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12-19-2012, 06:36 PM
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I'm sure the Conn. Trooper said the Long Gun was found in the shooter's car
I was watching the TV closely and the spokesman said he had 3 guns. The long gun was found in his car. I'm not making this up.Dan
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I was watching the TV closely and the spokesman said he had 3 guns. The long gun was found in his car. I'm not making this up.Dan
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That was being reported for the first day or so. Then they changed the story and said the AR was used to kill everyone and they found a shotgun in the car.
The story changed so many times I dont know what to believe.
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One of the first reports I heard said the same.
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The story changed several times. Those prone to being suspicious have wondered about whether another shooter or shooters was involved. There is a thread on that topic.
Meanwhile there was that second gas mask found in Colorado... outside the theater. Wonder who was wearing it.
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That is what I heard
For two or three days the media was showing a Glock and a Sig semi auto pistols and claimed that they were the weapons used. They said they found a Brush Master type of rifle in the car and another gun of some kind. Never heard of a Brush Master before. Later they changed their story and blamed it on, get this, the fact that they had received some "false" information that was not "true". Imagine that. Now if they were being considered for becoming Secretary of State, that would have been their downfall right there. I think they have an agenda for sure. Even though on the first day of the tragedy they were saying that he only took the two pistols in with him, but were starting to talk about an assault rifle ban at the same time. All I know for sure is that had to be the absolute worst thing I have ever heard of in my 62 years. My prayers have gone out to the families, but I can't think of anything that would help a situation that horrible.
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12-19-2012, 07:19 PM
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I just find it unreal that this tragedy is being used to satisfy their personal agenda.
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12-19-2012, 07:21 PM
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i think a shotgun was in the trunk and he used the rifle and the 2 pistols,as far as helping....i firearm in the principals office would have helped.
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" Brush Master" was the designation for the sited slug barrel for the Remington 870 combo package. I have one.
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The reporters on the three major news that I watched were were bumbling through trying to get an Emmy so they blurted out the first thing they heard. First, there were two injuries. They also reported that there were two bodies in the Hoboken apartment. No doubt the most disgraceful show of journalism I've seen. Edward R is spinning.
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I'm Pretty sure it was one of those Glock 8mm assult rifle things with a 150 round clipazine.
Prayers to the families.
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They had the story straight until the black Suburbans showed up...
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I just find it unreal that this tragedy is being used to satisfy their personal agenda.
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You do? Really?
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Doubleline your tinfoil hats and you'll feel better in the morning.
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Guess I shoulda said extremely disgusted.
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Well, I'm sure glad others heard the same
thing I did. 3 guns total. Two hadguns. One long gun found in the shooters car.
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That was being reported for the first day or so. Then they changed the story and said the AR was used to kill everyone and they found a shotgun in the car.
The story changed so many times I dont know what to believe.
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Ill tell you what I know you can believe.
two disgusting act happened.
First, children got murdered.
second the media fluffed the facts till they could drive an agenda on their blood
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The AR was said to have been found in the trunk and the Glock and the Sig were the weapons the loon used. Then a day later the county medical examiner stated that the AR was the murder weapon. Do I smell something?? Well I have wondered about it.
Prayers for all the families.
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The AR was said to have been found in the trunk and the Glock and the Sig were the weapons the loon used. Then a day later the county medical examiner stated that the AR was the murder weapon. Do I smell something?? Well I have wondered about it.
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A co-worker (female) and I were discussing this today. We both heard and read that two handguns, a Glock and a SIG were used in the horrible act and the "assault rifle" was found in the vehicle.
Definite stench of something rotten in Connecticut!
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I too heard it said several times that two handguns were used to commit this horrible crime and that a rifle was found in the shooters car. Now I hear that the rifle was the murder weapon...excuse me, how did this happen? Something is starting to smell, I no longer believe anything I hear from these people. Obviously someone is lying and the question is why?
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The media in the US cannot wait for proper information, they must be first. As a result nearly everything is wrong at the beginning. Remember the estimates of 18-20k dead in the WTC?
So, what happens is the stories start to get garbled and contradictory. Shortly thereafter the conspiracy theorists of whatever persuasion latch onto whatever story suits their agenda and we are off to the races.
One of the biggest reasons for this seems to be that the American psyche refuses to believe that there can be a lone gunman, bomber, axe-murderer or whatever. "They haven't caught Ted Bundy's helper" is one I've heard since I've lived here. Really?
I'll tell you what else does not help in these situations is people speed reading and journalists' poor English. Combine those and it was the Titanic that blew up over Lakehurst because of a bullet fired by John Wayne Gacy from the grassy knoll in Memphis. The serial number on the gun was traced to the Swiss Guard at the Vatican.
For what it's worth, I have seen a news story (funny how they call them stories ) where they said one rifle and two handguns recovered in the school and a shotgun in the car.
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NBC aired live footage - you can see it on youtube - of a long gun being removed from the trunk. It looks as though an officer drops a mag and clears it. So there was a long gun in the trunk. It appears to be cleared via a side positioned cocking lever. There are ARs that have that configuration. But it actually looks as though it might be a Saiga 12. Yet none of these were registered to the mother. So who owned it and where did it come from? Where is the villianization of an AK shotgun? Seems an easy target yet we here nary about it.
The reason that lone gunmen theories do not sit well is simple...many times they are concocted to the point that it strains credibility.
Here we have the problem that it was not the media incorrectly reporting something about the guns found with the killer. It was responding officers who were directly saying to the cameras that the AR was not inside. Did they overlook it? Forget about it? Not know the difference between an AR and a handgun?
It could be all just a case of confusion. That does not mean we should not critically ask questions.
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Normally I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories, but this one has just too many things lined up in just the right place. How the story can change virtually overnight from the AR being in the car (and apparently pictures of it?) to him using it.
I smell a rat here... agenda's are at work. Now apparently the final report on this will not be available for "a couple months", yet now they want legislation in January?
Let's hope enough people in the house stick to their core beliefs
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I just find it unreal that this tragedy is being used to satisfy their personal agenda.
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Are you new here?
Seriously though, it doesn't surprise me even a little bit.
"Never let a tragedy go to waste" is a big part of "their" strategy. And the sheeple suck it up. After a couple weeks they'll be back to American Idol & Honey Boo Boo.
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Are you new here?
Seriously though, it doesn't surprise me even a little bit.
"Never let a tragedy go to waste" is a big part of "their" strategy. And the sheeple suck it up. After a couple weeks they'll be back to American Idol & Honey Boo Boo.
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Compared to you, yeah. As I said on an earlier post on this thread, I guess I shoulda said, extremely disgusting.
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Wow, I too, remember some of this stuff being reported.
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The story changed so many times I dont know what to believe.
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I don't believe any of it.
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The story changed so many times I dont know what to believe.
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agree! the problem is that in their zeal to get an "exclusive" the media will grab and run with anything they hear from anyone without taking the time to verify what they're reporting is accurate.
they're not concerned with truth and accuracy, just ratings or the pushing of their agenda!
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Compared to you, yeah. As I said on an earlier post on this thread, I guess I shoulda said, extremely disgusting.
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That first line was supposed to be a sort of rhetorically facetiously humorous. Sorry if I misssed. No offense was intended.
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I heard it too: The shooter used two handguns, and an 'assault rifle' was found in the car. We'll probably never know what really happened.
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None of the news idiots nor many police officers know the difference between a Glock, SIG, AR 15, or black shotgun. I also heard from our local news that exploding bullets were used. What the hell is an exploding bullet?
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