The manual says to use gun oil and i like plain gun oil. Not Frog Lube or any other 'special' lubes or 'cleaner/lubes'. I've been using Outer's for 35 years, but my plastic bottle got brittle and broke. I managed to save some but now I'm in the market for some gun oil. Hoppe's Elite gun oil is half the price of Outer's and you get twice as much. I like Hoppe's products but this particular oil is said to have liquid TFE and liquid molybdenum sulfide.

I've heard weird things about moly. That it attracts water and causes corrosion unless it has some inhibitor in it. Also that it is very hard to get off once it gets onto the metal. And last but not least, is that it changes shooting characteristics because of it's greater lubricity. (This is counter intuitive to me, even though I've seen good explanations I can't gather why a bullet that starts out faster would end up going slower).

Anyway, it gave me pause about buying it. I can't imagine Hoppe's not providing a superior product, but this stuff about the moly and TFE made alarm bells go off.

I clean and oil my guns regularly. I don't want something that gets gummy or varnishes up. I want something that stays in place that is not a grease or water displacer (like WD 40) and that provides good corrosion resistance.

I probably should just pay more for half as much Outer's since I have confidence in it but inquiring minds want to know.

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I am still using sperm Whale oil. Got it from Russia about 1970. Only have about 8 oz left though. I had a British double at the time and it was the recommended oil. Didn't need much. I used it on my Krieghoff's for years..... Decades!!

My take on your question... go with what you have been happy with

rwsmith, you might like this: http://smith-wessonforum.com/137785542-post48.html

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We gun owners are a lot like golfers. With them, it's anything that'll improve their score. With us, it's cleaners and lube. Whenever the latest and greatest hit the shelf we burn rubber to get some. I know I have enough products of various labels to last as long as I've got left to live. That said, I invariably return to Rem Oil. It's always worked for me.

I have used Rem Oil I get at Wally world for years. I have no complaints with it.

Some guy did tests on all the popular gun oils a few years ago. He covered pieces of metal.....something like 40 different pieces, each with one product......and let it sit outside. As they sat out in the elements he took pictures and you can clearly see that some are way better than others. We arnt talking one had a speck of rust and the other didn't. We're talking complete rust. I'll see if I can find it again assuming no one took it down. However, I don't put that much thought into it. I have CLP and I have Hopes. Not for any other reason than it was within arms reach when I went to buy it. I have been using CLP since I got into shooting. I bought a rifle in 1998 and the salesman threw in a cleaning kit which had CLP. I have used it to clean after shooting hundreds of rounds of corrosive ammo with good results. Anyway my daily carry is a old gen 3 Glock 19. Made around 2003. I don't know what kind of finish is on it (original) but I wear it everyday iwb. Winter, summer, sweat, rain, sunshine, snow, humidity. ....after 7 years of daily carry still no rust, not even a speck. Not even so much as finish wear. I don't oil it often so whatever finish Glock used back then they got it right.

And just now after reading the other thread about cleaning I decided to check mine just in case. Blew out all the dust bunnies.....we have a new car at work, it has 29 miles on it! Opened the hood, took the oil dipstick out and ran it over the rails and inside of the slide. Few dabs with a paper towel to soak up the extra oil and ran the slide a few dozen times. Done!

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Found it!!

Quick Cliff notes. Over 40 products out of which 30 something are dedicated to guns. 2 boards with exposed metal squares are covered with oil.....one of each product. One board sprayed with salt water and the other with regular water and let sit outside for just under a month. The 3 that did an excellent job were WD40 specialist, Frog Lube, Hornady One Shot

Comprehensive Corrosion Test: 46 Products Compared : Day At The Range

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I used to use Remoil but a friend said that Birchwood Casey's gun oil was better and I think he is right, in one very brief try at something else I tried some grease by a very well known high end 1911 gunsmith. it was about 25 degrees out when i tried it at the range in my Kimber 1911 sst compact. I might has been using peanut butter as it would barely cycle with that grease at that temperature. went back home and cleaned it up using the Birchwood Casey's gun oil and haven't looked back.

