Australian police find 328 guns, 4.2 tons of ammo at farm - World News

"Among the 328 weapons were military-style automatic rifles, some of which were worth up to $50,000 each, and Glock handguns worth $10,000, police said."

What Glock is worth $10,000?? Do 18's go for that much?

I'd guess an 18 might fetch that much, especially in Australia.

That smells to high heaven. Do the math, even if you allow a whooping half a million for ammo, the guns come out to be worth $7621 each on average. Didn't see any gold plating in the pictures.

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I read the story this morn. It sounds like a healthy dose of journalistic license was taken by someone with ZERO knowledge of firearms. SOP for the anti-gun media.

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What a shame for those poor folks-the owners-. Most of the guns pictured were just regular hunting and old surplus military rifles. Nothing exotic or evil.
I wonder if the day will come for us?????
WE had better be prepared, because I fear we are next.

Remember though, Jack, that AU is universally anti-gun. Anything like the confiscate cache is viewed by the govt. to be a staggering crime perpetrated by crazies.

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"Our fear is that these firearms are high-caliber firearms that if they got into the wrong hands they could certainly be used in a nasty way."

Just imagine the carnage if that Winchester lever-action shotgun or SMLE was converted to full-auto!

I remember about 10-15 years ago here when some old guy was found with hundreds of "military grade weapons" in a self storage. OMG the media was insane....they even showed pictures and you know what? These in fact were "military grade weapons" ....circa 1920. Enfields SMLEs, Mosin Nagants, Mauser 98s,

Can you imagine the horror? A bolt action 80 year old rifle!!

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If you look in the picture, on the right hand side, 4th one up from the bottom, is a springer air rifle. Now that is some serious armament.
Glen

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Too bad what has happened to Australia

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I have a British Enfield .303 "military grade" rifle. Guess it was pretty high grade 73 years ago. Wonder what the media would make out of that?

As soon as I saw "NBC" in the article I knew it had more to do with stirring things up here than down there.

If I was that Detective Superintendent I would change my last name or at least not give it to the media. I would think that most if not all of the rifles on the table are quite common for use in the Outback (not the restaurant). And now using telescopic lenses makes the firearm more lethal? God forbid these firearms could be used in a "nasty way".

Australia's only claim to fame is the Outback (the restaurant) and toilets that flush in the opposite direction. Other than that I consider this to be a nonstory.

I'm guessing that if these men are found guilty they will be tallywhacked and forced to watch Crocodile Dundee movies without any butter on their popcorn.

They would call it a Chain gun or a Gatling gun.
They are all full of:

PS, those guns will soon be made into paper clips.

What a load of down under brown. Most appeared to be bolt action hunting guns, old shotguns and g0d forbid an actual air gun.

Air gun?

Fellow Earthlings living down under, air guns?

Y'all need to elect better public officials. Is it too late to do a Colorado style recall?

That could be cartain members of this forum. right! I have only been here a few months and already have 30 S&W hand guns, two shot gunss, (one a "sawed off" sg) and a few thousand rounds of ammo. And I am a newbie. [I got the disease...can't pass a gun shop!]

BTW I nolonger say I can stop any time I want.

Yep , the Brits would pride themselves on being able to do what they called the "mad minute". Ten (or more?) aimed shots in under a minute with their SMLE's! Practically a machine gun!

"Coming soon to a theatre near you!"... if they can get away with it.

Take warning.These were good guns until just a few years ago some nut shot the place up,then "reasonable gun laws " were passed to protect the people and "save the kids".A movements working day and night to protect us from ourselves.

But guys....some of the guns had TELESCOPIC lenses for God's sake! They must be disposed of....and quickly.

Tallywhacked??? With a tallywhacker????!

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if it wasn't so sad it would be funny. just look at all of the state of the art military grade weapons. if course it state of the art 70-80 yrs ago.

I think one of the members here said that when the roundup started (was it '97?) you could not find an inch of Schedule 80 PVC pipe in all of Oz.

