sipowicz
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If you are planning a trip to the Big Apple, you may want to read this first...
New Yorkers Aren't Rude. You Are. | John Skylar
New Yorkers Aren't Rude. You Are. | John Skylar
Are New Yorkers Rude or is it you?
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A dozen years in NYC here. Well said!
The few New Yorkers that I've known were rude. And proud of it.
The problem is that they expect special considerations just because they're from New York. Much like this article suggests.
The article also suggests a certain amount of selfishness. As if to say "Why should I be nice to a tourist that's bringing money to my city?!".
Sorry Sip, never been there. Don't want to either.
The problem is that they expect special considerations just because they're from New York. Much like this article suggests.
The article also suggests a certain amount of selfishness. As if to say "Why should I be nice to a tourist that's bringing money to my city?!".
Sorry Sip, never been there. Don't want to either.
Sebago Son
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Fuggadaboutit! In New York, "Rude" is the new "Nice"...
Jyezahn
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I always thought it was part of the experience.
As a former New Yorker (not the City but close enough) many many years ago, come on down to Florida if you want, and I quote:
"This is a sense of entitlement that the pace of this city cannot abide."
Only it's from many States.
We do not care how you did it "Up North"
Are all Californians liberals and air heads??
Just like anywhere there are nice polite folks and not so much. Nicest folks I have met is in MN and WI.
Minnesota nice, just came back from there and could not believe how everyone is so darn pleasant. Servers, Wal Mart, Service stations you name it. Can't say that about NY (City)
"This is a sense of entitlement that the pace of this city cannot abide."
Only it's from many States.
We do not care how you did it "Up North"
Are all Californians liberals and air heads??
Just like anywhere there are nice polite folks and not so much. Nicest folks I have met is in MN and WI.
Minnesota nice, just came back from there and could not believe how everyone is so darn pleasant.
Servers, Wal Mart, Service stations you name it. Can't say that about NY (City)shouldazagged
Absent Comrade
Sip, the word that comes to mind is "reciprocity".
If I come to your city I will try to adapt to its culture, rules and traffic patterns. I'd really appreciate it if when New Yorkers come to my city they try to do the same.
To be fair, I see some do that. But I've seen a lot more who considered a metro area of only a million people to be a backwater and (because they mistakenly believe this is a southern city instead of lower Midwest) a sink of toothless, shoeless, hillbilly redneckery. They mistake our slower gait for lazy stupor. They complain that they can't get what they consider decent sushi or pastrami at 0400.
Some of the southern thing is the fault of Louisvillians who like to play the "welcome to the Old South" schtick at Kentucky Derby time. Some of it is the fact that residents of mega-cities (notably New York and LA in this country) tend to be some of the most provincial people on earth. If it isn't happening where they conduct their lives it can't be too important.
The Viennese used to have a saying about Hungary, including its wonderfully cosmopolitan Budapest, "Asia begins three miles east of Vienna." Naturally the people of Budapest have similar things to say about Austria.
Parisians may like the food of Provence or Normandy, but can't take those areas seriously because they aren't Paris.
Many years ago Elizabeth Taylor flew into Louisville for the Derby. She arrived frog-eyed drunk and greeted a group of excited fans with "Hello-o-o, hicks!" Most New Yorkers who visit us are a lot less crude than that, but not all.
So I'll meet you halfway: I'll try to keep up if I visit New York, if you'll respect our pace and manners when you come here.
If I come to your city I will try to adapt to its culture, rules and traffic patterns. I'd really appreciate it if when New Yorkers come to my city they try to do the same.
To be fair, I see some do that. But I've seen a lot more who considered a metro area of only a million people to be a backwater and (because they mistakenly believe this is a southern city instead of lower Midwest) a sink of toothless, shoeless, hillbilly redneckery. They mistake our slower gait for lazy stupor. They complain that they can't get what they consider decent sushi or pastrami at 0400.
Some of the southern thing is the fault of Louisvillians who like to play the "welcome to the Old South" schtick at Kentucky Derby time. Some of it is the fact that residents of mega-cities (notably New York and LA in this country) tend to be some of the most provincial people on earth. If it isn't happening where they conduct their lives it can't be too important.
The Viennese used to have a saying about Hungary, including its wonderfully cosmopolitan Budapest, "Asia begins three miles east of Vienna." Naturally the people of Budapest have similar things to say about Austria.
