Anyone know if the TSA considers a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to be the weapon of choice for terrorists?

The wife and I will be going on a medium long flight with no food served, so I need to take along a snack. PB&J is the food of choice as it requires no refrigeration, heating, silverware, plates, or cleanup, and satisfies me for a spell.

So, anybody here get one past the security checkpoint? And please don't tell me I have to put it in my underwear

P.S.: This is a serious question.

John Gross

Seriously, it would be contingent on the size of the sandwich. TSA rule is below:

Traveling with Food or Gifts | Transportation Security Administration

All said, if you are flying via an airport of any size there will be food purveyors after the TSA checkpoint. I suggest you save yourself some possible problems (and a sandwich in the trash) by buying something once you have gone through the TSA checkpoint.

Bon voyage.

Be safe.

Is it creamy or crunch peanut butter??

Big D has your answer (see note at bottom of checklist). Buy a sandwich or something after the check point and you can carry it on board.

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Dick

I have carried sandwiches many times on airplanes. It never occurred to me to wonder whether there was an issue with TSA. It is liquids you need to worry about.

Then again, I have never declared my sandwiches, either!

I always carry Clif bars. Even on internationals they pass.

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Halfway and one more step

More than 3 oz.s of jelly will get your sandwich confiscated, if the TSA "officials" are paying close attention... Maybe just ask them to weigh or otherwise quantify it --- provide the volume, and the jelly's specific gravity, and let them work it out...

What about candy and wrapped granola/cereal bars?

Do those shops beyond checkpoints sell bottled water that is approved for boarding?

Obviously, I haven't flown in years. I try to avoid airports now.

If regulations like this aren't an example of "can't see the forest for the trees", then I don't know what is.

For long flights my food of choice is a 750ml bottle of tequila followed by a nice long nap in the plane!plane

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I left France with an apple and some snacks that I bought after the screening and took them on the plane with no problem. I ate the apple soon after getting in the air and the rest long before landing.

I got to Miami and the cute little beagle sat by my bags. Damn. More time after a long flight getting searched and explaining. I thought Snoopy was after the gum but was told that he wont sit for that. It's amazing how well these dogs know their jobs and even though I wasn't happy, Good boy!

Edit to explain that the lady with the dog asked me if I had fruit in there. After explaining that I did but had eaten it she told me that's what the dog hit on. If a beagle could smell residual apple I imagine that the bugs and disease could still be in my bag but that didn't concern her. It sure makes one wonder.

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Dum vivo cano

We've never had a problem carrying sandwiches or, in my wife's case, salads (with less than 3 oz of salad dressing) onto the airplane. She's even gotten her plastic salad fork on -- kinda goes along with her crochete hooks and knitting needles. It all goes into her carry on. The one thing she likes to do is to bring an empty water bottle through security, then fill it from a drinking fountain on the other side. Completely legal.

I have one funny story, though. I had bought a Sears Craftsman 19.2V tool set for the Park Model in Mesa, AZ. She decided to bring the warrantee info home. Later, she thought it was dumb to have that in Minnesota, so re-packed it for the flight back to AZ the next trip. TSA had a fit with her carry-on, that trip back. Kept running it through the machine and finally decided to start going through everything. She kept asking what in the world are you looking for?!! They finally admitted that it looked like there was a Sawzall blade in there. She said are you nuts or crazy??? There is no way I have a Sawzall blade! Guess what was in the middle of the folded up tool kit warranty? A Sawzall blade!

Funny thing was that security in AZ missed it on the previous trip.

I guess this thread began with a legitimate query, to which I gave a flippant (if unfortunately, probably accurate reply).

Here's my recent experience with the TSA "officials" ---

Departing, Delta, Phoenix to eastern Ohio ---

"I'll need a 'firearms tag' , and I'll stick with the bag until it's cleared TSA screening."

"OK", sign here, &TC., and follow me..."

So, I followed the ticket agent to the backroom TSA inspection area, where the TSA "official", who was inspecting my bag only because it held a declared firearm, proceeded to conduct a complete and thorough swab of every little bit of my baggage, looking for "glycerin", "nitrates", and so forth. I interrupted his pointless work to ask, "Why are you ignoring my declared firearm, and inspecting the rest of my bag for explosives ???"

"Just standard procedure, Sir."

Five minutes later I got my life back, after a pointless search of my luggage for explosives, because I'd declared a gun...

Fast forward to return flight from Akron/Canton airport ---
middle aged female ticket agent insists on "inspecting" my declared firearm, to which I submit for fear of missing my flight while engaged in a pointless argument. She can't explain why Delta policy differs between Phoenix and Akron, freely admits that she has no expertise to examine a pistol, knows not what she's looking at, and doesn't understand company policy.

