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List of fatal bear attacks in North America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Here is a partial list of FATAL bear attacks in North America, separated by species: Black, Grizzly, Brown, and Polar. Some attacks seem to be missing.

What I need is for any of you who recall reading in, "Outdoor Life" (may have been, "Sports Afield") many years ago about a black bear that attacked an angler in midstream in, I think, Ontario.The man stabbed the bear and saved himself. Later, investigators found 8-9 men dead in what was described as a food cache kept by the bear.

I got a tactful PM by a member who wants to know the details about that attack and who questions that bears keep food caches. Unfortunately, I did not record the issue of the magazine and have lost some notes after moving three times since I read that account. It may date to the 1960's or 1970's. It may have been in the feature that OL called, "It Happened to Me." Some of you probably read it often and may recall this case.

I'd like to review it again too. I presume that the magazine checked out the information before they printed it and paid that reader for his account. No responsible publication would print that sensational of an account without checking, I should hope!

The Wiki link above summarizes many attacks, but probably does not include all, some of which may never have been reported to official sources. In other cases, the researcher may simply not have ever seen the reports. Because these are for fatal attacks and the angler survived, the case may not have been reported under his name or in this file.

The Wiki file also does not seem to have the attack in the Staten Island (?) zoo mentioned several times by Massad Ayoob, unless it is the Brooklyn zoo attack in 1987. The time frame is right and I do not know NYC geography well. The zoo may be the right one, but I don't think that Ayoob mentioned two bears. It is possible that there was no human fatality and that accounts for the attack not being included. That certainly precludes mention of the case where the Norwegian explorer shot an approaching polar bear with his S&W .44 Magnum. He killed the bear before it reached him, so no human death. (This case was discussed in, "National Geographic.") Ditto for the doctor who reported a few years ago in, "Sporting Classics" about shooting a grizzly with his pal's Super Blackhawk. He killed the bear, so no human death. Same for Elmer Keith's accounts in, "Sixguns" and his other books. Remember that grizzly that Frank Waterman killed with a .45 Colt SAA in, "Sixguns"? Again, the bear died, not the human, so no mention in the Wiki file.

Wiki also does not discuss fatal attacks outside of the USA and Canada. Asiatic sloth bears and Asiatic black bears are well known to attack humans. Euro brown bears do, too. Cave bears surely did in prehistoric times.

The member who contacted me was polite and did not say that the account of the men in that food cache was false. But, like him, I'd like to ferret out more details, if available. I read that maybe 25 -30 years ago and had no idea at the time that I'd someday be posting about it on an Internet that then didn't even exist! If I'd realized that, I'd have saved the article. That's how information gets lost.

But that case was probably sensational at the time and some of you may recall it. Please comment if you do.

Also, the term, "food cache" has been loosely used to describe any food stored or guarded by a bear. It doesn't have to be in its den. Do Bear Bio or other wildlife professionals here know if black bears do stash food in dens or other shelters? Eight or nine men, some probably partially consumed, is a lot of meat to have been kept by one bear. Still, I doubt that any of the Big Three outdoor mags would fabricate or allow any reader offering that account to fabricate the story. That would simply represent irresponsible journalism, in my opinion.
 
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I'm sure BearBio is the man with the good information, but I also
wondered about the post you made about the 8-9 cached bodies.

I do know for a fact that bears do cache food, even humans
that they kill, but never heard of that many bodies involved.

Back in the late 70's I was in Northern Ontario when a young boy was killed
while trout fishing, which happened only about 100 miles from where I was at.

A search party, looking for the boy, came upon the bear near
the boy's body, which it had covered with debris (cache.)

I remember the news account on TV well since I was in a local watering hole up
there watching a hockey game. The locals were really getting into the game and
were a vocal group but all quieted down while they intently listened to the
TV news report about the attack that came on during a commercial break.

The reaction of these locals, who just a few minutes before
were rowdy bunch, really gave me food for thought.

Back then, because I spent time in the Canadian bush every year, I bought every book,
and read every article I could get my hands on dealing with bears. I wanted to know all
I could about who I was sharing the bush with so I knew how to behave when in their neighborhood.
 
Ogy-

Thanks. I've read the books by Steven Herrero and others on bear atacks and the books by Edward Riccuiti (sp?), Roger Caras and ohers, about dangerous animals. Got about ten shark books alone.

No one source has everything. I kept some newspaper clippings, but evidently not that one about the large food cache. I'm pretty sure it was in, "Outdoor Life."

