If I take a six pack of beer and cover it with 5' of snow in labworms back yard with the ambient air temp at-1 degree and bury a 6 six pack in a snow bank 5' deep further south where the ambient air temp is 28 degrees; will beer in both locations have an internal temp of 32 degrees?

The beer at Lab's will be colder

The beer farther south will be colder. Labworm would never let beer just lay around in his backyard long enough to reach ambient air temp.

Just pretend this is witty.

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It doesn't matter. If any male neighbors between the ages of 13 and 90 see you in the act, it won't be there when you dig it back up silly. C'mon.

Scientifically and not being witty at all; snow is a great insulator. Therefore the temp of the beer will be exactly the same at both locations over the short run. It will not be 32 degrees as the transfer of heat from the beer to the snow will use some calories of heat making the beer 32 degs plus a fraction of a degree. Time in the snow bank and ambient temps around zero raises a new wrinkle in the problem. Eventually given enough time the snow will be cooled lower than 32 deg. and therefore anything in the snow will be cooler as well. Now, given who's backyard the beer is in negates that problem because no beer is going to last long enough for ambient atmosphere temps to get to the beer. :-)

The Alaskan/Canadian Natives were very good at surviving deep cold snaps by building a traditional igloo structure out of snow. The internal temp would hover around 32/33 deg without any heat other than body heat. The usual cold weather clothing would allow survival even at that temp. By adding a candle or two the internal temp could be brought up to 36/38 deg. They always built a sump in the floor for the water from melted snow to flow into. But I digress. .............. Big Cholla

Back in the college days in upstate NY, buying $1.19 Fosters oil cans at the distributor then burying them in a snowbank was the preferred method to get 'em just right temp-wise.

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Sled dogs burrow into the snow for the night. It's only 32 deg under there which is warmer than the -40 deg in the open air.

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....they were BIG!

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If you worked the chill factor into the equation, mine would be colder.

By the way, where did you hide them in my back yard?

Will be out there again sometime this afternoon, I may find them.

Hope they are Samuel Adams Lager.

Correction made.

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What's wrong with Samuel Adams Smaller?

All I know is that if a bunch of 15-16 year old boys bury the remains of a case of Coors Light near Keystone, CO in mid March, it will freeze and bust by the next time they are able to sneak away for a cold one. I can only tell this story because I'm pretty sure the statute of limitations on under-age drinking is less than 30 years.

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My favorite bar is the ICE BAR in Crested Butte, Colorado, it is outdoors on the side of Crested Butte Mountain which usually has sub-freezing temperatures. In order to keep the bottled beers from freezing they cover them with snow.

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That experiment can easily be duplicated in your house freezer model70. Both brews will turn into a hoppie-tasting slurpie. Not bad, but very difficult to do beer bongs with.

It's best just to knock on labworm's door with that 6 pack. I suggest you bring some chips and dip, ear plugs and Tums as I'm sure there will be a nauseating amount of Crybrady talk.

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In February 1969 we were enjoying winter maneuvers guarding an ice bridge over the Tanana River living in Arctic tents. The temps got down around -50F. The tents were heated with a Yukon stove in the middle of the tent. There was a zone between the wall of the tent and the stove that would cool the beer to just the right temp. If you got the beer too close to the wall of the tent it would freeze and then you would have a beer icee.

An Australian acquaintance told me that most Aussies consider Foster's Lager one short step above wombat urine, fit only to sell to Yanks. He added that in those days, some years ago, Americans were known as "the toxics" in Oz. Of course, he was a grumpy drunk, so I can't vouch for either allegation.

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Oh well, what the hell.

An igloo can get as warm as the mid 60's on body temp alone.

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The big cholla gave it the most scientific run, but in either case the beer temp the next morning would be 98.6 degrees waiting to get out.

Free beer is good beer.

Only if they are next to pretzels !!

My Aussie counterparts said the same about Foster's; Victoria Bitter and XXXX were undeniably better. The Aussies also had some pretty good grilling going on (no shrimp, 'tho.)

Oh yeah, the beer thing. Snow banks make good coolers, but it's hard to keep the lid secured.

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I can't drink anymore. I hate these threads. Perrier anyone?

When I went to Australia and New Zealand, I was determined to try all those great beers. The fourth one that I tried at draft was 'Fosters'. I told my wife that I didn't need to try any more, that was the ONE. I later was told the same story about most Aussies don't/won't drink Fosters. I told the person telling me that I didn't care who wouldn't drink Fosters. As far as I was concerned, it was the 'best' beer to suit my tastes I had ever tried. I was thrilled a couple of years later when they started importing Fosters to the US. I tried it and immediately figured out this Fosters wasn't brewed in Australia. It Wasn't! It was brewed in Canada and later in the US. It is still fairly good, but IMHO not near as good as real Fosters.

I know for a fact that some New Zealanders will drink Fosters on Tap because my wife and I were walking around the sea port in Christ Church, NZ and stopped into a smart looking pub for an afternoon beer. I tried the Fosters on Tap and was delighted. I spent a goodly amount of time looking at the historical photographs of sailing schooners that had been used to supply NZ and its Southern Pacific Island group. There were five 'gentlemen' sitting a a large table. They were obviously sailors of the nth degree. One ask me if I sailed. I told him the biggest sailboat I had ever sailed was a 25 ft. Thunderbird class single mast. All of them got into the discussion and my wife and I moved to their table. I promptly bought the table a couple of large pitchers of Fosters and we had a great afternoon. It took me about an hour before I could understand 'most' of what was said in their South Island accents. Two more pitchers of Fosters went dry and my wife and I had to be helped out to a cab. Turns out 'beer' in NZ/Aust. has from 8 to 10 % alcohol compared to our 4 to 5 %. I still miss that real Australian Fosters Draft. .............. Big Cholla

Never tried the Aussie beers but I sure did love all that stuff they made in Germany.

But I like to hear about good times and back in the day it seemed great. I made a conscious decision to quit but I'm not sure if I quit alcohol or alcohol quit me. Anyway, I was fine then and I'm fine now.

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Gets even warmer when you are with your Eskimo woman.

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I remember St. Paulis Girl being bitter and I didn't like it but the Holland Heineken is sour and I love it. Go figure???

PS: Fosters is right up there with Schaeffer's but Fosters costs more.

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Snow banks, igloos, ambient air temperatures. All side issues that distract us from the important stuff.

They still sell beer in six-packs? I discovered cases years ago. Much less likely to run out of beer at the house and have to go back to the store again and again.

Think about it for a moment: 24 beers in a case, 24 hours in a day, can this be a coincidence? I think not! I view this as a sign.

As Benjamin Franklin reportedly commented, "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy".

I'll keep an eye out for you Pal.

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good way to get 5' of snow removed.. just tell the drunk next door there is a 12 pack buried in the snow bank. better than a snow thrower..