I offered to stand by while my checked bag clears TSA, but, after, a reasonable interval, there's no reply, I asked a passing TSA "official" if I needed to wait any longer... He came back after a few minutes, reporting that I was "good to go ..."


So, we're all being subjected to incoherent, disjunct, uncoordinated, stupidly arranged, ineffectual policies that are more likely to inconvenience legitimate travelers than to thwart murderous terrorists ....

I've carried PB&J sandwiches on flights with no questions asked.

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Jon

I would think that a PB&J sandwich would pass TSA...BUT, there are better snacks to consume while in-flight..PB&J's can be a bit messy at home, let alone in the air..
I stick to packaged snacks, granola bars , Slim Jims and pretzel rods..

wanna have some fun? Next time, completely field strip your pistol inside your locked case. It's good for a chuckle when they want to "inspect" the parts. The confused look and, "can you verify it's unloaded?" is priceless.

I've gone through a couple dozen airports in the last year, I don't think any used the exact same checked firearm procedure. I've never had a real problem, just roll with it.

OP...your PB&J will be most welcome. There's nothing worse than somebody carrying a McDs bag onto a flight...the stench fills the cabin!

If you want a way to get that PB & J on without question I can tell you that in my many years of experience of seeing inmates hide things including sandwiches and stuff bigger I know where you can put it. It's not in your underwear but somewhere, umm deeper.
On a serious note I agree with them being a bit messy unless you can put them in a ziplock bag or foil but I am willing to bet that foil will you get some TSA agents hands on your body quicker than a teenage boy with Taylor Swift on prom night. I would also go with granola bars or something similar.

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Vaya con Dios

The above posts show have far a once free country and people have sunken.

If they ban peanut butter, it will be because of potential liability issues.

Back when we all grew up, nut allergies were all but unheard of. But in the last 2-3 decades, nut allergies have increased at amazing numbers, and nobody really knows why. Schools have had to ban peanut butter and all snacks/candy that contain nuts or even nut oils, as most of you likely know, because in a typical school there are a handful of kids allergic. Some of these allergies are mild, and the nuts need to be ingested, causing hives and a rash. But others are life threatening emergencies, anaphylactic shock like a bee sting needing epinephrine injections to stop it. The exposure might not require eating anything at all, just exposure to dust-like fragments from a peanut being crushed on a floor. Or the brown skin around one.
Keep in mind that just like bee stings, an allergic reaction can sometimes change from a mild to a life threatening reaction in consecutive exposures to the allergen. Nut allergies in kids are known to do this.

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Geoff. Since 1960.

Last Feb. we flew to Ft. Lauderdale and my wife had a disposeable camara in the carry-on bag, but she had taken it out of the cardboard packageing. It sure looked like a pound of foil wraped C-5 to me. We did get some extra hands on security, but they were very nice!

Ah, the old peanut allergy...Forgot about that...I remember SouthWest Airlines getting their teat in a wringer by serving individual packet's of the dangerous Peanuts..Seems that they now offer peanut free flights..

How appropriate after today.



The name's Cliff, drop over sometime.

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Memory of Randy Freas-Rimfired

Expect to have your PBJ palpated, probed and groped to make sure you have not somehow magically hidden a Sig-Sauer inside your 1/2 inch thick sandwich --- I would cut the sandwich into 4 quarters so the clueless TSA agent will be able to figure out that no contraband is hidden inside. Include a note from your grandmother that you have always loved PBJ and that she made this one especially for your trip

Actually, you should be ok with a travel PBJ.

Aloha,

Here's a list of some of the foods that I brought on board an Alaska

Airlines flight from Honolulu to Seattle. What I had was a little of this n

a little of that. Chicken musubi, shrimp tempura, hash, plain musubi and a

few others.

Breezed right thru security, the flight crew had a chuckle when they saw

what I had brought on to eat.

Here's the menu from where I got the food

Nu'uanu Okazuya Menu

If you come to Honolulu, be sure to stop there for munchies. Go early

because they run out of food after 12 and they close soon after.

If I can't drive to my destination, I don't go. I hate the airlines and the morons working "security" at the airport - I don't even like picking people up at the airport. The whole place is a joke.
Now...ask me how I feel about flying.....rant over.