The large number of dead men really stuck in my mind, along with the report that the fisherman used his knife to save his hide. Being in Canada, I guess he had no choice in not carrying a gun.

I was stationed in Newfoundland for a year, and I can tell you, I was VERY uneasy about not being able to wear even a handgun in the woods when I went fishing. I had a Colt .45 auto and a Husqvarna .270 on base, but couldn't leave with them unless in hunting season. No pistol, even then.

I wore a Randall Model 3 knife with six-inch blade and hoped for the best. Fortunately, no bears and I ever crossed paths.

I did write an article for a cutlery title some years ago about a guy on Vancouver Island who had to use his Schrade LB-7 ( a Buck 110 lookalike) to kill a cougar that jumped him. He got messed up really bad, but killed the cat and survived. You may have seen him and a couple of other cougar attack survivors on Discovery TV. He was 67 or so at the time of the attack and must have been a tough fellow for his age.

He told me in an interview that the single hardest thing was to get the folding knife from his pocket or belt pouch and get it open while keeping the cat's teeth from his throat. Pretty chilling story.
 
A few years ago a black bear broke through a screen door into a home near Mora, NM. The bear attacked and killed the elder lady who lived there.
The bear was probably hungry and 'provoked' by the smell of food and other things which at normally in a house.
 
I don't recall the black bear cache story with a number of bodies...But,

An ol boy I knew from up Cody way told me of gettin maul'd by a bear outside his cook tent once.
Vance was one tough son of a gun and a SF trooper, I's proud to know him.

Mauling: More grizzlies feeling more stress — High Country News

I had a lit'l run in with a blackie one time...It's hangin on the office wall now.

Had an ol sow grizzly with cubs come into camp one nite...She didn't aggravate any of us and went on about her business.

Just a few other minor run ins...Nothing too awful serious.


Su Amigo,
Dave
 
Here's a bear / bear attack related story where I was a
main player, and didn't even know it until it was too late.

This was back in the early 80's, when I would get asked,
"Aren't you afraid of going on those trips (canoe) and getting eaten by a bear?"

My pat response was always, "The odd's of getting attacked by a bear are one in a million."

Well, a close friend had heard me say that and wanted to put things into perspective for me.

He invited me to his family reunion and when we got there I was given a seat
at the table next to his grandfather, the grand patriarch, which I felt was
an honor, considering I wasn't even a member of his family.

During the course of the day the grandfather asked about my canoe trips, which made
me wonder how he knew, and of course he asked if I was worried about bear attacks.

Just like clockwork I said my one in a million line.......

A little while later the grandfather said, "Come with me" and he led me out back
where they had a small garage. When we get out behind the garage he starts
taking his shirt off, which I didn't know what to make of. He hands me his
shirt and starts taking off his t-shirt, now I'm really wondering what's going on. :eek:

When he got his t-shirt off the only thing I could say was,
"Did a bear do that?" He nodded & said "yep."

He had been up in Northern Michigan, where he lived, shortly after WWII and was
chopping wood out in the woods, had been for a couple of hours, when he heard
a noise and turned to see a black bear rushing him. He said it all happened real fast.

He went on to say that the bear basically just rammed him and they both tumbled
down a small hill and all the while the bear was biting & clawing him. Shortly after they
hit the bottom of the ravine the bear broke off the attack and just up & ran off.

That man said something to me that day I'll never forget, which was,
"Son, when you smell the foul breath of a bear in your face you won't give a hoot about odd's."

I did have another saying back then, "The one thing that you
can predict about a bear is that they're totally unpredictable."
 
It's been a while since I've been in NYC, but I've never heard of a Staten Island Zoo. I didn't know there was one in Brooklyn either, but therre's a big one in the Bronx.
 
I do remember the story about the bear cache with several men in it. I do not know where I read it. It has been years ago.

It isn't the 95% of the bears that I worry about. It is the 1% that have a bee in thier bonnet. And the other 4% that just plain cause problems.