I don't think they got nearly all of 'em. I lived in the outback of W.A. for four years. Most of the blokes I knew wouldn't be real happy about turning in their stuff.

Yea, military weapons from the Boer War and WWI!?!

Double barrel shotguns...Oh, and the air rifle!!!

OOOOOOhhhh....AAAhhhhhhhh

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But then, what do I know?

The Australian response to the gun pick up there will always be typified by the woman who hunted down he guy who raped her grand daughter and shot him in the testicles, at least for me.

Sadly, Australia has no constitutional protection for private ownership of firearms. I guess that like some places in the USA the city dwellers outnumber the rural dwellers and outvote them. I think these folks were foolish for having guns in excess of what they were allowed to have (I believe the story said they were allowed 73 guns).

Glock does make a full auto pistol, our Sheriff carries one.

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Quoted values like these illustrate what to expect with strict gun control laws. Prior to the Clinton-era "assault weapon ban" you could pick up a nice used Ruger Mini-14 for $200 or less (they were about $239 new at the stores), and military surplus 20-round M-16 magazines sat in stacks at the gun shows for $5.00 or less (I purchased a case of 120, new in the wrappers, for $350.00 cash). Imported Chinese AK-47's were readily available for $250 or less. After the AWB was passed that Ruger Mini-14 went up to $500-$600, and the pre-ban 20-round M16 mags were selling for $40.00-plus each. Those Chinese AK-47's went up double, triple, and more (especially those with the folding stock; I had one someone had traded to me for the equivalent of about $250 that I sold after the ban for $1200).

Even with the National Firearms Act of 1934 regulating machineguns and other weapons for half-a-century, when the ban on newly manufactured machineguns went into effect in the 1980's prices on pre-ban transferable pieces doubled, then doubled again, and then doubled again. Prior to the ban a Thompson M1 SMG (WW2 production) could be had for $2000 or less; now with the ban you would have a hard time finding one for $20,000. S&W's little M76 9mm SMG had a retail price of around $800 before the ban; now the transferable pre-ban pieces will easily bring $20,000. US M2 Carbines of Korean War vintage were available during the late 1970's for about $500 plus the $200 tax stamp; now you probably couldn't find one for $15,000.

Street gangs in NYC or Washington, DC don't get their guns from local dealers, pawn shops, or gun shows. They come from burglars and other criminals in surrounding states that know they can get top dollar for guns from criminal elements in places where guns are heavily restricted.

Mexican criminals using straw purchasers to acquire semi-auto firearms in US gun shops for smuggling into Mexico don't expect bargain pricing. They pay retail, plus pay the straw purchaser, plus pay the people who smuggle the gun across the border.

While there might be no one in the US willing to pay more than $500 or so for any Glock, in a nation where they are prohibited I would expect to find many willing (criminal) buyers with wads of cash ready to purchase. For those who haven't looked at a map or globe, Australia is essentially an island continent, no contiguous borders with any other country. Criminals who want prohibited firearms will have to acquire illegally held weapons already there, or pay what it costs to smuggle them in.

In short, gun control laws have the effect of creating a black market for illegal goods, stolen or smuggled in for significant profits. Determined criminals, as well as psychotic killers, will continue to obtain what they want, albeit at higher cost. The only people affected by the bans are those who willingly comply with the laws, and they lose not only their rights to possess certain items, they also lose the means to protect themselves from criminal acts.

I remember one time about the news going barking crazy over a bust where they found 18 guns and approximately 2000 rounds of ammo in some guys home.

I'm thinking "Uh oh"

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Yup. I'm in deep trouble then!

Reading some stats on Aussie gun control, 1) they never had a lot of guns, 2) most of them really don't care, 3) murder rate stayed the same after the gun grab (ie: they can not prove taking the guns save one life), and
4) gun murders have dropped. Knives have stepped up to fill the void.

