Silencers!

[dcxplant]

So I'm in the market for a .22 (pistol and rifle) and .223/5.56 (for AR) silencers.

I have a couple in mind, but I wanted to crowd source on here because the BS factor is lower here than on many other forums.... Even on suppressor forums there is a lot of speculators giving advise without ever owning much less using a silencer.

Preferably, I'd like just one of each, but in the case of .22 I'd be willing to have two, one for rifle one for pistol, if it is asking too much of the platform.

Weight is not my top priority, but if I can get low weight and still keep my priorities, that'd be awesome.

My top priorities in descending order:
-Performance (first round pop and overall Db reduction)
-Full auto rated, and multi-cal.
-Durability/ease of cleaning and maintenance
-Weight
-Cost

Thanks!!!

[jaykellogg]

If you use Standard velocity .22LR it will be pretty quiet. I am not sure what you want to do with the .223/5.56, but you cannot effectively silence it. It will be heard a quarter mile away. I have an AR with a Gemtech G5-T. With the silencer, I can shoot the carbine without ear protectors, but that is about all. If you hand load the .223 to subsonic levels it will not operate the gun. You can use a .22 rimfire silencer on both a .22 pistol and Rifle. I have a Savage bolt action rifle that will accept a silencer and a S&W M&P22. There is still some sound but not much. You can get a .300 blackout upper for an AR and I hear these can be silenced. Essentially this is a .223 necked up to .30 cal. I paid $1400 plus $200 for the stamp for the .223 silencer.

[rodcraft]

The swr spectre meets your requirements. I've been very pleased with it. It's $100 more than the entry level cans but since you're buying it 'forever', I thought the durability was worth it over the aluminum models.

Have fun, try to find a place to buy from where you can 'visit' during your wait.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Speaking of... I just picked up a rimfire can from jail today.
You're right, there's endless hype about cans.

I've got a Yankee Hill Wraith and Silencerco Sparrow. The Sparrow is among the most popular, and the Yankee Hill Wraith is among the least popular.

The Wraith is a larger volume can with a 1.25in diameter and is 5.5in long. Is has superior sound reduction and near zero FRP... size (volume) matters. General Note for all cans: FRP is not an issue with .22 rifles, just pistols. The Wraith is a sealed can (most folks will tell you to never buy a can that isn't user serviceable) and relatively light at 5oz. I put 20k+ rounds through it then sent it back to Yankee Hill for cleaning. Free of charge. I put another 20k+ and sent it back to Yankee Hill. They replaced the baffle at a charge of $100. Could not be more pleased with the can in terms of performance and not fooling around with cleaning. It did gain a little weight before sending in for service but no perceivable reduction in performance. Nice quiet low tone. Being larger in diameter than most rimfire cans, it isn't well suited for pistols unless using a red dot or scope.

Silencerco Sparrow. The unique design of the Sparrow has made it very popular. It is user serviceable like many other rimfire cans, but it has a unique clamshell design that allows it to be taken apart much easier for cleaning after a significant number of rounds fired. It is a little on the heavy side at 6.5oz, but otherwise compact at only 5'' long. Unlike the Wraith, the clamshells and baffle is stainless steel and should last a very very long time. Nasty FRP... but relatively quiet after that.

Don't get too hung up on sound reduction specs because all rimfire cans are quiet enough that you really can't tell the difference unless you are comparing side by side listening for small differences. FRP don't mean anything for general recreational shooting because it's no where near loud enough for hearing protection. If it is an issue around the house or hunting, you can wet the can.

I would not purchase a centerfire can with the intention of using it on .22LR. You will hear that idea floated around by guys buying cans for their ARs. They are just too big and heavy for use on a rimfire pistol, and .22s are way too dirty anyway.

Do your homework and buy a rimfire can that best suits your criteria regardless of price (think Apple). With the long waits and $200 price of a tax stamp, there's no sense in trying to save a few bucks and not get the can you really want. From the time I originally purchased the Sparrow to the time it was transferred to my dealer took over a month. Then it took another 10 months from the time I mailed in the paperwork until the tax stamp arrived at the dealer. Wait times are expected to be around 15 months now, and that doesn't count getting it transferred from where you buy it to your dealer. SilencerShop is a good place to shop online. http://www.silencershop.com

Wraith:



Sparrow:

[CptCurl]

A .22 suppressor is versatile and great fun. My choice was the Liberty Essence. It's an advanced titanium monocore design rated full auto and rated for various smaller center fire calibers. It weighs about 4 oz and is extremely quiet.

It runs perfectly on my S&W Model 41 and does not obstruct the sights at all. With standard velocity CCI ammo all you hear is the slide cycling and the bullet hitting downrange.



I also use it on my custom Winchester Model 52C:





It makes the Winchester more quiet than my Beeman air rifle. No exaggeration.

I have a full-size Uzi SMG with a Gemtech Mossad suppressor. With subsonic 147 grain ammo all you hear is the bolt cycling. Here's a friend firing it. You can follow this YouTube link. I couldn't get it to embed here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=kV6ZcVh10PoL

For a comparison, here's the same Uzi being fired by another buddy of mine, without the suppressor:

YouTube

Yes, silencers are a hoot. I am currently pending on a Thunder Beast 30P-1 that will go on a .300 Win. Mag. precision rifle and on my .300 AAC Blackout upper (for use on my M16A1 lower).

[jrm53]

I have never fired one but a friend in Mo has one and I have threaded 3 10-22 barrels for him in 1/2-28 threads he also uses/screws it on a FN Herstal hopped up bottle neck 22 pistol. I doubt if it works on the pistol because they are to fast for it to work. Jeff

[dcxplant]

Thanks folks!

I'm liking the Essence and the Sparrow.