The fellows name is Ron Kulas..He has a site called Ron's Blog or something like that. He is one of the handiest people I have ever seen. As far as the oil and dipstick...back before I learned better I had a Browning Auto 5. When it got a little dry that is what I did..raise the hood pull the dipstick and voila...it would work again. I also use quite a bit of Rem oil for lubrication. Especially on 1100s. The volatile liquid evaporates leaving the high tech product behind. 1100s do not work well when wet down with oil or products like WD 40. Even the Rem oil needs to evaporate before using the gun much. I got my RO from a Remington Rep at the shot show booth when I worked it. They gave it away by the boat load at one time. I have a "few" 1100/11-87s and know how to make 'em run. That is what I shot serious skeet with for 20 yrs...WD-40 leaves too much residue

Breakfree CLP is not overpriced like some other "gun oils" and is the
best oil I have ever used on my guns. I did my own tests of corrosion
resistance of various oils several years ago and have stuck with CLP
ever since and never looked back.

I like "3-in-One" oil.

Like Hoppe's #9 3 in 1 oil has a distinctive smell also. I use it for almost everything...not so much on guns though. At one time I used and trusted the original Browning Gun Oil.

Rem Oil is what I have used for years now.
For cleaning barrels, I have so many types and I don't no why....

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Nothing wrong with Hoppes oil - I still have a giant bottle of the stuff and still use it occasionally. I also use it on sharpening stones as a lube and cleaner and use it on precision measuring instruments and around the house.

For guns I am a huge Rig #2 Oil fan and use it 95% of the time for cleaning, lube and as a rust inhibitor for frequently fired guns. It is an all-in-one that really works quite well and won't harm plastic, wood, polymer, rubber, etc. I rarely like all-in ones but this product is an exception and I have been using it for around 35 years now.

I recently discovered Birchwood Casey Synthetic Gun Oil which is a better lubricant than the Rig #2 but was really designed for lubrication and so I don't rely on it for rust prevention. Since it's a thicker oil it is not really suitable as a cleaning solvent. That said, - it is excellent at lubrication and reducing friction and works well for 1911 or any semi-automatic slides.

If you shoot and lube your firearms often, there is nothing at all wrong with using the Hoppes standard gun oil. Almost any of the products that have been around for any length of time will work just fine for everyday use.

Long term Storage - Rig Universal Grease inside and out.

Sperm oil and bear's grease... some of the best black powder lubes ever!

i have a zillion cleaners, from hoppes to kroil.
also got automatic transmission fluid.
i can't tell the difference.

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Now that's NOT one I expected.

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Weaponshield - Grease and oil applications.

The info provided so far is a big help.

PS: No sprays for me. I put a drop of oil or less on my rails and a few other spots or on the yoke and both ends of the extractor. I like the Outer's bottle because it had a little pointy snout that would put the oil right where you want it. Since my bottle broke I use a q-tip. No big deal, but I like to put a little oil on my gun and take it shooting.


PPS: I just XXd Hoppe's 'Elite' off of my list. Show's you that a fancy name doesn't mean anything.

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M Pro 7 makes a good gun oil, as well as a great cleaner. While a long time user of Hoppe's and RemOil, I have to say M Pro 7 products are quite a bit superior.

I like "plain old oil".... 30W....and a qt. lasts a long time!

mb

It was good enough for Grandmas Singer and Grandpas LC Smith. It has always worked for me. Larry

Now that is a statement that kinda brings back memories. After working on a lot of shotguns for most of the formative years, I learned about the oldtimers use of oils. Especially on the old doubles like the LC. Those old boys believed if a little was good, a lot was better. And with the older oils that surely wasn't so. The LC Smith was a nice shotgun but it's stock was somewhat fragile. An oil soaked stock was the bane of the Smith(LC). Browning A 5s would have a quart of Pennzoil dumped on 'em and set on the butt on the back porch for it to drain. Setting 'em on the bbl end woulda been better. Auto 5s always had loose stocks. Kinda the same with Rem 11s. I learned early on from one of the crotchetiest (and cussingest)gunsmiths that oils of the 20s,30s 40s and 50s were not used well on guns. Oil soaked wood and oil filled receivers kept the ol gunsmiths in work. And 3-in-one was one of the worst offenders. Not because it was a bad oil...but because it was one of the most used, abused and available oils. When it came to cleaning guns as Pogo said... we have met the enemy and he is us!

