.38/44 in Colt Official Police?

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A recent thread on The Untouchables prompted me to buy the 1959-60s Robert Stack series.

In it the federal agents all seem to have Official Police .38s. I believe I saw one .38/44 in the hands of character actor Roy Gordon.

So I got to wondering, does anyone know if the .38/44 which was meant for the N frame S&W could or was used at least on a limited basis in the Official Police?

I ask this since the OP is the "father" of the eventual Python and other Colt .357s. The 1930s metallurgy might have made this a dubious practice even if the cylinder walls were
greater than the typical .38 Smith K-frame, hence Smith's move
to suggest use only in the N frame.

I've read the 1930 .38/44 had a muzzle velocity of 1,125 feet a second from a 5-inch barrel.
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Back in the day, OP was advertised as being suitable for .38-44 ( as were SAA ). Interpet that as meaning .38-44 factory loads, and not Keith style .38-44 handloads.
 
Bigfoot,

Thanks for the reply. And that would put the OP, I would think,
ahead in popularity to the N frame Smiths because of the Colt's
handier size.

Although I own a few Model 27s and a .38/44 Smith, I've always found them to be just a little bit more than I like for my mid sized hands.

And now I can see Smith's thinking, I think :D, in marketing the
.357 as a hunting round among other uses in 1935 when the .38/44 cartridge was probably fairly popular among some LEOs.
 
The factory .38-44 cartridge could have been used in any .38 Special revolver, and indeed was used in them. There were no warnings advising that .38-44 cartridges must be used only in heavy frame revolvers. It may not have been good for gun longevity, but it wasn't considered a hazardous practice.
 
The OP is a slightly larger frame than the K frame. It is plenty strong enough for limited use of +P+ pressures. IIRC the frame was large enough for the .41 short, and cylinder long enough for the .32 WCF.
 
While Keith used 13.5gr 2400 under his 173gr swc in the N-frames, he only advised 12gr in the Colt Officers Model frames. This from "SIXGUNS", if my memory doesn't fail me.
 
The OP is a slightly larger frame than the K frame. It is plenty strong enough for limited use of +P+ pressures. IIRC the frame was large enough for the .41 short, and cylinder long enough for the .32 WCF.

Not the .41 Short, but the .41 Long. The OP E-frame is often called the .41 Size, a little beefier than the S&W K-frame. The same frame size was used for many Colt revolvers, including the Python .357 (with the Python, it is called the I-frame as it has the firing pin in the frame, not on the hammer).
 
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