Musician David Crosby: Pro Gun In The Extreme.

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I'm reading David Crosby's 1988 autobio "Long Time Gone". There has been occasional references to him carrying a gun a lot. Then he gets into the subject with extreme enthusiasm saying how he was Junior NRA shooter as a kid and always loved guns. For self defense and also the beauty of their construction. He writes about the 2nd amendment as if Wayne LaPierre or anyone on this forum would. He get's into his rational of being an anti-war hippie who believes in self preservation. At one point he chose personally not to have guns around as he lived the hippie lifestyle, until the Manson family murders a half mile from his house. Then he packed a gun and practiced all the time. His favorite guns were a nickel Colt Commander .45, a few Browning High Powers, and a S&W Model 25 because it shot the same ammo as his 1911s.
When three guys with guns and ski masks broke the glass on the door into his bedroom, his pregnant girlfriend rolled out of bed while Crosby grabbed his .45 and fired a couple rounds at them. They split and his girlfriend, just as practiced in his drills, backed him up with a 12 gauge pump and a spare clip for him if he needed it.
I found this fascinating because his reasons for being pro-gun and an icon of the "peace and love" era is not a contradiction as he brilliantly articulates it in this book.
 
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I read that one a couple years back, and recall how pleased I was to learn of that aspect of him. Great read all around.
 
So then, you are saying he can load a chamber as fast as he can load a bowl of weed??:p
I'd say 'crack'- but I think he might have finally cured himself of that.:(:rolleyes:

You boil it all down, he has had some serious missteps in life, but then again, he was the white-hot tip of the spear in a CRAZY time in the world. And he did not advocate unnecessary violence upon anyone, while advocating protecting ones' own self, and being maybe the most notable front voice for a generation at the cusp of the most profound changing 5 years in modern history.

He's all right by me.
 
rojodiablo said:
So then, you are saying he can load a chamber as fast as he can load a bowl of weed??:p
I'd say 'crack'- but I think he might have finally cured himself of that.:(:rolleyes:

You boil it all down, he has had some serious missteps in life, but then again, he was the white-hot tip of the spear in a CRAZY time in the world. And he did not advocate unnecessary violence upon anyone, while advocating protecting ones' own self, and being maybe the most notable front voice for a generation at the cusp of the most profound changing 5 years in modern history.

He's all right by me.
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Exactly. But mostly what he was loading was the latter. And his friends in the book says he was never without his shoulder bag full of spare change (which for him was a few thousand bucks), huge amounts of drugs, and that Colt .45 auto. What I liked about it is, he never once showed any elitism about how it's OK for him to own a gun but other people can't quite handle the responsibility that we see so often. Of course, drugs and guns, in fact drugs and life, don't mix, but I'm only commenting on his great point of view on gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment here.
 
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I flew down to Florida and took my brother and s-i-l to a CSN concert a few years back for my brother's birthday. They stayed on stage during intermission and preached their anti-everything rhetoric (mostly Graham Nash). We got up and left.

They were my favorite band growing up along with N. Young but I have avoided their music since.

I listened to a Crosby interview recently. I think he has some interesting, semi-rational ideas. I'm starting to warm up to him a bit. But Nash is basically dead to me.
 
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I believe Crosby has been drug-free for many years now. He admits the damage it did, but still is a very intelligent. gifted guy. Not all crispy like some of his flamed-out contemporaries.
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Having a liver transplant may have cured him of alcohol and drugs. I do not know how he can posess a firearm due to his arrests and time in jail.

Always like their music and he also founded The Byrds.
 
The bio of his was written in 1988. The stuff about guns written then, after his Texas bust as mentioned above here and rehab, were probably past tense. He might not own guns anymore but still has the same opinions of them today. G. Gordon Liddy was a convicted felon and said he didn't own any guns. His wife does, though, and they are all on her side of the bed now.
 
It's a distinct possibility he has had his record cleared by the courts if he had done all the maneuvering they required of him. Many, many people have messed up and been able to not get their convictions removed or receive pardons, but rather as conditions of their plea agreements and future positive deeds to convince a judge to allow the reduction of a conviction or removal of a restriction.

In other words, quite possible he played a concert for a judge's daughters' wedding and he was cut a little slack. (Only a suggested possibility. I have heard absolutely nothing of this sort, just fabricating an example of a possible way to make a square rock roll a little bit.)
 
Something in the back of my mind says that he was busted for having a M911 in his gear at DFW several years ago. Perhaps someone can affirm or deny that.

Saw a great Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young concert many, many years ago.

Bob
 
I always thought he was pretty weird, but I have to admire some of his actions.

He was incarcerated for quite a while. For drugs or whatever, I don't remember. Anyways, he was in a pretty cushy white collar type part of the prison. He asked to have a guitar, but was told that was against the rules. They told him he could only have a guitar in his cell if he left the cushy block and went into the general population of the prison.

So he did.
 
Talented guy,had one hell of a coke problem,but he seems to have beat it [emoji106]Saw CSN at red rocks a few years ago.They are still pretty good.
 
rojodiablo said:
It's a distinct possibility he has had his record cleared by the courts if he had done all the maneuvering they required of him. Many, many people have messed up and been able to not get their convictions removed or receive pardons, but rather as conditions of their plea agreements and future positive deeds to convince a judge to allow the reduction of a conviction or removal of a restriction.

In other words, quite possible he played a concert for a judge's daughters' wedding and he was cut a little slack. (Only a suggested possibility. I have heard absolutely nothing of this sort, just fabricating an example of a possible way to make a square rock roll a little bit.)
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Kinda sorta the way he somehow get to the front of the "line" for a transplant. Money has it's privileges.;)
Supposedly Phil Collins paid for it.

Regardless it was a whole different time then and I still enjoy their music. The harmonies were great. They are all still plugging away, and doing shows. Have not heard much from Steven Stills though.
 
kozmic said:
I flew down to Florida and took my brother and s-i-l to a CSN concert a few years back for my brother's birthday. They stayed on stage during intermission and preached their anti-everything rhetoric (mostly Graham Nash). We got up and left.

They were my favorite band growing up along with N. Young but I have avoided their music since.

I listened to a Crosby interview recently. I think he has some interesting, semi-rational ideas. I'm starting to warm up to him a bit. But Nash is basically dead to me.
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I've been a folk music fan since my teens, and I have long gotten used to the fact that most of those folks whose music I so love have very different notions from mine on many other topics. But I have only walked out of one concert...

About 20 years ago, my wife and I took the kids to see Cheryl Wheeler. She introduced an anti-gun tune by telling the audience that the AR15 could be modified to shoot 900 rounds per minute (the woman sitting behind me gasped upon hearing this) and that she occasionally fantasized about shooting an NRA member. My then-8 year old son (who is now a federal law enforcement officer) looked up at me and said "Dad, does she really want to shoot us?"

We got up and walked out, and the next day I called her agent and had a long talk with him about her little "joke". I haven't bought one of her albums or gone to another one of her concerts since...
 
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