Ronnie the "Bren Girl!"

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During WWII, while the men went to war, women in the allied nations rolled up their sleeves and went to work on the assembly lines, turning out war munitions and equipment. America had it's fictional "Rosie the Riveter," but Canada had a woman war worker icon even before that. She was called "Ronnie the Bren Girl," ...and she was real.

Veronica "Ronnie" Foster worked with her sister at the John Inglis Company in Toronto, on the Bren gun production line in the early 1940s. This 20-something year-old was quite photogenic, and the company and the country soon noticed her. She was photographed on the line and in other war effort propaganda photos. Her daily life at the plant and off work was recorded and was of interest throughout Canada. Here are some representative pictures.

These are a couple of of her most famous photos, taking a smoke break and admiring her handiwork:

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Posing with her Bren gun and Winston Churchill:

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Here are a couple of photos of Ronnie at her lathe:

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The Inglis company used her as a model for employee manuals. Here is a picture of her showing how new employees are photographed on their first day on the job:

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Here's another picture of her checking in at the guard post early in the morning:

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The Inglis company had an active softball league for recreation, and Ronnie was pictured here batting the ball for fielding practice:

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She was often photographed at company social activities; here she was jitterbugging with a manager:

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After the war, Ronnie became a model and a vocalist with a band. She wound up married to the trombone player in the band. Here's she's at the mike:

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Ronnie and her husband continued in the music business for years. Here is a picture of her taken in 1960:

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In her life, Ronnie became mother to seven children, and she lived until the year 2000. Sadly for Canada and the rest of us who appreciate the effort that women put forth to help win WWII, she is no longer with us.

I thought you might like to know about her. Bless her and the thousands of other women who stepped up and helped their sons, husbands and boyfriends defeat the enemy. They were proud members of the "greatest generation."

John
 
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Great post and like the pictures.
You mention the "Greatest Generation" Tomorrow I have a detail at 4:45 AM for the Honor Flight leaving Gulfport to Washington with the Veterans of WW11. This is the 4th time I have been involved with this tribute to the Veterans. All the local Leo's line the road to the airport with the Blue's on and when the buss carrying the Veterans pass we follow them in to the terminal. The Deputy's I work with park our units and go inside to great the vets as they get off the buss. Air Force, National Guard and Sea bee's are there to help them get off the buss and push some of the men in wheel chair's.

Manny vets come up to us and shake our hand thanking us for what we do for them and I always say Thank You for what you have done for us and future generations.

When they come back at night their will be a Military Band and Hundred's of people welcoming them back after their day in Washington at the WW11 Memorial.
 
Great... now my screen's all blurry..........

Thanks for the post..

Awww You big woose!! Hand me that danged tissues and suck it up!!!

DamnYankee,

Thanks from all of the next generation for what you are doing for those old timers. That's America at it's best!!
 
Nice to see the fairer sex on the forum...................What a gal!
 
Awww You big woose!! Hand me that danged tissues and suck it up!!!

DamnYankee,

Thanks from all of the next generation for what you are doing for those old timers. That's America at it's best!!


You think that's bad.. I've been to that Memorial THREE times..( including opening week.. ) and all three times 'dem inscriptions gotta bit blurry.
 
I guess it was the norm but I cringe when I see old pictures of lathe workers with no eye protection. To mess up those eyes would have been a crime.

The Bren Gun, my Dad's favourite weapon from his time in the RAF.
 
My late mother-in-law worked at the Willow Run airplane plant in downstate MI during the war. Somebody posted some photos of the place on here a while back.

Took a look but didn't see her. We have some photos of her in Detroit back then so we might have been able to spot her if the shot was just right.

My mother was in nursing school and then went to the Pacific as an
Army nurse. She served on a couple of hospital ships and
in the Philippines after the invasion of Manila. She treated some of the
guys who were rescued from the Cabantuan prison camp.

She was almost back to San Francisco after the war and threw some
brass pots and Japanese rifles off of the ship. She told me this after
I started getting into shooting. I expressed my disappointment.

"I didn't know what else to do with them," she said. "It would have
been tough to get them home on the train."
 
I think Inglis also made Browning 9mm Hi-Power pistols. Don't know anything about Inglis, but read something once that it was a company that manufactured appliances in peacetime, sort of like Maytag or Whirlpool. Maybe they had a "Hi-Power Hattie."
 
Thanks, John. Superb post, as ever. :)

I've always wondered why the forward part of the barrel on Brens is lighter colored. Anyone know? Steve? I've never seen a Bren gun in person.

