A major northwestern city has approved a plan (eff. Jan.2016) to add a $25 tax on all individual firearm purchases and another tax on each round of ammo.The ammo tax is .02¢ for 22lr and .05¢ for all others.These taxes are in addition to any regular sales tax in the city.

The goal is to decrease gun violence in the city by making it cost prohibitive for criminals to buy firearms and ammo.Yeah,You read that right! I almost choked on a mouthful of coffee when I read that.

I think I remember reading that for Seattle.

I, in no way, subscribe to tin foil, bug-out, bomb shelter, "Off " brand un-dead repellant, freeze dried Twinkies or heat-seeking bullets but it's bureaucratic silliness like this that makes me grab a few extra boxes of ammo each month.

Just sayin'.

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Sounds like a good time to open a firearms business in nearby Bremerton.

Once again LAW ABIDING firearms owners are the target.

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They are following the example of Chicago, where anyone can see that extra taxation on guns and ammunition items bought by law-abiding citizens has dramatically reduced the number of gun-related crimes.

When I tell people that you can't make something completely idiot-proof because there's always a bigger idiot, I'm talking about the Seattle City Council.

Criminals buy guns n ammo? I thought they steal 'em.

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Don't know this for sure, but I'd bet money, that most of those idiots arrived in Seattle during the great California invasion of a few years back.
They made a mess of California then moved north. Having forgotten the mess they left down south they decided to make Seattle a better place to live. Where in the Hell are they going to move to when they turn Seattle into San Francisco?

The advance of the hoplophobes continues. Exercise your right to buy early, often and in volume.

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They will move to the next place they believe needs saved and they will form "support groups" which complain about how the old timers don't like them.

Probably Idaho.

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Time to crank the old reloading press up again. When I first read this thread I thought it was tongue in cheek until I realized it was for real, that's scarry. You really can't make this stuff up.

Brilliant! That should work. What could possibly go wrong with that kind of keen logic

I think a lot of this thinking came from the passage of I-594. In this state we have a 0.09/1.00 sales tax. When I-594 was passed it created a great deal of revenue for the state because every gun purchased had to be done through an FFL. Every FFL by state law has to collect sales tax, even on a private sale. Seattle saw this and realized that they could do the same thing on ammo. The new law will do one of two things, either put gun stores out of business or generate more revenue if they try to stay in business. I'm waiting for them to put a tax on owning a car in Seattle so bicyclists will have the streets to themselves.

It's a very progressive California city.

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Just a way for the anti gunners to stick it to the pro gunners. Collecting more taxes is just a side benefit. They always want more to spend. It seems like it does not matter how much they collect they will always spend more. No new anti gun law will be enough, the goal is to get rid of all guns from the good people.

NV and AZ are the big winners. When I was in AZ last year I saw a lot of CA license plates. NV is getting hit even harder.

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Fortunately, other than in a few urban areas (Austin?), supporting such an ordinance in this state would be a sure way to never hold office again.

They haven't "forgotten." To them it's not a mess.

Where now? They are making serious inroads into Texas. Last time I looked it was on Bloomberg's list of easy pickin's states...

They tried the bullet tax in Kalifornistan a few years ago. The law got tossed because of language. They'll be back.

"After a new law went into effect in January, more than half of all new driver’s licenses issued in California this year have gone to people who are in the country illegally, the state said Friday." - Janie Harr, Associated Press, in the San Jose Mercury News.

There is a theory, reasonable in my opinion, that the above fact will affect voting, at least in California. So, I cannot answer Maddog 521's question about how and why these people get elected but a reasonable theory suggests they will easily continue to remain in office.

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Tax the free exercise of 2nd Amendment rights.

So poll taxes are okay, then (taxing the free exercise of 1st Amendment rights).

They want it both ways.

It's Seattle. What do you expect?

They do this BECAUSE they want to be re-elected. If the majority of your voters believe that guns are the cause of the violence, and in Seattle they apparently do, this makes perfect sense, and there is nothing stupid about it. Either people buy less ammo and guns, or you rake in more money for "violence prevention programs" or whatever.

And even if it gets tossed by the courts, and I think there is a decent chance since nation-wide, local "gun control through the back door" hasn't stood up too well to judicial scrutiny, you still score brownie points with your voters for "fighting the good fight". That's how local politics works.

The point is to make a point.

And let's be honest, we haven't been totally innocent in this department either. Silly stunts like those city ordinances requiring every household to have a gun fall into exactly the same category.

We? Got a mouse in your pocket?

City ordinances requiring every household to have a gun fall into exactly the purpose of the 2nd Amendment. We are the militia, and a lot of people don't like that.

Like Rusty, if I see a great deal, I am buying. I'll figure out where to store when it gets here!

Umm, yes, I can see them mustering on the village commons, their .38 snubbies at shoulder arms...

Thanks for illustrating my original point. It's all just about playing to the right audience.

Read Federalist 28 and 29, then try to make an intelligent comment.

Tennessee has a 10 penny tax per box of ammo. It's supposed to go towards funding Wildlife Resources Agency.

We still have crime, so I guess Tennessee criminals must be buying their ammo online and avoiding the tax. Go figure... always a "loophole" for them criminals!

Is it safe to assume that most on here do not know about The Pittman-Robertson Act, it put an 11% excise tax on guns ammo and bows arrows? It started in if I remember right 1937, and it was SUPPOSED to be used for things beneficial to the people that pay the tax. Monies were supposed to be divided up between the states by a formula that is overseen by the BATF!

Most sportsman that I know of do not object to this if fact most supported it wholeheartedly.

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Tax those you can collect from. Official .gov policy. As for "official lunacy" regarding guns, they haven't figured out the concept of "block guns." In every hood there are guns stashed in readily available locations, everybody knows where they are. Use it and put it back, probably the main reason why the cops shoot so many "unarmed" folks on the verge of "turning their lives around." Joe

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I agree here! Except for the tin foil part. I have some tin foil on my ceiling above my bed and I think it has been working.

I feel safer already

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I posted this on a few other forums. Might as well post it here also. The AG of WA made this determination in 2008. It will still stand in court. The SAF will sue the City of Seattle again for playing fast and loose with state statute. There is no doubt in my mind how this will end. The block heads on the city council do it for votes.

RCW 9.41 sets forth a comprehensive scheme of state firearms regulations. This statutory scheme includes preemption. RCW 9.41.290 provides: The state of Washington hereby fully occupies and preempts the entire field of firearms regulation within the boundaries of the state, including the registration, licensing, possession, purchase, sale, acquisition, transfer, discharge, and transportation of firearms, or any other element relating to firearms or parts thereof, including ammunition and reloader components. Cities, towns, and counties or other municipalities may enact only those laws and ordinances relating to firearms that are specifically authorized by state law, as in RCW 9.41.300, and are consistent with this chapter. Such local ordinances shall have the same penalty as provided for by state law. Local laws and ordinances that are inconsistent with, more restrictive than, or exceed the requirements of state law shall not be enacted and are preempted and repealed, regardless of the nature of the code, charter, or home rule status of such city, town, county, or municipality. RCW 9.41.290 preempts the authority of cities to adopt laws regulating firearms. The question is whether the scope of this preemption extends to prohibiting cities from enacting local law that prohibits possession of firearms on city property or in city-owned facilities. -

See more at: Authority of city to enact a local law prohibiting possession of firearms on city property or in city-owned facilities | Washington State

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Too bad; once a great city like SF

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that reminds me I need to get more powder and lead.

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Criminals probably use Gunbot like the rest of us.