr revolvers to America and no copies of American revolvers.

Cyrano · #10 08-10-2012, 10:55 PM

Bentley (pre-Webley-Bentley) 54 bore (about 38 caliber) percussion revolver. I don't think this Bentley is the same as W.O.Bentley of auto maker fame. The revolver is double action only; the thingy (technical term) on the hammer holds the hammer off the percussion caps for safety. Lightly engraved; little of the original finish is left, it probably was browned rather than blued. The mould throws conical bullets.

Retailed by Payton & Walsh of Perth, Scotland. Their label reads "By appointment to His Royal Highness Prince Albert". Prince Albert died in 1861 so this revolver probably was made before that.

Cyrano · #11 08-10-2012, 11:18 PM

Here are two almost comtemporary military revolvers. The first is a not very good photo of a French Mle 1873 revolver in 11mm. It is double action with a rod ejection system. It has a lot better finish than the photo indicates. I also have the holster, a hard shell holster with six cartridge loops inside. The holster is very similiar to later Japanese holsters for the Nambu pistols.

The second revolver is a German Modell 1879 Reichsrevolver, with its holster. It fires an 11 mm cartridge, somewhat more powerful than the French. It is single action, has a manual safety and used a wooden stick for ejection. This one was made by Gebruder Mauser. The BE marks on the grip indicate use by a Bavarian civil guard organization after WW I.

Thuer · #12 08-11-2012, 07:32 AM

Sure like that Bentley. I have seen more Bentley revolvers, But not that one. I really like to examen that revolver. Nice 1873 and German 1879 revolvers.

Here is a pic I posted before. It is a miniature 1873. I found a couple close up pic's of the Brooklyn Arms Co Slidepatent revolver wich I considre one of the most genius attempts to circumvent the Rollin White Patent. Made 1863 - 1864 in .32rf.

Thuer · #13 08-11-2012, 07:56 AM

Ho well. I made this pictures for an presentation two years ago.
They are all of antique revolvers and I can place them here.
I hope that you like them.

The Fagnus is Belgium made. With the lever you can open the sideplate and have acces to the lock work wich is a Warnant Lock.

I do like the Iver Jonson model 1900. Do not make the mistake to disamble this revolver. It cost you a lot of time and a lot of disaproved words to put it together again.

The Swiss 1882 is really nice. The only flaw is its caliber. 7mm blackpowder is not much of a punch.