Apparently, where there is a will, there is a way.

Black Market Markup!!!

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Now that is just sick. Why not just show pictures of baby seals being clubbed. It would not upset me much more.

Apparently violent crime is on the rise in Australia (and in the UK) while it is on the decline here in the USA.

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I am taking all my weapons to Australia and sell them. Now that is what I call a real return on investment!!! The hell with the stock market, black market return is terrific.

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You would think a country that has animals with pouches that can conceal a handgun would be more gun friendly.

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Thirty characters. Exactly...

Next they will ban all pointy objects. Who is in charge there anyway? is it ???

Didn't see any guns made from a Pop-Tart so they haven't reached the level of insanity displayed in this country.

The Brits are leading the charge! BBC NEWS | Health | Doctors' kitchen knives ban call

And next it will be hammers and clubs, quickly followed by rocks over the size of pea gravel. Just wait 'till they ban men's ties, so no one can use them as a garrote or a slingshot.

What these 'banners' don't recognize is that almost anything can be used as a weapon, and the most dangerous weapon is the one riding around on your shoulders that can make and use the rest. Of course, the schools with their zero-tolerance policies and the mass-media are doing their best to eliminate the threat from the last.

There was some noise about GB banning glass mugs and pints in the pubs and making plastic or 'safety glass' mandatory. Those wacky Brits would get so snockered drinking their warm ale during happy hour and get into fights , using the mugs as weapons and racking up some serious medical bills.

British Government Considers Mandating Plastic Pint Glasses



Trying to control stabbings by banning knives that have a point on the end was bad enough. But this is really going too far.

QUOTE, "The BBC reported recently that the British Home Office is seeking a new design for pint glasses that it hopes may reduce the number of incidents in which people attack each other with pint glasses. According to official statistics, 5,500 people are attacked with glasses and bottles every year in England and Wales. (Probably more in Scotland, though maybe they just use swords.) This public safety emergency has spurred the government into action, seeking a design that can't be used as a weapon."

$10,000 Glock handguns, plural, at $500 each tht is only 20 pistols.

and somehow if these particular guns never find their way into the hands of a person with homicidal intent then those would be criminals would just give up on any criminal intent?

How are they going to determine if any of the had been involved in a crime? Perhaps through ballistics matching, but unless a serial number has been reported stolen or was previously in police possession as evidence and serial number recorded, and if so how did they get out of police custody.

Yup, already knew. I found out about that after I had a small novelty knife returned to me from British Customs. They hated it twice over because its in the shape of a GI 45 and blade folds up into the barrel.

Unless the author did not graduate from high school, that means there were several Glocks valued at $10,000 each!!! Not several Glocks with a total value of $10,000 which is how you are trying to read it’s meaning. That is what makes it so absurd.

One can assume that since there is a ban , those are likely black market prices.

My GOD!!! High cap, high velocity, telescopic sights, night vision.

Sure was a sad day when my "stockpile" of weaponry was lost
in the boating accident. I happened to also have all my mags
and ammo in the boat at the time the boat capsized.
But i'm perfectly content now with my simple Air rifles and
Pellet guns you know.

Chuck

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Don't know how close to reality that is. A good friend of mine is a retired RCMP LEO in Canada. She now works as a Parole Officer. She said she, even with HER BACKGROUND, can only have a shotgun, for bears, and the only handgun she can own is a pellet gun.

Sadly I thing we are headed there at full speed.

?????? i own 17 handguns from 22s to 44s -legally.they are in my safe right now. except the one im "playing with" presently.
i am a law abiding canadian citizen.
perhaps she meant legally carrying? thats against our laws. without a wilderness carry permit(difficult to obtain) , one is left with rifles or shotguns for protection. unless you have a prescribed antique handgun, those can carried and fired where ever a non restricted firearm may be fired.
our handgun laws are seemingly less restrictive than some of your states laws. new york or california seems worse to me, but i dont know for fact.

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