......But it seems that the Ebola issue could have been handled better. Would it have been unthinkable to have not allowed any flights from Africa? They say you can hardly contract the disease but the one attending nurse in Dallas who was dressed properly got it. Our troops are over there to construct places for the sick to stay. Do we no longer have hospital ships? Is there any person in any position of authority be it military or of any persuasion of political position who has spoken up about this? It's too late now but I kept waiting to hear the obvious and it's not forth coming. Are you hearing anything of promise? Please do not treat this as political. Getting sick with Ebola crosses all lines.

It gives me a distinct feeling of being sold up a river by an incompetent broker.
We have the CDC saying you practically have to mainline infected bodily fluid to get it, while we see people walking around in gumby suits, "just in case".
no one is telling us how to protect ourselves from it, or what we can do to help contain it should we fail to avoid contracting it.
That's some rather vital information that we should have right now, and and don't.
It's a disgusting state of affairs.
We are at some untold level of danger, and left high and dry, essentially left to die.

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Still more likely to get struck by lightning.

Pretty low on my list of "things to worry about."

IMHO.

You stop flight here from Africa but you can't stop them from flying elsewhere and then here. Or flying elsewhere, getting someone sick unknowingly who then comes here. You would have to shut the US border to everyone.

Sounds like a plan to me.

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Do you say confine it and contain it?
At its location of origin?
Works for me!

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NOTHING wrong with that.
Unfortunately anyone can still come up from the south.

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Honestly, all air travel to and from that area should have stopped like they did in previous outbreaks but not this time.

Nothing except everything. You would have to stop ALL travel, anyone and everyone. No import no export, no expo8

Boys, I understand that there is an economic disaster looming in conjunction with the medical downside. Years ago I used to book whitewing hunts into old Mexico. When I brought my retrievers back from the hunts it was two weeks in quarantine. Why can't we do that with travelers from the countries affected? Dogs always passed with no issues. No animals were hurt (except the whitewings) in the making of this post.

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I respectfully disagree. You can stop all direct commercial air travel to affected countries. You can also stop most indirect. All travelers have a passport. It has to be stamped where that trip started. Prior to boarding for the US, you have a passport inspection. Trip started at west Africa - you don't board. Health workers can be dealt with separately. They can leave the US and arrive back at a single, controlled point and can be quarantined upon arrival. For example at the Training Center in the Nevada desert.

Import and export is not the same thing as travel. While the high speed container ships make the trip quite fast, there is nothing wrong with making them ride at anchor or go in circles outside the three mile limit for about 14 days. Sorry if COSCO or Hapag-Lloyd loses money.

While no embargo works 100%, actions such as these cut the probability of contamination. Mr. Duncan would have been stopped at Brussels. Right now 70 health workers have been identified as having direct contact with him. Think of the contamination vectors from this alone.

Our and Europe's major problem is that all of our countries have individuals in positions of authority or leadership, whether secular or religious, who are pathological altruists who have no problems putting their own citizens, congregations and neighbors at significant risk to "help" other countries and/or groups with no clear goals or objectives.

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Yes all that can be done. But the fuel used to burn the 15 days of going in circles will cost. So will the delays and flat out temp bans on products from certain countries. I doubt that those companies will just eat the cost. For instance, we get our rubber from Liberia also timber and industrial diamonds.

In 2003 the measures taken to against SARS were economic disasters. In something like a month it cost 40 + billion dollars in global economy and this was before the financial crisis

to bad about the cost. what is your life worth?

What is the potential cost for medical treatment of infected citizens? Who paying for that?

Not a hill of beans, if I can't afford to enjoy it in the style I've become used to.

Yes because the economic effects won't last for years after. If you think the economy is bad now shot it down for a month and see what happens 5 years from now.
So its been here for about 3 weeks and we have what 3 people infected? The same 3 weeks of closing the borders will cost a lot more. Higher prices, more unemployment, more crime......

The economic repercussions of Hurricane Sandy.... An estimated loss of $950 million in Travel & Tourism spending in New Jersey in 2013 will reduce total output in New Jersey by $1.2 billion primarily in the 3rd quarter of this year and reduce employment by over 11,000 workers primarily in the Accommodations, Food Services, Retail, Amusements and Performing Arts and the Transportation Services sectors.


This is all doable if there was no world economy.

The issue is Ebola - not the economy, unemployment, etc. The fact is we have no clear leadership or management of this issue from the Federal Government. The CDC got caught lying about medical protocols in Dallas and the nurses in Dallas shot back there has been no training, no written documents, no prepositioned PPE - ever and the CDC said they violated medical protocols when there were none. That is incompetence, mismanagement, and a lack of leadership at the highest levels of government. We all pay for this and we certainly hold these people to a higher standard given the positions they hold. And it is costing us plenty to keep these people in their positions so they can do nothing. SOP - Deny everything - Admit nothing. and it seems to work.

Sorry - rant over.

Wonder where they will promote the head of CDC after he gets thrown under the bus.

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We'll go with one ebola thread at a time.

New Dallas Ebola Case Confirmed

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