John
 
Nasty but true.........(graphic)

Concerning bear caches, remember Timothy Treadwell. He and Amy Heugenard were "camped" at the intersection of five major trails at upper and lower Kaflia lakes in Katmai national forest here in Alaska. He weighed around 185-190. She weighed around 130-135. When Steve flew in at the scheduled pick-up time and place, he knew something was off as Treadwell was not there and was not on the radio. He went to the place (still flying) where they were camped. He landed and was rushed by a bear and barely got back to the plane and pushed off the beach. He circled and discovered two large debris piles. They ended up being something like 40-50 pounds total of human remains left. Black bears want to eat you immediately or they won't usually bother you. Browns are different and that is why playing dead works with brown/grizzly bears. They want to cache you and wait for decomposition. I'm sure there are varied situations for the "rules", but that is the basics for bears, around here anyway. There was a bootleg audio recording of the camera that was on for sound only during the last few minutes of their lives. I heard it once and that was enough. I'm in the woods often and am always aware of my surroundings. Just two nights ago, a grizz was outside my hunting pards tent and I was tucked away snug and cozy under the tonneau cover of my truck. He was aware of the bear, but it sniffed around the tent then left. He got little sleep. This was 100 yards from the highway near Eureka in the parking/camping lot at a major trailhead.
 
POLAR BEARS KILL A CHILD AT PROSPECT PARK ZOO - NYTimes.com


Here's one attack in 1987 at a NYC zoo. I won't summarize it, lest there be copyright issues, but do read this archives item from the NY Times.

The details do not jive with the account that I recall Massad Ayoob publishing. More is involved than one cop using a service .38. This may or may not be the event that he cited, but a lot more went on here than a .38 stopping a polar bear with one shot. If Mr. Ayoob sees this, maybe he'll post and clairfy what happened. It's been a while since I read his version.

I'll tell you this: it looks like NYC cops use a lot of ammo in many of their shootings, whether they're aiming at people or at bears! :rolleyes:
 
Sprefix,

Really? You felt safe under your tonneau cover? This is what a MT grizzly did to my garage door last fall.

John
 

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LOL,

No the bear didn't destroy my mower, for the record! LOL The bear knew how much I hate mowing and figured she would torture me more by leaving the mower alone.

But she did tear things up and knocked things over. Made a mess.
The bear was smart. (WAS- she is now a rug somewhere) :) She did try and open the walk in door by turning it with her mouth. There are teeth dents on the knob! ;)

John
 
Yes, 2 Alaskan Bear methods for personal safety used....:)

Sprefix,

Really? You felt safe under your tonneau cover? This is what a MT grizzly did to my garage door last fall.

John

1---My little friend was on the pillow (A 625-6 Mountain Gun with 340 grain hard-cast lead at 1050fps). 2---'Sides, my pard was in a tent........:)
 
What's on the floor?

Sprefix,

Really? You felt safe under your tonneau cover? This is what a MT grizzly did to my garage door last fall.

John

Is that blood on the floor from maybe a hanging deer or elk? I'm just wondering what the bear wanted in the garage for. They are motivated by food or territory. Just curious......
 
There was blood on the floor later on from a sucessful hunting trip. BUT what you see is grease.

For the record:
I did have two carcasses hanging and yes the bears were there the night before and the bears reached under the door and lifted it up and took the carcasses out and I had bones all over. They threw things around the garage and made a mess with my tools and stuff. I cleaned everything up and washed the floor with the hose. I took the carcasses to the dump.
I closed the door and latched them so they couldn't get in again. BIG MISTAKE! They came back the next night and pushed the door down.

----Now it is known that a bears sense of smell is very good and they could tell there was no longer anything left of the carcasses in the garage just by smelling-----

The bear bio even said that the bear knew that and just broke in and tore things up because she was a problem bear. He sent me several short video trail cam pics of the damage the bear had done up and down the valley. One of tearing open a camp trailer and spread stuff all over the place just for the shear meaness of it.

But this was not the first time the bear was at my place and many other places. They finally caught her when she came back with her 300 plus pound 2 1/2 year old cubs to eat some more on the 15 pigs she killed the night before at a farmers south of me a mile.

So I am just saying being under a tonneau cover with a 45 colt loaded hot really doesn't make me feel secure. I have two 870's loaded with slugs, but what good is that when another grizzly can come up on my deck and lean against my back door and push it open. No deadbolt lock and cross bolts or anything else will stop a big bear bent on getting into ANYWHERE. There WERE 10 separate grizzlies on my place last fall. All verified by the bear bio. with trail cam pics. There are now 4 left and one of them was getting ready to push on my back door one night, a year ago last spring, just as I flipped on the light. He jumped down off the deck and ran off. Lucky I woke up and heard the bear.

A guy killed a black bear somewheres near Grat Falls this weekend because it broke into his house and tore things up and ate everything in sight.

So pardon me for the rant but I am a firm believer in bigger is better in bear country. Sorry again for the rant

John
 
Darn good coffee-clatch conversation if nothing else.

There was blood on the floor later on from a sucessful hunting trip. BUT what you see is grease.

