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Old 03-30-2017, 01:26 PM
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How many of you have sold something on this or another forum and never heard anything back? How hard is it to send a "I got it. Looks good!" (or otherwise). I stopped checking the tracking numbers to see if it had been delivered.

Also, would be nice to see if the buyer was in agreement with my evaluation of condition, etc (How else will I learn?)

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Old 03-30-2017, 01:58 PM
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Don't care. I assume if there are no complaints the item was received. Otherwise the deal is done.

Again, don't care and assume if condition was bad there would be complaints.

Or....In other words.....No news is good news

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While I haven't done any here, on other forums I've had giveaways or straight up gifted items, and didn't even get "It got here okay" on maybe a third.

On transactions, I'd say it'd only really matter if there was a feedback system, because then it directly relates to your reputation and ability to sell in the future.

Between forums, GB, and fleabay, my experience is that buyers don't give feedback ~25% of the time. One that kinda cheesed me was on a fairly high-dollar item (for me, anyway, >$2,000), where I went to great lengths to accommodate the buyer, over a period of weeks. I ended up incurring about $100 additional costs, and he didn't bother to leave any feedback, even after I gave him a top rating.
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reminds me of the "over attentive" waitress who every 2 minutes comes over and says "you guys still ok"....... while you are trying to enjoy your meal or have a serious conversation or otherwise just enjoying yourselves and the evening. ...well yes we are or you would be the first to know young lady.....So if my hand is not raised, or if I am not making eye contact with you or otherwise trying to gain your attention everything is just fine.............
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OK=Sounds like I'm just being too sensitive. On the other hand, it will save me from writing those "Thank you" notes.
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I sold for things on the Forum and have gotten no reply from all four guys that things were okay. it's kind of nice to get that so you know that somebody's not disappointed but on the other hand why do you care if they don't complain oh well
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How many of you have sold something on this or another forum and never heard anything back? How hard is it to send a "I got it. Looks good!" (or otherwise).
We're in agreement on this. I've sold stuff to people, including members of this forum, who seem to have lost the ability to communicate, or they never had it to begin with.

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OK=Sounds like I'm just being too sensitive.
Actually, you are not. There's this thing called "etiquette". Or "good manners". But I guess I'm from an older generation and was brought up to be polite. Sometimes I fail, but I do try. Even in a business transaction, politeness and a simple "thank you" go a long way, and could possibly generate future business.

Then again, I also remember when a man wouldn't even think about wearing a stupid looking ball cap in a restaurant or at the dinner table.

I don't care who you are, if you want to sit down at my table, you take that damn cap off and you put that cell phone away. Unless maybe you're just not hungry or something.
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It's always nice to get a note of "I'm pleased" or "thanks for a good transaction", but I don't expect everyone to thank me for selling them something, so if they don't send a message I just move on and assume they are satisfied.
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Well I have bought in neighborhood of 20 guns and many small
items. I have also sold a few. On the S&W forum there seems
to be a better class of people than the few others I frequent. I
have no complaints at all. Guys Pm when they receive payment
or goods and visa versa. Never got a item that was less than
condition posted, most of the time a tad better. The Marlin Forum
is this way too. My main irk on any of them are window shoppers
who have you jumping though hoops and then don't reply one
way or the other. I pretty well know who they are now and don't
waste my time responding to them.
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As others have said, on the one hand, if they're not complaining, they're apparently happy, but on the other hand, a quick acknowledgment by e-mail costs nothing, is polite and confirms to both parties that the transaction is concluded. I do it on everything I buy long-distance; just sent one this morning on a Tyler I bought on GB. Just a quick "Item received, feedback posted, thank you". There is simply no excuse not to.
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We're in agreement on this. I've sold stuff to people, including members of this forum, who seem to have lost the ability to communicate, or they never had it to begin with.



Actually, you are not. There's this thing called "etiquette". Or "good manners". But I guess I'm from an older generation and was brought up to be polite. Sometimes I fail, but I do try. Even in a business transaction, politeness and a simple "thank you" go a long way, and could possibly generate future business.

Then again, I also remember when a man wouldn't even think about wearing a stupid looking ball cap in a restaurant or at the dinner table.

I don't care who you are, if you want to sit down at my table, you take that damn cap off and you put that cell phone away. Unless maybe you're just not hungry or something.
I agree. I am on the younger side but manners have always been very important to me. I say thank you and goodbye to a cashier at the store then I will say it to everyone else I do business with.
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Not responding to receiving an item kind of leaves the seller hanging.