Parisians may like the food of Provence or Normandy, but can't take those areas seriously because they aren't Paris.
Many years ago Elizabeth Taylor flew into Louisville for the Derby. She arrived frog-eyed drunk and greeted a group of excited fans with "Hello-o-o, hicks!" Most New Yorkers who visit us are a lot less crude than that, but not all.
So I'll meet you halfway: I'll try to keep up if I visit New York, if you'll respect our pace and manners when you come here.
Bkreutz
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I think most "big city" people are rude. I find it the same anywhere in the world. I hear Americans say; "I visited Paris (insert Rome, Berlin, or London) and find the French (insert Italians, Germans, or English) to be rude." Then I hear French (insert Italian, German, or English) say; "I visited New York and found the Americans are all rude." I always tell people that you can't get a feeling about a country or it's people in a 2 week tour of the major cities or tourist sites. It's away from the cities where the true nature of a country shines through. I lived in a small German town (pop. 225 and no gasthof) and it was the one of the more pleasant places I've ever lived.
) and it was the one of the more pleasant places I've ever lived.
duppie
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I've lived,attended college and still work in Manhattan and it's not so much that we're considered rude but more that we don't suffer fools lightly..... we just can't spare the time.As the article says, all we ask is that before visiting you learn somethings about us and the city. A good start is learning how to walk on our sidewalks and that a 10% tip may be fine in Des Moines but it ain't cutting it Manhattan.
7shooter
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Rule 3 .. If you liked Minnesota nice try North Dakota nice . I've lived in both states and people there really are courteous and helpful.
gdnagle
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I don't go to big cities they have nothing to offer me. I like the sloooow pace. It's getting too crowded around here where I live from all the people moving here from outa state. I'm not native here but lived by their rules when I got here. Nothing nicer then riding down the road and almost everyone you see waving to you and not even knowing you. Only people that do it now are the older folks.
I sure as heck don't like driving behind anyone from NY on 81 when I have to got to the big city of Winchester, VA, or anyone with NJ tags either.
Give me the slow life as that's my style people are nicer, friendlier, and would help you out. Time for me to move farther out if I could talk the wife into it. Shoot off the porch when I want, or just sit beside the stream or pond with the fishin' pole with a sack lunch with the little lady and let time go by. Then not worry weather I should follow some else's rules or rudeness.
But yes just like going to another country you need to know their rules of conduct or you won't feel welcome.
I sure as heck don't like driving behind anyone from NY on 81 when I have to got to the big city of Winchester, VA, or anyone with NJ tags either.
Give me the slow life as that's my style people are nicer, friendlier, and would help you out. Time for me to move farther out if I could talk the wife into it. Shoot off the porch when I want, or just sit beside the stream or pond with the fishin' pole with a sack lunch with the little lady and let time go by. Then not worry weather I should follow some else's rules or rudeness.
But yes just like going to another country you need to know their rules of conduct or you won't feel welcome.
straightshooter1
US Veteran
They talk funny, too!
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mg357
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I have Never been to new york and i am Not a rude person i bite people's heads off sometimes i also lose my temper and at times i am really cranky But i am not rude.
Harrison
US Veteran
Thankfully I have never been to NYC and don't plan on going. One thing I have noticed about people from the City, they talk funny and talk fast. Slow down enjoy life.
duppie
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Now you do realize that your little anecdote occurred 30 years ago right?
If you kept up with the times you'll find that Manhattan is considered to be one of the safest,cleanest cities in America today, since 9/11 and even before we were reborn and tourism has tripled and continues to increase.
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SmokeStack Lightning
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I always like Yew Nork every time I see it in my rear veiw mirror.
Cooter Brown
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Well, I certainly hope you're happy with yourself, Sip.
I guess things were getting just a little too broccoli for you around here, huh?
I guess things were getting just a little too broccoli for you around here, huh?
Gunslinger808
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Back when I was working I used to travel to New York quite a bit.
In my earlier encounters I found New Yorkers to be rude, loud, and abrasive.
After 9/11 attitudes changed, I didn't seem to encounter the same level of anger that there was prior to it.
Maybe no correlation, but it sure seemed to me that that terrible day took a lot of wind out of their sails.
In my earlier encounters I found New Yorkers to be rude, loud, and abrasive.
After 9/11 attitudes changed, I didn't seem to encounter the same level of anger that there was prior to it.
Maybe no correlation, but it sure seemed to me that that terrible day took a lot of wind out of their sails.
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