For the record:
I did have two carcasses hanging and yes the bears were there the night before and the bears reached under the door and lifted it up and took the carcasses out and I had bones all over. They threw things around the garage and made a mess with my tools and stuff. I cleaned everything up and washed the floor with the hose. I took the carcasses to the dump.
I closed the door and latched them so they couldn't get in again. BIG MISTAKE! They came back the next night and pushed the door down.

----Now it is known that a bears sense of smell is very good and they could tell there was no longer anything left of the carcasses in the garage just by smelling-----

The bear bio even said that the bear knew that and just broke in and tore things up because she was a problem bear. He sent me several short video trail cam pics of the damage the bear had done up and down the valley. One of tearing open a camp trailer and spread stuff all over the place just for the shear meaness of it.

But this was not the first time the bear was at my place and many other places. They finally caught her when she came back with her 300 plus pound 2 1/2 year old cubs to eat some more on the 15 pigs she killed the night before at a farmers south of me a mile.

So I am just saying being under a tonneau cover with a 45 colt loaded hot really doesn't make me feel secure. I have two 870's loaded with slugs, but what good is that when another grizzly can come up on my deck and lean against my back door and push it open. No deadbolt lock and cross bolts or anything else will stop a big bear bent on getting into ANYWHERE. There WERE 10 separate grizzlies on my place last fall. All verified by the bear bio. with trail cam pics. There are now 4 left and one of them was getting ready to push on my back door one night, a year ago last spring, just as I flipped on the light. He jumped down off the deck and ran off. Lucky I woke up and heard the bear.

A guy killed a black bear somewheres near Grat Falls this weekend because it broke into his house and tore things up and ate everything in sight.

So pardon me for the rant but I am a firm believer in bigger is better in bear country. Sorry again for the rant

John

Sounds like you are blessed and cursed at the same time. Kinda cool to be in heavy bear territory, but not all the time. Being as it is, a bear must go down when it becomes a problem. I'm sure that door was spendy, not to mention the frustration. We have a "defense of life and property" law in Alaska. I'd hope the bears would stay away, but if they persisted, some ballistics testing would be in order as per the law of course. They sound like they have been learning from the wolves. They kill for pleasure. Anyone following caribou herds can tell you the same thing. As for bigger is better, I agree. I just didn't feel like wielding my .45-70 1886 Browning SRC under the tonneau cover. I like tent camping, but the weather was sucking bad and I was tucked in, toasty warm, dry, and safe long enough to get my little friend into action at point blank if necessary. There were also fifteen or so other hunters in the immediate area. Best of luck with your bear problem and don't become a story in a book about bears...............
 
Sprefix,

I had to chuckle some as I read and reread your last post, with my quote.

I do come across sort of strongly opinionated at times about bear protection. :) If I were you in your situation I would have had my 629 and bear spray. So I didn't intend to ridicule you about your choice of protection. (I must say bear spray would have been my SECOND choice if it was me under your tonneau cover! LOL) An 870 with slugs is not a tonneau cover gun either! ha ha ha I agree a 45-70 would not be very useful under the tonneau cover.

I do make different choices of protection while being out and about.

--Around the house I have a 870 with mag extension and loaded with slugs. This is also taken along if packing out meat. It is extra heavy but in my and my sons experiances it is the smart thing to do. This is what I call a "probable situation". This is because of "human habituated bears". The dangerous kind

--Hiking about in the woods and archery hunting it is the 629 and bear spray. That is just "I might run into something type situation".

--In the winter and not likely to encounter anything other than a mountain lion. I carry my Ruger SP101 357. This is a "I do not want to be unprepared situation".

My youngest son is the only one who has actually had to shoot a charging grizzly bear out behind the house. He used a 870 20 ga. with slugs and hit it very fatally. The bear turned and went uphill 100 yards at the shots. The bear was alive a full 5 minutes after being shot twice and braking 3-4" lodgepole pine. And growling a lot. It was very mad. The first shot broke the collar bone and destroyed the lungs. The second was a broadside lung shot. The first slug broke into two pieces and one piece was under the hide on the rear end and the other in the pelvic area. Autopsy report from the bear bio. The slug did its job.

I know that big bear have been killed with the 223. My oldest son treed a mountain lion and it took 2 shots from a 357 and 3 shots from a 44 mag before it died in a fight. Those are the exceptions and not the rule though. But trying to take down a big bear coming your way before he gets you requires a "bigger is better" type gun

So again I am sorry to have ridiculed you.

John
 

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