Pete

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Don't tread on me

I'm curious: On what basis do you declare that various TSA policies are "pointless"? Are you employed in the field of aviation safety? Do you have a working knowledge of TSA's policies? Do you know what TSA requires of its employees? Did it occur to you that they might have swabbed your bag for explosives because that's what is required of them any time they open a bag? When the TSA officer told you that what he was doing is "standard procedure", why wasn't that a good enough answer for you? Would you knowingly violate a directive from your employer because someone you didn't know thought it "pointless"?

I read Eloise's rules of Airline Etiquette. She says PB&J are for buses...flying requires tuna fish or cold cuts.

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Thirty characters. Exactly...

On the contrary, I think the above posts show how little people understand about aviation security these days.

All of TSA's policies are contained on that agency's website, and are easy to understand. I fly quite a bit -- not as much as a business traveler, but more than most other folks I know -- and I have never had a problem at a checkpoint. Then again, I follow TSA's rules, and I am friendly and polite to TSA officers, rather than snide and condescending.

Let me cite two recent situations...

When I fly, if I have a checked bag, I put my Leatherman Wave and my Buck folding knife in that bag, since I know they can't go through the checkpoint. But I do carry with me a small keychain Swiss Army knife that I modified by cutting the blade off, leaving only the nail file/screwdriver and scissors, and with it I have a Leatherman Style PS, a small tool that also has no knife blade.

A couple of months ago, I took a short trip to southwestern Florida to visit old friends. At the airports in Baltimore and Fort Myers, I divested those little pocket tools, put them in plain sight in a bin, and waited patiently while the TSA officers did their jobs and inspected them. No problem. The TSA people were professional and courteous, as was I.

Last week I flew again. The guy in front of me had a money clip with a knife blade built into it. Knives are prohibited, there are signs and recorded announcements advising that, and that guy had to have known he was not allowed to have that blade. The TSA guy who inspected the knife told the passenger he could check the bag, mail it back to himself, take it back to his car, or surrender it to be disposed of, but it couldn't go past the checkpoint. What did the passenger do? He started yelling that this isn't America anymore, that TSA's rules are stupid, etc., etc., which got him nowhere.

Know the rules and follow them...it really is that simple.

You don't fly, but you hate airlines, and you know the security people working at the airport are "morons". Gee, for somebody who doesn't fly, you sure seem to know a lot about flying...

I suspect the people who work at the airport are just as happy that you drive everywhere. Personally, I can't drive to Germany or Austria, so I just follow the rules that are clearly posted and I never have a problem. Of course, I don't call TSA officers "morons" either...hmmmm, might that also explain why I have no problem flying?

Used to fly a lot for business - weekly - I don't fly anymore (last two years) so I can't say I should or would be happy with the non-service that the airlines provide today.

As far as the TSA morons go - I can't really believe anyone who is a professional person would have to spend 40 minutes to determine that my 92 year old mother in her wheelchair is OK to go through to board her flight. Yes, she has both knees replaced and arthritis up so bad she can hardly walk which is why she is in the wheelchair. Even the kids in 1rst grade can see she is not a threat in any way shape or form. 40 minutes? Get real.

But if you are happy flying and going through this joke they call security at the airports - have at it! I won't hold it against you, but I'm not interested.

Pete

But you're right - I shouldn't lump them all together and refer to them all as "morons" they're just doing the job as trained by the people in charge. Who knows what careers they had prior to this? I'm sure some are over qualified for the position, some are perhaps not.

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Don't tread on me

I didn't declare that "various TSA policies are 'pointless'", I said that searching my luggage for explosive residue was pointless in view of the fact that I had simply declared a firearm, not said, "I've got a bomb"or anything about explosives... I think you mean "aviation security", rather than "aviation safety", the former having to do with preventing criminal acts, the latter having to do with not crashing the plane, and, I guess I know as much, and maybe a little more about it, as any civilian who can read and understand the published rules and regulations, and who can ask a few questions... As far as I can tell, TSA doesn't require much of it's employees beyond the capability to fog up a mirror, and to show up most of the time... No, it frankly didn't occur to me that TSA might have some policy requiring them to swab any bag they may have opened, because, as far as I know, there's no reason to open every, or any bag, containing a declared firearm, and this is almost never done --- usually, they use their "X-Ray" devices to examine the luggage, and I've never been requested by TSA to open the hard case containing my firearms (untrained, unqualified ticket agents occasionally do, as previously mentioned...) (I once asked a TSA "official" why they cared to give checked firearms any particular scrutiny, since after all, you've announced that you're checking them, they're inaccessible once checked, and of no use in committing a hijacking or the like --- the plausible reply was that a (steel) firearm itself might render some other contraband, an explosive, or etc., invisible to their "X-Ray" equipment, rather than any particular interest in the firearm itself...) His "standard procedure" answer was "good enough" for me in terms of our neither snide nor condescending dialogue --- I hadn't told the poor TSA guy that he was conducting a pointless search, or asked him to contravene what he evidently understood, if perhaps erroneously, to be a policy directive. I didn't argue, just asked.My post was simply intended to illustrate that there are inconsistent, illogical, seemingly idiotic policies in place, that improve neither our security, or our airline travel experience. I recommend some form of exercise other than leaping to conclusions ...