My mother worked at Beech Aircraft during the war. My father was a petroleum engineer but was at Boeing, building B-29's, when he was drafted. He could probably have easily gotten a commission via OCS, but ended up as a technical staff sergeant, figuring that young lieutenants were likely early casualties if he ever saw fighting. He went to Okinawa, but arrived after the Japanese there were done for and all he ever shot at were mongooses. :rolleyes: I was always embarrassed when the other boys told stories about their fathers who saw real combat. My Cub Scout den father was an insurance agent who had been an infantry company commander in Europe.

Some of the families had captured enemy weapons and I learned a lot about guns as I handled them.
 
I think Inglis also made Browning 9mm Hi-Power pistols. Don't know anything about Inglis, but read something once that it was a company that manufactured appliances in peacetime, sort of like Maytag or Whirlpool. Maybe they had a "Hi-Power Hattie."


Heck, yes, they made 9mm pistols! See John's other topic here on those, with his usual fine photos! He illustrates a stocked example witn tangent sight.

These were the Brownings widely used from 1944-on by commandos and paratroopers. Later, they replaced most .38 revolvers in Commonwealth service. I think Canada is still using those guns, although the UK has bought later ones from Belgium.

I didn't know that Inglis made Brens. Maybe they also made Sten guns? The No. 4 .303 rifle was made at Long Branch arsenal. I think it was also in Toronto.
 
I didn't know that Inglis made Brens. Maybe they also made Sten guns?

Inglis made a lot of other stuff in addition to the High Power pistols and the Bren Guns. They also manufactured .303 Browning aircraft machine guns (under Colt's license), Boys Anti-Tank Rifles, quad 20mm Polsten anti-aircraft guns (plus their mounts and magazines). Also torpedo heads, and a lot of subcontracted precision parts for makers of ordnance, radar and optical equipment. At its peak during WWII, they had over fifteen thousand employees in several divisions. Over 100,00 Brens were made for the British, and they also made Mk1, Mk1M and MkII Brens for the Canadian forces. 43,000 7.92x57mm Brens were manufactured for the Chinese and the European resistance people. A few experimental Brens were made in .30-06 caliber.

It's hard to tell from pictures, but the light-colored forward part of the Bren barrel looks to be a slip-over combination "flash eliminator" and front sight component, likely finished separately from the barrel proper and thus having a different appearance. Perhaps others can shed more light on this.

John
 
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I've always wondered why the forward part of the barrel on Brens is lighter colored. Anyone know? Steve? I've never seen a Bren gun in person.

I believe that the flash hider, front sight and gas regulator were all part of a sleeve that fitted over the end of the barrel. This was not blued in the same way as the barrel, hence the different colour.

John was a few seconds ahead.:)
 
I guess it was the norm but I cringe when I see old pictures of lathe workers with no eye protection. To mess up those eyes would have been a crime.

So I'm not the only one! :D

Good she's keeping a bit of distance. Getting any of those other parts hung up in the work would be a tragedy as well. ;)

Love the old photos. I used to work at the same place that built B-24 bombers in WWII and they had bunches of photos.
 
Thanks for the great post and photos. I think part of the Inglis plant may still be standing.
 
So I'm not the only one! :D

Good she's keeping a bit of distance. Getting any of those other parts hung up in the work would be a tragedy as well. ;)

Love the old photos. I used to work at the same place that built B-24 bombers in WWII and they had bunches of photos.

I noticed also,but believe those are staged photos and the machines are not running. Regardless, eye protection should be worn whenever in a plant. But she would not be so photogenic with goggles on:)
 
From what I've read the Bren was considered by many to be superior to the BAR as a combat weapon. I've never fired one, and the closest I came was once when I saw a "Demilled" one at a gun show.

A Bren designed to use the .30-'06 might have been interesting. I don't know how many have read the Chauchat story in the latest American Rifleman, but that article was not nearly as critical of its performance during WWI as I expected. Despite its problems, it was much better than a bolt-action rifle. The main performance difficulty resulted from shoddy manufacture and lack of quality control more than poor design. Also, in the original 8mm Lebel chambering, as used by the French troops, it was somewhat more reliable than the .30-'06 version used by the American doughboys. Makes you wonder why the US forces didn't just use the Chauchat in 8mm Lebel. They did that with the French Lebel medium MGs (for most of WWI, American forces had no machine guns of US design), and that seemed to work OK.
 
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