I used to hang out in the NRA Museum while waiting for the traffic to die down, after shooting at the NRA headquarters range first thing in the morning.

One of the curators mentioned once that they had encountered some very old and expensive firearms donated in pristine condition that had been lubricated with sperm oil - some of them probably no more recently then the late 1800s or early 1900s. His impression was that it was superb stuff when it came to long term rust prevention.

I'm not an oil snob.

I've used:

Mil-spec CLP - inexpensive and works great but smells worse than the commercial stuff.

Comercial CLP

Rem Oil

Hopes Gun Oil

I don't have any complaints about how well any of them work.

Automatic transmission fluid is a excellent gun lubricant.

The post test:

Comprehensive Corrosion Test: 46 Products Compared : Day At The Range

Is one of the better or best on the net, done by a regular person.

Take a look at WD 40 Specialist. Cheap and stops rust. Yes,
it is a spray so just spray a bunch in a small drip bottle.

Any of the products will work if applied often enough. Most have TFE (Teflon) You can buy a spray can of straight Teflon lube. I use it on trigger groups

One that was not tested is Eezox which is one of the best. Midway used to sell it but no longer.

It has TCE (solvent) and synthetic oil.

Eezox® Gun Care - Eezox Premium Synthetic Lubricants

Just a FYI. Frog Lube is Coconut Oil!

If you want just plain oil then Mobile Synthetic in a light grade or as mention Tranny fluid but that smells.

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I don't like Outer's or Hoppe's liquids of any sort.

I use Shooter's Choice exclusively to clean my guns, and ClenzOil to lube and protect them. Never had any problems.

Have you ever seen a rusty whale???

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What did you not like about the Hoppe's/Outers product??

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Any "Old Timers" remember "Fiend Oil" from the 1950s " came in an yellow and red can with a picture of Satan on it.

1. They didn't do as good a job as cleaners, lubes, or preservatives as the products I noted.
2. They almost invariably leaked all over everything, especially in the cheap kits in which they were included.

From the 50's into the 90's we cleaned with WD40 and lubed with 3 in 1 oil......Our old Winchesters/Brownings/Smiths & Colts that lived on it still work well today
.....BTW.....In the old-old Browning manuals they recommended a diesel fuel soak for cleaning their pistols......

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I've tried a lot of different general gun cleaning solutions over the years. I've found they do about the same-- over promise and under deliver. I use Hoppe's No. 9 cuz it's cheap.

Lubricants is another matter. For autoloaders getting a workout I use Wilson Combat lubricants. Stays where I put it and reduces friction to the point where I can feel the difference when racking the slide or charge handle.

I have a 9x16" capacity metal cutting saw,,, 2 horsepower.

I switched from new regular oil in the gearbox to synthetic.
The temp of the gearbox went from too hot to touch, to barely warm,,,
doing the same kind of cutting.

I am sold on the benefit of synthetic!!

Wayyy back when I had a Datsun pickup..4x4. Sucker got TERRIBLE mileage..I mean miserable mileage. Otherwise a very reliable truck. I got a case of the A** one day and changed the oil to Amsoil Synthetic. I had to slow idle speed almost 500 RPM. Gained 4 MPG..then I said wow..put synthetic transmission and rear oils. Gained an extra 3 mpg. I too am a believer in Synthetic oils. Many companies use them these days

I use Remoil, sewing machine oil or something my gunsmith gives me he calls 'Sliker Than Whale Shxt.

I've also used Sperm Whale Oil. Hard to replace.

Doesn't seem to make a difference.

So I use what's handy.