You claim it took 40 minutes for TSA to clear a woman in a wheelchair? And you tell me to get real?

April 1st is still three months off.

The conclusion-leap was made when you declared that something you didn't understand was pointless.

Well, Let me be the first to say Happy New Year.

Uh, Cheers.

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Dum vivo cano

Three slices of Chocolate Rum Cake. It kind of got flattened in transit but the Beagles weren't interested nor the TSA folks. Dark Chocolate Icing with toasted pecan bits. Wish I had another three slices..

I was there - you must not have been.

To me, just the fact that someone needed to ask if it's ok to take a PBJ sandwich with him says a lot about how far off the track that whole system is.

Pete

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Don't tread on me

I think the thing that is being missed, and I will point it out again, is that some people are allergic to peanut product's..
They can raise a big stink over someone eating a peanut product on a plane..
You think the non smokers and non drinkers are off the wall, these peanut zealots put them to shame..
Just saying....

No sir, it is you who is missing the point. The potential restriction has nothing whatsoever to do with possible allergic reactions. Nothing, zip, nada. Please read the TSA information for more information.

Be safe.

I am not talking about TSA policy, I am speaking of the policy of the Air carrier..Believe it or not, there are "peanut free" flight's..Just do a google search if you don't believe me..
If a flight is designated as no peanuts allowed, there goes your PB&J..I had only heard of a stink awhile back with SWA who gives out free bags of peanut's, because of a person who had adverse reactions to them..
Check it out...

Wish they would have a perfume free flight ..jeeze

I would think the TSA would be more concerned with suicide sandwiches...like a Genoa salami, mortadella and prosciutto hero.

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Thirty characters. Exactly...

I saw a YouTube video a week or so ago. A woman in her 80's was sitting in a wheelchair shooting a machine gun. Very funny.
Frisk them all, frisk them all. the old the short and the tall

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It's Alive !!

SW Airlines treated me well. I once remembered that I had a lockblade Henckels knife in my back pocket after I'd declared the S&W M-36-1 in my luggage. That knife has a four-inch blade, but any knife is now illegal.

I told the counter agent, and she took the knife and put it in my checked suitcase and returned my key. Was very nice about it, and probably saved me a lot of grief. Thankfully, the bag hadn't been put on the plane yet.

When I flew, I usually took a Colt .45 automatic, so that I could easily remove the firing pin, stop, and spring and put them in a padded envelope with the gun. I could then show that the firing pin was out of the gun. I think I was only asked once or twice. I was worried about flying with a revolver, but they didn't ask about the firing pin the few times when I did.

The cute SW agent wasn't upset by the knife. Just said how pretty it was. It has very nice stag antler handle scales. It was a gift from my father the year when I went in the USAF. I wanted a lockblade knife like Matt Helm carried in Hamilton's books, and it seemed to fit the description. It has a second blade, a saw.

I thought you had to injest or at least come into contact with peanuts to have any problems if you had an allergy?
Then again, what do I know?

The kids and I flew from Phoenix to Columbus, OH in October. We get up to the checkpoint and TSA tells us we can go through the fast-track lane, or whatever they call it. The one where you don't have to remove shoes, take laptop out, etc., because our boarding passes have a prescreened designation on them. Fine by me. But the guy says, in his best Sgt Friday deadpan voice, that they'll have to swab my hands first.

We step through the metal detector, and it chimes when my eight year old boy goes through. I start to check him for metal and the agent says, "No, it's just a random signal for an extra check, so we have to swab your (meaning my) hands." I start to tell her that they did that 15 seconds ago 15 feet away, but figured why trigger the whole turn-your-head-and-cough treatment.

On the return trip, I go right to the fast lane. The guy looks at my boarding pass, sighs, and in his best "I'm really tired of these morons," voice tells me to go to the main line. Turns out the prescreen designation was only on the kids' boarding passes (because of their ages) but not mine. My overall impression: inconsistant silliness.

Civility and following the rules are the requirements both here AND at the Airport...

We have witnessed a major thread drift

Let this be the last word..

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