While the transaction is happening emails or pms are being saved,

Likely pictures on a host site also.

Seller is also hoping the mail worked correctly; (which i no longer assume)

Most of the time the seller really wants the guy to be happy with what he bought.

Takes two minutes to say all is great so the guy can move on.
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Unfortunately, this seems to happen more and more frequently. But when it happens to me, I just figure it's the mark of the man and consider the source.
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I always acknowledge receipt of an item, and I have had nearly 100% acknowledgement back to me when they received an item. I'm not complaining. Now with a retail store, that's different.
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I'm guilty of not always responding..but no news is good news,and sometimes,I'm still evaluating.
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I always put tracking on anything I ship so I can be sure it was delivered,After that I don't really care.
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I always ship with a tracking number, and I send a PM after the item is delivered stating that I trust the purchaser is satisfied and thanking them for a smooth transaction. Sometimes they respond, sometimes they don't. Never had a bad exchange via this forum . . .
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Laziness and lack of good manners it is.

If I take the time to let someone know the package is on it's way, the least they could do is let me know they got it.

If the package is lost or damaged I want to know right away instead of a month later.
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We're in agreement on this. I've sold stuff to people, including members of this forum, who seem to have lost the ability to communicate, or they never had it to begin with.



Actually, you are not. There's this thing called "etiquette". Or "good manners". But I guess I'm from an older generation and was brought up to be polite. Sometimes I fail, but I do try. Even in a business transaction, politeness and a simple "thank you" go a long way, and could possibly generate future business.

Then again, I also remember when a man wouldn't even think about wearing a stupid looking ball cap in a restaurant or at the dinner table.

I don't care who you are, if you want to sit down at my table, you take that damn cap off and you put that cell phone away. Unless maybe you're just not hungry or something.
Well, I will admit to being "old". So, I guess it's my fault?
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Over a year ago I sold a nice rifle on Gun Broker to a guy in CA. After he got it I asked for feedback. He replied that he will let me know after he shoots it. Guess he hasn't had a chance to shoot it yet.
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My girlfriend is British and compared to her my American manners have devolved to a point where they are often brutish. The formality of a thank you note written on a card is never overlooked. It takes even less effort to send an email or IM but I somehow think it doesn't quite carry the same impact as taking the time to lick a stamp and walk to the mailbox.
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The only one that really bothered me was I gave away something on a Karma post, with the condition the winner read it and pass it on. Not only was it not acknowledged, I don't remember sever seeing him pass it on. Oh well, you know what they say about Karma.
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Not trying to go against the grain-but maybe they just forgot. Happened to me all the time when I used to sell on flea bay. Many transactions went un-whatevertheheckthecallit? so I didnt build as big of a good rep-like I should have. Ive forgot a few times too-thanks to being too busy.

I agree though--manners-lack there of--abounds these days. I used to get a bit bothered but-always had something else to worry about that was much worse.
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It's called common courtesy. It is lacking in many ares these days.
I don't want to be one of them.

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I do keep my responses up to date, but I try not to allow an apparent non-response to affect me. There can always be technical reasons for a breakdown in communication.

Quite a few years ago, I mailed something to a member here after some back-and-forth via PM, and never heard further. A few years later, I happened to do a Google search on my handle, and right on the top popped up a full post thanking me publicly for the item. I guess this was before we got a view of new posts overall, and had only sub-forums to look at. Anyway, while I sort of expected a PM in acknowledgement of receipt, there it was out in front of God and everybody.
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Sadly, common courtesy, like common sense, appears to be dead. I try to remember to reply to the seller or provider whenever I can. What irks me is a recent purchase on GB. I managed to get a vintage Browning A5 for a great price. I sent confirmation notes of receipt and satisfaction after receiving the shotgun, and I even sent two notes asking why feedback has not been given. I have heard nothing. I am about 7 weeks post sale, and on the verge of modifying my feedback on him to reflect that the seller is slow to provide feedback. On both GB and eBay, feedback means a lot to people that you may be doing business with!
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Well, I will admit to being "old". So, I guess it's my fault?
No, not your fault at all.

You know, we do what we can do to sort of make things go smoothly, but when you get right down to it, if the other party doesn't reciprocate, there's nothing to be done about it. Except gripe, I guess.
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